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02-28-2005, 07:30 PM
| | |  What's in & what's out for GoF
Sci Fi Wire recently held a short interview with Potter producer David Heyman in which he tells us some of what's in and what's out of the ' Goblet of Fire' film and also adds that Rowling is fine with all changes made. Quote:
"Anything that doesn't really relate to Harry and Harry's journey is less relevant."
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"That's not to say that there're not minor detours. Inevitably there are. But there are certain things that we don't spend as much time with as they do in the book, just by the very nature of the material."
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The film will not deal with the subplot involving Winky and Dobby, two house elves, and the issue of elf liberation.
"It's Hermione's issue," Heyman said. "Not to say Hermione's [not important]. Hermione's a vitally important character. But you have to make some choices. ... One piece of information ... we've put into another character, which feels perfectly organic [and] works. ... The story works perfectly without [the elf story].
And we consulted with Jo [Potter author J.K. Rowling] about it, and she was fine [with it]."
That 'piece of information' I feel 99% certain is about the Gillyweed. Book fans will know in canon Dobby gives it to Harry whereas we saw set photos of Dan & Matt (who plays Neville) filming some lake scenes which seems to suggest Neville Longbottom will give Harry the Gillyweed (as Dobby doesn't appear to be featuring at all) which is in character in the sense that Neville is good at Herbology.
Scenes that have been shot include:-
* Inside the Weasleys' suprisingly spacious tent at the Quidditch World Cup
* Cemetry Scenes
* A trophy room filled with silvered plaques and cups of various sizes
* The Ministry Box at the Quidditch World Cup stadium
* A faux marble Trial Chamber, which rises several stories high
* All the three tasks for the Triwizard Tournament Quote:
Hogwart's Great Hall, meanwhile, has been redressed for the Yule Ball, a big dance that occurs midway through the movie. Every surface has been silvered, with giant icicles to hang from the beams, and a giant Christmas tree sits at the head of the space.
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"It's pretty interesting," Heyman said. "It's good. That's most definitely a different twist on the whole Potter thing. I think people will enjoy seeing the world getting bigger. I think the tasks are going to be great. And I think the kids [stars Radcliffe, Emma Watson and Rupert Grint] are better actors. They're just better actors, so you're seeing more nuance than you may have in the first film, and you saw more in the second and you saw more in the third."
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03-01-2005, 12:52 PM
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well, that's ok about the house elves. It isn't REALLY major to the plot, and if JKR says it's ok, than I'm sure it is!  | 
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03-01-2005, 12:57 PM
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i hate it when they do that! when they just make the movie their own and change everything around. It just doesnt make it worth-while. I still love the movies but I hate it when the change practicly the WHOLE movie!
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03-01-2005, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Lupin Jr That's what the H/Hr's said when they saw them in the snow picture from PoA, and look at how that scene worked out, instead of adding to H/Hr, it proved why they don't work. Pictures can be very misleading! Very true but I don't see how this could be mis-interpreted unless Neville is asking Harry how to ask Ginny to the ball at the totally wrong moment  Quote:
I still love the movies but I hate it when the change practicly the WHOLE movie!
Well, they haven't done that. This is one small subplot in the great scheme of things.
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03-01-2005, 03:05 PM
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i do like the bits they cut out, but it is true they are not central to the plot, so losing them will cost nothing to the film as a whole.
And yes, i agree with you Emma, David Heyman is a good guy. He works hard for the authenticity of the films to the books!
I'm getting reall excited now! yay!
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03-01-2005, 05:59 PM
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Aww... I would have liked to see Hermione be all SPEW-obsessed!
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03-02-2005, 03:39 PM
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My theory has been confirmed then.. this news that JKR is okay about taking out the SPEW sub-plot means that it has very little significance to the outcome of the story in the last 2 books.
I agree taking it out of the movie bcoz it will only unnecessarily lengthen it and a waste, I'd rather they concentrate the movie in other exciting parts of the book than this sub-plot.
I like Heyman.. if I decide to write to someone at the HP franchise, it will be him.. and I do plan to write to him sometime soon.
Emma-- I think that Dobby will still appear in GoF tho.. they just wont talk about the SPEW sub-plot.
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03-02-2005, 03:51 PM
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Emma-- I think that Dobby will still appear in GoF tho.. they just wont talk about the SPEW sub-plot.
What purpose would he serve? He's most likely not giving Harry the Gillyweed because Matthew Lewis has been seen filming scenes by the Lake with Dan Radcliffe. I don't think they'd waste money on CGI just to have him appear in the background. Especially with all the money and time and creativity they'll be using on the rest of the film anyways.
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03-02-2005, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcella_Riddle What purpose would he serve? He's most likely not giving Harry the Gillyweed because Matthew Lewis has been seen filming scenes by the Lake with Dan Radcliffe. I don't think they'd waste money on CGI just to have him appear in the background. Especially with all the money and time and creativity they'll be using on the rest of the film anyways. But that would mean a big alteration!
Moody gave the herbology book to Neville and Harry is supposed to be too egoistic to ask Neville's help and so misses out on it. I think its important to show this side of Harry's character, a flaw in Harry's character that makes him closer to reality, human, and not too heroic to be true.
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03-02-2005, 04:02 PM
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Wait is it no Dobby or no Dobby and Winky? No Dobby fine (even though I was looking forward to seeing him) but no winky? I don't necessarily care about the drunk Winky, but what about the Winky at the Quidditch cup? *shaking head* No SPEW so uh Hermoine is doing what in the library? Guess she hooks up with Krum a different way obessing over something else. I don't think I'm gonna read anymore about what's not in the movie....all I know is for OOTP THERE BETTER BE A KREACHER! *thinking* There actually has to be a Kreacher...you can't cut him out. It's like cutting out Mrs. Figg...it'll leave the movie goer lookin dumbstruck. lol As long as my Snape scene is in there (with moody and mr. filch) I reeeeaaaalllly don't care. lol
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03-02-2005, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by wheezy's gal But that would mean a big alteration!
Moody gave the herbology book to Neville and Harry is supposed to be too egoistic to ask Neville's help and so misses out on it. I think its important to show this side of Harry's character, a flaw in Harry's character that makes him closer to reality, human, and not too heroic to be true. Heyman said there's one piece of information that's been moved because of the elf alteration. I think Neville will give it to Harry. Moody, who is Crouch and wants Harry through, tells Neville to give Harry the Gillyweed after stealing it from Snape's supply.
The whole Ron/Harry fight will show a flaw. He's already flawed enough in the films, he doesn't need to be shown in that light anymore. Quote:
what about the Winky at the Quidditch cup?
That's one change we can't predict. I don't see right now how they can alter that, but there are ways they can. Quote:
Hermoine is doing what in the library? Guess she hooks up with Krum a different way obessing over something else.
That's easily altered. He can just see her in the corridoor and ask her or something. We don't have to 'see' them bound. Just like we didn't 'see' the H/C kiss but we know that happened. Quote:
for OOTP THERE BETTER BE A KREACHER!
Kreacher is essential. He will be there, I'm sure of it. He needs to, to explain how alot of the events happen and why. Remember, he lies to Harry and says Sirius isn't at Grimmauld Place and that's what makes the 6 go to the DoM. Quote:
As long as my Snape scene is in there (with moody and mr. filch) I reeeeaaaalllly don't care. lol
You mean on the stairs when Harry's caught and Moody confiscates the map? I think that might be there for comedic purposes.
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03-02-2005, 10:08 PM
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They shouldn't have cut out Mrs Figg in the first movie. I was surprised in OotP when she turned out to be a squib. I do want to see the stair scene. And I really really hope they keep the ferret scene! Ok, I lost my trail of thought... sorry....
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03-03-2005, 11:57 PM
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that made me even less patient
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