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05-03-2005, 02:59 PM
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Xpose magazine has run a feature on the topic of Harry Potter Fanfiction entitled 'Harry Potter and the Extra Adventures.'
The followuing are some interesting excerpts from it. Quote:
While Rowling's lawyers reportedly primed their muskets, ready for a fight on their hands, JK herself was charmed and flattered by the desire of so many to turn their hand to creative writing using her characters, and gave the fans her blessing to continue publishing their work on the Web ... with the appropriate legal disclaimers applied of course!
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Many fans, recognising that Harry is far more worldly since his first day at Hogwarts, have taken it upon themselves to give the young wizard a realised outlet for his teenage hormones, having him romance Hermione Granger, Luna Lovegood, Ginny Weasley and even Draco Malfoy.
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Do writers and administrators know that one of the only conditions issued by Rowling and her lawyers was that stories based on her books was that it be free of 'obscene' content ... and do they care?
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So, through her own literary milestone, has J.K.Rowling also helped sew seeds that will blossom into future writers of Fantasy in years to come? Some of the early attempts that shine like hidden jewels in hay are an enchanting indication of things to come.
The article touches on some very mature themes and therefore it may not be suitable for some of our younger members.
Scans can be seen below - click on the thumbnails to see them in full.
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05-03-2005, 03:07 PM
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| | Glumbumble
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That's really great that fan fiction gets the highlight spot which it deserves.Fans are the ones who make the future of any thing.Thanks for the news and i'm the first one to reply. WICKED
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05-03-2005, 03:08 PM
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| | Jarvey
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It seemed like a condeming article to fan fiction.... Poor users whom got their names highlighted, how lucky SS is to have escaped such judgement. Although I can't say I dont agree, there are DISTURBING fics out there...
An interesting article, no doubt.
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05-03-2005, 03:12 PM
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| | Grindylow
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| That's soo cool... |
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05-03-2005, 03:15 PM
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I've come across some quite nasty ones, as well as my younger sister who was ten at the time, and accidentally Googled HP to find quite a sick story.
I read the article yesterday, and was quite impressed.
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05-03-2005, 03:15 PM
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| | Fwooper
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Wow Mugglenet is mentioned alot in the article. lol
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05-03-2005, 03:54 PM
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| | Bicorn
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| Im going to go and read that fic now that was mention on there,It will get alot of attention. -Helen
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05-03-2005, 04:52 PM
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| | Faerie
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Not those romance fanfics again
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05-03-2005, 04:58 PM
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| | Jarvey
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cool!!
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05-03-2005, 05:56 PM
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| | Crup
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interesting article
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05-03-2005, 06:04 PM
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| | Banshee
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| The Sweetest Thing Lissy De Vil Quote:
JK herself was charmed and flattered by the desire of so many to turn their hand to creative writing using her characters, and gave the fans her blessing to continue publishing their work on the Web...
I think this is the main point here. JK is such a great person! Some might feel that fan fiction is a threat to their own work, but JK has the ability to see that her fans are paying her the greatest form of flattery! No one is trying to claim her characters as their own, rather she has created such a diverse and interesting world that so many people would love to play in it! It is a generous and extremely smart decision on JK's part to allow us to do it. Quote:
Do writers and administrators know that one of the only conditions issued by Rowling and her lawyers was that stories based on her books was that it be free of 'obscene' content ... and do they care?
This part I'm not as sure about... Obscene is in the eye of the beholder. I've seen some pretty explicit stuff out there though. I would hope that people respect JK's wishes. Quote:
So, through her own literary milestone, has J.K.Rowling also helped sew seeds that will blossom into future writers of Fantasy in years to come? Some of the early attempts that shine like hidden jewels in hay are an enchanting indication of things to come.
There are some truly excellent pieces of fan fiction out there, several right here at this site (my favorites know who they are!  ). I think it would be a wonderful thing if using the HP world as a creative outlet allows future writers to get their start.
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05-03-2005, 06:05 PM
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| | Horklump
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I always get nervous right before I start reading that type of stuff. I wrtie fanfiction mostly silly little love stories about how I envision characters ending up together basically to get my ideas about canon out there into the world.
I know J.K. Rowling said she is okay with it, but I always wonder whether one day that will change and then everyone is sucked into the world of lawsuits.
I don't read any of the 'odd' types of fanfiction, but I do know that www.fanfiction.net is cracking down on that stuff and some of my friends (who are superb authors) are involved. I want to stand beside them, but I don't want a lawsuit. I'm at a loss of what to do.
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05-03-2005, 06:09 PM
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| | Poltergeist
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Originally Posted by PHLphlyest Wow Mugglenet is mentioned alot in the article. lol Yes, but for good reasons Quote:
There are some truly excellent pieces of fan fiction out there, several right here at this site (my favorites know who they are! ).
*cough*me*cough* What? Just being honest ... Quote:
I don't read any of the 'odd' types of fanfiction, but I do know that www.fanfiction.net is cracking down on that stuff and some of my friends (who are superb authors) are involved. I want to stand beside them, but I don't want a lawsuit. I'm at a loss of what to do.
Sounds to me like you'll be safe so long as you respect JK's rights. Alot of people feel FF is their right and therefore believe that not being able to write that, is a restriction on their freedom of expression. BUT what they fail to forget is that we're borrowing characters which aren't ours therefore we've no real rights to them. So long as you respect JK, you should be alright. It's not like she's a scary corporate monster or anything.
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05-03-2005, 06:18 PM
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| | Jarvey
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Lol Emma. And yes, people do seem to forget that Sirius belongs to Jo and whoever else that has purchased rights. Disclaimers are important and powerful to a fan fiction, especially Harry Potter. Talking about ff.net, just look at their options of HP. Not taking it the fact that is has the highest amount of submissions...
I know that Jo absolutely does not want / fics, and while it remains to be seen whether it is about image of a childrens book, her own beliefs or whatever factors, I must admit there are pretty good ones, of all genre out there. And highly disturbing ones too.
Still, it's wonderful that she is encouraging ff's. Jo does have a habit of making us guess and figure out riddles, just to get us thinking. *wink*
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05-03-2005, 06:25 PM
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| | Poltergeist
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I know that Jo absolutely does not want / fics, and while it remains to be seen whether it is about image of a childrens book, her own beliefs or whatever factors, I must admit there are pretty good ones, of all genre out there.
I don't think homophobic relationships offend her. I think it's more because that sort of thing is never going to happen. I think they're alright so long as they don't verge on explicit. Any explicit, hetro or ****, is bad when it's connecting itself to HP unless it's addressed in a tactful and adult manner and is kept well away from innocent eyes.
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05-03-2005, 06:57 PM
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*cough*me*cough* What? Just being honest ... Bad cough, Emma?
And well I think that article is quite interesting. It covers every area of FF... I think it may be right but come one HP is so huge that it's hard to really 'control' this...
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05-03-2005, 07:39 PM
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| | Horklump
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Originally Posted by Marcella_Riddle Alot of people feel FF is their right and therefore believe that not being able to write that, is a restriction on their freedom of expression. BUT what they fail to forget is that we're borrowing characters which aren't ours therefore we've no real rights to them.
Hmmm... okay so what scares me is that my friends' exodus from ff.net was because one severely graphic story got deleted twice (she/he edited it the second time). The story was graphic. I totally agree with that. I was not a reader of it, but I loved her other stories. Next the site deleted the rest of her stories, which weren't graphic. They told her they deleted for songs, lists, and announcements.
Anyway, April 27th, they put up a rule in a pretty harsh tone on the front page saying no songs in stories or they'll be deleted. (They didn't send out a mass email about the rule change, just expected everyone to read the front page... like everyone does daily, right?) The next day they deleted her friends' stories on her favorites list. That's why I stand with them now, because they targeted her and her friends (all are amazing fanfiction writers).
Initially, however, she was out of place, but then the site got tyrannical. I think it was motivated mostly by parents (maybe fears too). They didn't want her there even if she changed and although she changed for the rules, they crafted new rules to get rid of her.
Sites have a resonsilbity to maintain their integrity, but I think multiple fanfiction sites exist because authors get offended and don't want to craft their ideas around one administrator's rules and whim.
To make a long story short, I'm scared because she did break the rules and that's why the whole escapade started. I stand by her, because (when not being graphic) she is an amazing fanfiction author (a rarity). I just think she may be headed for trouble.
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05-03-2005, 07:46 PM
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| | Poltergeist
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The story was graphic. I totally agree with that. I was not a reader of it, but I loved her other stories. Next the site deleted the rest of her stories, which weren't graphic. They told her they deleted for songs, lists, and announcements.
I can understand why they did that but I can also appreciate how devastating that must've been for them. Quote:
Anyway, April 27th, they put up a rule in a pretty harsh tone on the front page saying no songs in stories or they'll be deleted. (They didn't send out a mass email about the rule change, just expected everyone to read the front page... like everyone does daily, right?) The next day they deleted her friends' stories on her favorites list. That's why I stand with them now, because they targeted her and her friends (all are amazing fanfiction writers).
I'd be careful. To me, it doesn't sound personal and copying song lyrics without the permission of the artist in question IS breach of copyright so the website has every right to worry about that because they could get sued because of it. Quote:
To make a long story short, I'm scared because she did break the rules and that's why the whole escapade started. I stand by her, because (when not being graphic) she is an amazing fanfiction author (a rarity). I just think she may be headed for trouble.
Anyone who breaks rules gets into trouble for it. It's good you're standing by them but you shouldn't get too involved in blindly defending.
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05-03-2005, 07:53 PM
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| | Banshee
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What? Just being honest ...
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I know that Jo absolutely does not want / fics, and while it remains to be seen whether it is about image of a childrens book, her own beliefs or whatever factors, I must admit there are pretty good ones, of all genre out there.
I don't think homophobic relationships offend her. I think it's more because that sort of thing is never going to happen. I think they're alright so long as they don't verge on explicit. Any explicit, hetro or ****, is bad when it's connecting itself to HP unless it's addressed in a tactful and adult manner and is kept well away from innocent eyes.
I don't think she is offended either. Some / is extremely well written. Besides, one of the fan sites that she admits is a 'guilty pleasure' of hers (not sure if I can say its name) has tons of / posted.
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05-03-2005, 08:01 PM
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Some fanfiction is good. I'm glad JKR is the kind of person who will let people borrow her characters. |
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05-03-2005, 09:52 PM
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| | Ghoul
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05-03-2005, 09:56 PM
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i read that but it was dr.com... it's kinda interesting...
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05-03-2005, 10:18 PM
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cool,that was intersting..
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05-03-2005, 10:23 PM
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| | Hippocampus
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Talia Rogers Department of Mysteries | Some of the sites that allow authors to post fan fictions are ambiguous at best when it comes to defining the rules of what is or is not accepable on their site.
A lot of times it falls under the sad addage of 'Nothing is wrong as long as you don't get caught.' I find this to be especially true of fanfiction.net I understand that it would involve a lot of work to police and approve every entry, but it would sharply inprove the quality of work on the site. And I am sure that there are a great many accomplished writers on the site who would be glad to lend their minds to that task. I am also equally sure that this will never be implemented. May I say that I'm pleased that this is not a problem I find on this site? I think the Mods here do en excellent job!
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05-03-2005, 11:04 PM
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| | Imp
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i LOVE fan fic its realli good wen ur waiting for the release of a new hp book. buh its realli sick wit slash and incest and everything tats just not normal. im so NOT against same sex marriages but its like famous characters are doin all tis perverted stuff.... its gross and makes me shudder. buh tis article is realli kool!!
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