thank you.


that is no reason to kill sirius though....all us sirus lovers lived (well when readin the books) for his small apperances in the fires...in hogsmead...his letters to harry ,harrys letters to him.... i'd manage fine with that AND she ''easily'' could have cleared him..... i wish she would have killed off someone else. BUT i still believe that the ''reason'' for killing sirius will come to us at last.

Yes exactly! but I still have hopes that he's not actually dead

Love Sirius!!!!

I sorta found this on accident when I was looking over roleplay stuff:

The first thing that caught me was "Krupp has linked the Phoenix with both the Sun and Sirius" in the same sentance. I decided to read through and see what it was about and for some reason just couldn't pull myself away. And this just wouldn't leave me: "This leads Krupp to identify the Phoenix with Sirius."

It may not mean anything, but if nothing else, I really found it intersting.

How can we be sure that it was really Sirius that fell through the veil? Just bear with me... Remember the article in the Quibbler? And the Black family tree? What two things happened around the same time? For those of you that look like this- - Regulus was "killed" around the same time that Stubby Boardman (Sirius?) retired from public life. That is way too concidential for me. What if Regulus escaped the Death Eaters, or faked his own death? (never take a carachters word for ANYTHING!) It makes sense to me that he would have adopted Sirius' name as an alias, then he would have of course dropped it when Sirius was sent to Azkaban. And we were never told what Sirius' reaction to the article was, maybe he contacted this eyewitness and found his brother. But why would they switch places you ask, well Dumbledore did say that he feared that Voldy might try and lure him into a trap, and Dumbledore knows pretty much everything that goes on anyway, and if you use your common sense, the most obvious way to get Harry away from Hogwarts is using the person that he cares for most. It sounds kind of morbid, sacrificing one brother to save another, but maybe there is something important that Sirius has yet to do, something that only he can do. But there still is the ever present question of why... Well, was Harry the same person at the end of the book that he was at the begining? Do you think he learned a valueable lesson? You should. Do you think that he'll go charging into battle again without thinking or asking questions? I wouldn't bet on it (I doubt that Bagman would either )

Just Food For Thought
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Wow, you have some very interesting views. Hmm, Regulus, kind of makes me think.

Harry and Hermione saved sirius in the third book, hopefuly they will bring him back in the sixth book.

You got some good points Megan but i'm not sure, the reason i'm not entirely convinced with anyones theories about sirius is because of the way JKR reacted when she wrote the part about sirius' death. I think one of the reasons he was killed off was that it would kind of give a spin off in Harry's life again. He's lost just about anything he's ever had and i think that the person he will go to for help will be an unlikely example, i think he will tkae luna's words to heart too.

another idea. I think Harry may now become more reckless and no longer care about anything except what he feels. I tihnk from now on he will be one to put the "hero" act on often and that he may become so reckless he will endanger the oens around him

yep harry did throw it, and it shattered.. but heres another question.. How do we know theres only two mirrors?? wow this is the type of stuff that just bugs me!! i hate waiting 2 find all this out.. hehe :sorcerer:

Because JK said that Sirius is dead. However looking at GW's clue forum it is likely that Sirius may be 'trapped'. We all know the 13 dine, 1st to rise is 1st to die thing and we all know that 13 dines in Grimmauld place. However on re-reading it we notice that Ginny was infact the first to leave the table, not rise, ut she was suddenly on the floor with Crookshanks.
What if this means no one else can die until Ginny dies, meaning Sirius is still inside the veil, not dead or alive. When Ginny snuffs it then Sirius will die.

JK also said that you can't come back once you're "prpoerly dead" and we have no conformation that Sirius is in fact, "properly dead". My guess is that the veil is some kind of gateway to the wizarding afterlife, and there have been instances where people have survived the afterlife- like in the Oddessy, and of course we all know Hurcules passed through Hades. Another clue can be found in Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them, Merpeople- also know as Sirens, Selkies, and Merrows... and we all know what made Sirens most famous, don't we?

And from what I've heard, JK said that Sirius's death was difficult to write... Sirius was one of her favorite carachters... and that Siius had to die... Well, I imagine that it would be extermely difficult to write a death when you plan on bringing the person back, and it is logical to think that Sirius's death (permenant or not) will play an important role in future books since he HAD to die. But once again, this is nothing more than speculation and, proves that I have way too much time on my hands.

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im s sad to say,but i too doubt he will come back...JK said he is dead... and im a massive sirius fan...

re live him by reading book 1-5,as i do. hehe

anyways,

sirius is not just caught behind the veil,lupin and dumbledore all said he is gone.

i hate it , but jk found it so hard to write his dead...which it wouldnt have been if she was bringing him back somehow...

i bet there is a reason to why she wrote him out of the series... and we'lll know soon enough.

also, sirius was harrys closest living 'relative', and the series is about harry-having to struggle in life and becoming stronger and stronger, so of course sirius also had to die... it does make sense, when u think about what harry is all about.

Yep, and a while ago JK said that Sirius' death in particular was to draw on her experience with her mother's passing. One of the key effects was not just that Sirius had to die, but that it is random. There isn't necessarily some all-encompassing plot design in which Sirius sacrificed himself to protect Harry. Sirius was there one moment, and he was gone the next. That's one of the things that JK wanted to convey.

It'll be very interesting to see how JK picks up a few things from the end of OotP. First, what will become of Harry's preference for not being human if he has to feel such pain (as Sirius' death)? That seemed to lead much more toward a darker path.. perhaps similar to some kind of thought that Tom would have had. Also, what will become of Harry's loneliness at the end after he learns that he will either die at Tom's hand, or Tom will die at his?

in OotP, a lot of people were skeptical of Harry's story because, as Hermione said, Dumbledore told them just before holiday and then they went home to hear that their parents doubted it. Without his godfather, being at the Dursleys, and everything else... how is he going to react?

yes,

it is definitely also one more thing that makes voldemort and harry even more ''equal''. both are withouth parents, and no loving relatives.

they both will have to fight until the very end to survive,as it will be them two in the final fight.

JK is going somewhere with thw whole: voldemort and harry being more and more simular as the story goes on.

Yes and afterall, Tom was the only one to understand Ginny...sorry, I'm a proud shipper to the final days

I still can't believe he's dead. But he is really dead. omg! Poor Harry, without his godfather around I really think he's gonna lose it! :o :unsure: :online2long: > Sirius didn't deserve to die!

Why should they go back? there is no point. it happened already, and sirius is gone. i kno sirius meant a lot to harry, but to go back in time could be very risky. what happens if harry gets in the way and dies or ron or hermione. so just leave it. life will go on.

i cryed so much when i read the ootp. i thought that it was all harrys fault. i think harry feels that to but i will miss sirius. he was one of the besyt charactors and his death will make harry stronger and more determind to kill voldomort. i dont think it has enything to do with snape although harry blames him. i hope sirius comes back in some form.

Me too. I really miss Sirius, he was the closest thing Harry had to a parent and he was one of best characters. :brokenheart: :online2long:

i dont think sirius will come back