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07-19-2003, 02:58 AM
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#176 (permalink)
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Location: Cincinnati... ok N. Ky... Join Date: Nov 2002
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I question the whispering veil. Do you think that there are lost souls is there for everyone that has fallen? Questions qestions.... always quizical. | 
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07-19-2003, 03:25 AM
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WoW! So many of you all cried...it was sad when he died...but I didn't even realize he had died until the chapter ended....all the way throughout the book it was like everyone was coming close to death..Mr. Waesley, Hagrid, McGonagall, Ron, Hermione....and then came Sirius who I didn't even think had died when he died.....in all of the confusion I guess I just did't have time to build up tears...if he had like whispered the last few words of a dying man to Harry then I may have been a little more sad...... | |
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07-19-2003, 03:27 AM
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#178 (permalink)
| | Jarvey
Location: Somewhere riding coasters :D Join Date: Jun 2003
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Quote: | I guess the only good thing about him dying is that he is back with James, and he no longer has to live with the fact that he could have prevented their deaths. | I agree w/ DogStar. Maybe she did this so people think he doesn't have the regrets. But still, I really had hoped he could have been of more help to Harry. That's the question isn't it? Why? | |
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07-19-2003, 04:29 AM
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#179 (permalink)
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Location: Utah, USA Join Date: Jul 2003
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I have to hink that Sirius is definately dead, but that said I agree that he will show up in the future, in some way thanks to the veil. It had to be significant, or JK would have found a different way to kill Sirius off. | |
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07-19-2003, 05:22 AM
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#181 (permalink)
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Location: on the battle fields of Helm's Deep helping out a fellow elf Join Date: Jul 2003
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what i dont get is why rowling mentioned him in all but three books and then just kills him after telling us how much he ment to harry and their relationship, and everyone believing his innocence and stuff like that...i too believe that he will show up again in the future books and that the veil has a part to play also...among with the mirror.... | |
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07-19-2003, 05:28 AM
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#182 (permalink)
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Location: Massachusetts Join Date: Jul 2003
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Just a question about your theory.....
If Sirius was really still alive, why then did J.K. say that she was hysterically crying after she wrote that part if he were just to come back in a later book....and why did she say that since she was an author that she had to be a ruthless killer? | |
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07-19-2003, 08:24 AM
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Location: NSW, Australia Join Date: Jun 2003
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Quote: Originally posted by LuvyLuna@Jul 19 2003, 01:32 PM
.....in all of the confusion I guess I just did't have time to build up tears... | Yeah, same here. I was too confused to feel sad. I did feel a bit sad at the end though. | |
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07-19-2003, 01:40 PM
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Location: Oxford, UK Join Date: Jun 2003
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Sirius dies for two reasons. For JK, it is because she wants to illustrate how suddenly and tragic death can be. In the book he is targetted because he is loved and loves Harry - Dumbledore surmises as much as the end.
Also, if he isnt really dead, then death loses a lot of meaning- what's the big deal if you can come back or don't really die anyway? | |
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07-19-2003, 03:58 PM
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no! u r wrong. bellatrix or whatever her name is was talking aout sirius but then when she said the thingy about " he is below" she was talking about dumbledore! DUH! | |
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07-19-2003, 08:37 PM
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:crysmile: :crysmile: :brokenheart: :brokenheart: :brokenheart: :brokenheart: WHY did Sirius have to die! i loved him soo much! why oh why! :crysmile: :crysmile: :crysmile: :crysmile: :crysmile: :crysmile: :crysmile: :crysmile: :crysmile: :crysmile: :brokenheart: | |
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07-19-2003, 11:03 PM
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Location: Pennsylvania Join Date: Nov 2002
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Yeah, I know . . . I was depressed for like three days afterwards . . . it comes down hard on certain people and others not really . . .
It sucked especially because J.K. Rowling REALLY developed their relationship in this book . . . how he was always so disappointed when Harry would leave Grimmauld Place and how he was disappointed when Harry wouldn't do certain things . . . just really got their feelings going and then she . . . killed him off.  | |
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07-20-2003, 10:29 AM
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Location: the attic at the burrow Join Date: Apr 2003
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I KNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
actually it was realli weird cuz my sister came home on 20th june n was like its sirius- im like wat? shes like its sirius-he's gonna die. its on this website. im like running n checking- of course it didnt say anything. but then she was still convinced abt it-n i thought abt it. n the more i did- i was like umm yeah i could see how he could die. n then i was like so cut up abt it cuz i mean all the injustice he has had to suffer. i mean i didnt feel for harry 1st. jus paddy.... he's has had to put up with SO much n its like- after all dat he was jus as funny n jus as warm u kno?
n the next day my sis took my cuzin brother to the shop to get it n i was at home n then apparently my cuzin jus opened a page- 744. somewhere in there it says if harry.........sirius would not have died. so they told me n i read it..... n the rest as they say was horrible.
i want him to come back. but id rather not get into whether he will or not too much | |
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07-20-2003, 12:58 PM
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Location: Wisconsin,USA Join Date: May 2003
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I know it is sad. But don't u think his death was a bit sudden. Plus he died fighting and somewhere in one of the books it said 'someone' would die fighting......maybe I read that in a different book..... But he was having fun fighting Bellatrix etc.
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07-20-2003, 08:54 PM
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Quote: Originally posted by LaurenB13@Jul 20 2003, 08:05 AM
But he was having fun fighting Bellatrix etc.
*0*Lauren*0* | lol, i doubt he was having "fun" fighting her, but i know what you mean  | |
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07-21-2003, 09:24 PM
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my goodness people I was hearing talk of how harry and sirius would reunite through the time turner
yeah right... sry  no offense
in the fifth book when harry & friends are in the department of mysteries and they come across that black veil thing it tells you later that it is a connection to the dead and when haryy passed it he said he could hear murmmers so i think that you might be able to talk to people through there and hopefully sirius
R.I.P. sirius | |
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07-22-2003, 12:18 AM
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Location: Oxford, UK Join Date: Jun 2003
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When Harry passed the veil before the conflict, Ron was on the opposite side, right? What happens when somebody would walk through the other side of the veil? From the side that Sirius entered, one dies. But, perhaps, from the other side, it's more restorative.
That veil will be significant not just to communicate with the dead, but really to discuss and interpret death and dying. | |
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07-22-2003, 04:22 AM
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Location: ARR! Swash, swash buckle, buckle Join Date: Jun 2003
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im just wondering about two things.
1. if harry walked past the room of requirements 3 times and asked for a portriat of sirius, would he be able to talk to him?
2. when bellatrix said she was fighting the "animagius blac" then voldie answered then she said "but master, hes here hes below.." did she mean dumbledore or sirius?
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07-22-2003, 05:33 AM
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Location: Weasley's Wizard Wheezes Join Date: Jul 2003
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HAHA I WISH HAHA
DRACO RULES | |
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07-22-2003, 02:13 PM
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Location: Oxford, UK Join Date: Jun 2003
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When she said "he's below", she was referring to Dumbledore whom she briefly saw while running away. | |
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07-22-2003, 02:20 PM
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Location: Pinckney, MI USA Join Date: Mar 2003
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Actually i think she was referring to probably both, cuz Sirius FELL below thru the Veil and she saw Dumbledore bleow. I dunno. | |
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07-22-2003, 07:09 PM
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| | Hinkypunk
Location: Watching GoF Join Date: May 2003
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Yes! The TIme Turner! Why didn't I think of that?? lol.
Although I highly doubt JK will do that, I really wish she would! Having Sirius back would be awesome!
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07-22-2003, 07:54 PM
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Location: Internet Join Date: Mar 2003
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No I think she was referring to Dumbledore...... | |
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07-22-2003, 09:44 PM
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Location: Weasley's Wizard Wheezes Join Date: Jul 2003
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I Argee 2 ...nice
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