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07-04-2006, 03:55 AM
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| sox master Ashwinder
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Saroja First | Mooning Over Lupin This is a thread to discuss theories, rumors, and characteristics of Remus Lupin as well as all other things pertaining to him. |
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07-05-2006, 04:31 PM
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| RLFC Alpha Wolf K.o. Lupin's ♥ for Tonks Grindylow
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Second | I'm always wondering, if J.K. wasn't planning on Peter to use his silver hand to kill Lupin (w/ the whole silver bullets kill werewolves), why would she choose silver of all metal? What if Pettigrew owes Lupin a debt of some sort and could kill Greyback? |
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07-05-2006, 07:25 PM
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| Red-head Ginny FanJames' PranksK.o. Lupin's Loyalty Grindylow
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Katie Weasley Second | Quote: |
Originally Posted by unicornkeeper07 I'm always wondering, if J.K. wasn't planning on Peter to use his silver hand to kill Lupin (w/ the whole silver bullets kill werewolves), why would she choose silver of all metal? What if Pettigrew owes Lupin a debt of some sort and could kill Greyback? | I was wonerding that too: If she wasn't planning on using the hand to kill Lupin, then why would she have chosen silver? I had always hoped that it was just some weird coincidence..........because I really don't want Remus to die! I never thought about your second theory...........but it is a possiblility. I hope that Pettigrew could come back to the good side and use his hand to kill Greyback.............but do you think it's likely? |
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07-08-2006, 05:05 PM
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| RLFC Alpha Wolf Romantic K.o. Lupin's Blanket Padfoot's Liver Treat
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| Hmm... to be honest, I don't exactly remember English version of that silver-hand scene. When you read Polish translation you can't really say if the hand was made of silver or just [b]silver/B]. Many other metals (like iron, for example) are grey/silver too.
So are you sure that the hand was made of silver?
Oh, and if it really was... how could Pettigrew kill Greyback with it since he can't kill Lupin? I think that Jo said it's not possible in her books to kill a werewolf with silver... |
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07-08-2006, 05:16 PM
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| SBFC's 100th MemberStalking James Griffin
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Arianna Radisic International Cooperation | ^I'm pretty sure that it said the hand was made of silver.
*runs to look at Gof* Quote: |
'Voldemort raised his wand again and whirled it through the air. A streak of what looked like molten silver hung shining in the wand's wake. Momentarily shapeless, it writhed and then formed itself into a gleaming replica of a human hand, bright as moonlight, which soard downwards and fixed itself upon Wormtail's bleeding wrist.' - GoF, page 563
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'...bright as moonlight...'
| Could there really be a possibility that Wormtail could really kill Greyback or Lupin? |
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07-09-2006, 02:56 PM
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| RLFC Alpha Wolf K.o. Lupin's ♥ for Tonks Grindylow
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Second | Well in the rumours section of J.K.'s site it says "Petter Pettigrew's Silver hand will be used to kill Remus Lupin." And J.K. responded: Quote: |
Nice idea, clearly predicated on the legend that only a silver bullet can kill a werewolf--but incorrect.
| Okay she said "only" and that concerns me. Yes, that's the legend, but there's more than one way to kill a werewolf--any damage to the head or heart can kill a werewolf. And who's to say the Avada Kadavra curse won't work either. So, her use of "only" sounds as if she has something else in mind to kill a werewolf.
I do hope it's not Lupin, that would be awful!!! But, perhaps the "a werewolf" could indicate towards someone like Greyback.
J.K. tends to take things traditional and make things her own, so no telling what she has in store, but the "only" and "a werewolf" concerns me. __________________________________________________ __________________
I think there's a lot more to Pettigrew, no telling how many debts he owes. So, who knows? He could owe one to Lupin. I think it would be interesting if they interacted a bit more in the next book. Seriously, Wormtail was hardly even mentioned in HBP, which makes me believe he will in Book 7. __________________________________________________ __________________
Which also brings me to--if Greyback is killed then who's to say Lupin can't become human again? I mean I like to see Lupin's lycanthropy as part of his characteristic and of what kind of man he becomes. But, according to Lycanthropy, if you're bitten by an Alpha werewolf (one who chose to become a werewolf or was magically transformed) and that Alpha werewolf was killed, then you could be set free of this curse...
But, again J.K. is a bit untraditional, so again no telling! |
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07-23-2006, 03:46 PM
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| sox master Ashwinder
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Saroja First | Quote: |
Originally Posted by unicornkeeper07 Okay she said "only" and that concerns me. Yes, that's the legend, but there's more than one way to kill a werewolf--any damage to the head or heart can kill a werewolf. And who's to say the Avada Kadavra curse won't work either. So, her use of "only" sounds as if she has something else in mind to kill a werewolf. | Huh. Well, I don't think he'll be set free. In the Harry Potter books, lycanthropy is portrayed less like say...cancer and more like deafness. Deafness, along with being a medical state is also essentially an identity. Similarly, I don't think werewolves could easily go from being werewolves to being human without having major issues of identity loss.
As for only, I think it's being highlighted a bit much. I always thought only a silver bullet could kill a werewolf, and Rowling has previously shown that she rarely does much research into things - she is a children's author afterall. So, I don't think it means much. Also, I'm of the opinion that Lycanthropy does not reduce the effect of the killing curse one iota. We've seen little to show otherwise, and the killing curse seems pretty effective as Harry is the only person known to have survived it. |
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07-25-2006, 12:44 AM
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| K.o. Lupin's Patronus RLFC Events OfficerK.O. Twins Humor Demiguise
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| didnt Gilderoy Lockhart say in one of his books he cured a werewolf...i mean i know he didnt but he wrote using things that people had already done...so couldn't someone use that spell on Lupin? then he could go back to Hogwarts *crosses fingers* |
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07-28-2006, 12:08 AM
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| sox master Ashwinder
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Saroja First | Quote: |
Originally Posted by beckylicious1589 didnt Gilderoy Lockhart say in one of his books he cured a werewolf...i mean i know he didnt but he wrote using things that people had already done...so couldn't someone use that spell on Lupin? then he could go back to Hogwarts *crosses fingers* | -flinches- CAUTION: Trust anything Gilderoy Lockhart says at own cost! You are better self medicating than trusting his advice. |
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07-28-2006, 01:05 AM
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| K.o. Lupin's Patronus RLFC Events OfficerK.O. Twins Humor Demiguise
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| lol good point...but i thought that what he wrote in his books had truth to it...it was just that he didnt do all of those things |
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08-27-2006, 08:04 PM
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| | Hippocampus
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Jo Moore Third | I have heard a theory, that lts of people belive, even me.
In POA, J.k says that she gasped at some parts because it foreshadows future events. She said that when lupin is talking to harry on the bridge. I think that somehow Remus was in love with Lily, but she didn't love him. Nobody knew this of cause. And, at the potters wedding, Remus faked "his time of month" to get out of going to the wedding. Who would want to see their best friend marrying the girl you love? |
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09-25-2006, 05:34 PM
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Moira Anne Weasley Fifth | Parden the pun but I could sink my teeth into that theory. I could see Remus in love with Lily but here is something that I don't get I think it was in POA the movie but not the book. Hermione calls Remus away from Sirius by howling but it said while Snape had them in class that the werewolf would recognize the call of one of his own so does that make Hermione a werewolf? I don't think the bookhas that part at all maybe it was just the movie contradicting itself. |
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09-27-2006, 02:05 PM
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| | Bowtruckle
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| Haven't been in for a while, man you folks have some great theories going!
Remus/Lily love theme........I'm not so sure, it may just have been that she was genuinely KIND to EVERYONE therefore many may have loved her w/o her returning that degree of effection. (There are many threads elsewhere about Snape loving Lily too...)
I don't see how Hermione could be a werewolf tho, she'd have had to miss lots of classes, and she is, well....paranoid about classes and being the perfect student. I didn't see a contradiction here, as many humans are able to mimic the cry of the live wolf well enough for wolves to respond, why not a witch mimic a werewolf well enough for him to respond?? "at the potters wedding, Remus faked "his time of month" to get out of going to the wedding" Which book was this in?? I need to reread that..........don't remember it at all.......was it ommitted from the U.S. version I wonder?
I do remember reading something somewhere (I thought in one of the HP books) about there being a cure for werewolves...........I thought Harry bumped into someone who was being cured??? Or am I mixing books up? (I do read a number of werewolf books!)
I'll stop now, as this is getting long!
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10-25-2006, 07:52 AM
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| Snape is my man! Hippocampus
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Hogwarts RPG Name: unsorted Fourth |  First of all, thanks for letting this lonely wolf into this lair, I love it!
Second, I really like these theories.
I truly think (and hope) that if the silver hand wasn't a coincedence, it will mean the death of Greyback (though he's part wolf too, but he's mean)
Even though I'm not really sure whether HP will live in book 7, I do think the good will prevail and therefore GB will die.
I can't remember Lupin saying anything about having feelings about Lily, so I can't really respond to that one. Yet. |
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11-12-2006, 09:32 PM
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| Russian Language Mod HBCFC President SotS Writer Giant Squid
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Tancred L. Adara Seventh Year Ministry RPG Name:
Shane O. Dalton Magical Law Enforcement | I think that Remus and Tonks are perfect for each other!  I know that Remus wants Tonks to love someone better than him, but Tonks loves REMUS! I really want Remus and Tonks to have a happy future. *Cough* Gettin' married! *Cough*
No offence, but "To old, to poor, to ... dangerous." Isn't a really good excuse! Someday, I'm sure they'll get together! I hope that I'm not the only one around here who thinks that. |
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12-18-2006, 12:37 AM
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| | Horklump
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No offence, but "To old, to poor, to ... dangerous." Isn't a really good excuse!
| Actually -- that is a measure of his maturity, I think, and the depth of his feeling for Tonks, that he is willing to sacrifice what he wants for what he believes is in her best interests. He's had enough first-hand experience with discrimination and poverty to desire something better for the woman he loves.
At the same time, I agree that they are perfect for each other. Maybe they will be able to overcome the obstacles facing them -- provided they live through the next book.
I hadn't thought about the silver hand theory before. I am glad to hear that J.K. ruled that out... not that it makes him any safer. Man, I can't wait until July. |
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12-24-2006, 05:34 AM
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| RLFC Alpha Wolf K.o. Lupin's ♥ for Tonks Grindylow
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Second | I'm curious to how it's going to play out in Book 7 (okay for some reason my internet won't let me go to J.K.'s site, so if you want to post the title here, please do!). I think there's just going to be this huge battle at the end of all things and it's going to be interesting who's fighting whom... Maybe Lupin vs. Greyback... Lupin vs. Wormtail... Lupin vs. Bellatrix... It's definitely going to be interesting. Including the love between Lupin and Tonks, which I think it kind of ironically reflects the real-life relationship between David Thewlis and Anna Friel... *sigh* I just wish July would get here faster! |
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12-24-2006, 07:56 AM
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| | Sphinx
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Julian James Stonewall | Lupin vs Greyback would be possible.
the title is HP & the Deathly Hallows |
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12-25-2006, 12:53 AM
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| | Horklump
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Hogwarts RPG Name: unsorted | I wonder if Fenrir is guarding one of the horcruxes. Maybe unknowingly? I wouldn't think that Voldemort would actually trust anyone enough that they would know what they had.
Seems unlikely, but just pondering... |
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02-19-2007, 09:39 PM
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| RHFC / HSFC President RWFC Vice Pres. Griffin
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Sean Davidson | i highly doubt that greyback has a horcrux. he is very unpredictable. he could take it as leverage against voldemort. greyback is powerhungry. voldemort can see that. i think it's almost guarenteed that lupin and greyback will fight each other. it's going to be a very good match, i think. fenrir is very strong. stronger than lupin. makes me worry for remus. there is a thread i created which has a poll concerning this. you should go vote! the link is below, says vote Vote!
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02-20-2007, 08:29 AM
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| | Sphinx
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Julian James Stonewall | Remus knows alot about werewolves. so its possible he will win the fight against Greyback. Even though Greyback might be stronger Remus is almost experienced. As a werewolf & wizrds. Greyback must have even forgotten how its like to be a wizard.
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04-28-2007, 01:10 AM
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| ECFC Rocks! Kneazle
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Sarah Adair First | But greyback has the whole werewolf army behind him... and voldemort. So if he's going to defeat Grey he's gonna have to worry about timing. Maybe Peter uses his silver arm to protect harry from greyback. hmm.... I dunno.
*kicksplottwists* |
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06-22-2007, 08:49 PM
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| | Bowtruckle
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Sarah Mccullough First | True.... but, Remus has a good cause to fight for and that can streangthen anyone. I think it would be a fair match. |
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