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06-02-2004, 01:41 PM
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[img]http://www.snitchseeker.com/images/news/poa_ron2_80.jpg' align='middle'> Ron Weasley fans unite - A new online petition Summary:
With the release of Prisoner of Azkaban the fan's of Harry Potter's best friend, Ron Weasley, have made their feeling's on how his character is being portrayed heard. An online petition to make return Ron Weasley's character to how JK Rowling has made him is now available and will be forwarded to the screenwriter. Article:
Hello Everyone,
With the third installment of the Harry Potter series 'Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban' being released in Britian a few days ago and the world wide release on June 4th the online community has already jumped at the script.
This time it isn't about the missing, vital scene's or the massive plot holes, this time it is about the way Ron Weasley is being portrayed. The Ron Weasley we love from the books is one that is quirky, loyal, fun and brave, but all we are seeing in the movie is a very sad comic relief character.
With Hermione Granger, who is an amazing character on her own, getting one of his most important lines from the movie (marking the second time in the series she has stolen an important line) Ron Weasley fan's pounced. A new petition (link below) is now available for people to give their comments to Steve Knovels about his actions in making Ron the third wheel and giving Hermione the role of 'Super Hermione', one that doesn't sum up our favorite Gryffindor girl in the third movie.
To read through the petition click here
Here are some main parts from the petition: Quote: We, the undersigned, petition you to discontinue ignoring Ron Weasley in favour of Hermione Granger in the film adaptations of JK Rowling’s phenomenal Harry Potter series. Mr. Kloves has been known to say that he loves Hermione. That’s fine, so do most people. However, the film adaptations are letting Ron go in favour of Hermione, which is becoming more and more disconcerting. We believe the script should stay true to Ms Rowling’s characterisations. Quote: It is one of the most powerful lines that Ron has up to date in the series, and it was disappointing to see it given to Hermione by Mr. Kloves. The line from the book, Harry Potter and The Prisoner of Azkaban is as follows:
"If you want to kill Harry, you'll have to kill us too!" he said fiercely, though the effort of standing upright was draining him of still more color, and he swayed slightly as he spoke.
"Did you hear me?" Ron said weakly, though he was clinging painfully to Harry to stay upright. "You'll have to kill all three of us!"
These two “little” lines are a turning point in the development of Ron Weasley’s character. Please if you feel strongly about Ron's character then lend your support to the petition as soon as possible.
Speaking of petition's, some of you may remember a few months ago I started a 'Harry Potter and the prisoner of Azkaban DVD' petition in which it requested for audio commentary. After excellent support from the online community I forwarded the petition and recieved a reply from Warner Bros. a few days ago.
They thanks everyone for the suggestion and forwarded the idea to the DVD format designer's. Hopefully this extra feature will be included. Save Ron Weasley |
06-02-2004, 02:42 PM
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I think they are absolutely right when they say that the movies are not bringing out Ron's character.
Even in COS, Hermione said most of Ron's lines, including those about what a mudblood actually is.
Ron doesn't even have as much to say in the movie as Hermione.
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06-02-2004, 03:09 PM
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Here are some more quotes to show Kloves blatant biased writing toward Hermione. I think he has an agenda against Ron, that or an axe to grind. Quote: I know he has miffed quite a few people and he's irritated me in some ways too.
I dont like the way he obsesses in the script over Hermione.
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"Fear of a name only increases fear of the thing itself?" - Hermione's line in CoS
That was Dumbledore's line; something that philosophical coming out of a 12 year old's mouth? Not believable, even for Hermione.
"If you want to kill Harry, you'll have to kill us too!" - Hermione's line in PoA.
That was something that Ron said in PoA and as Luz pointed out to me, the only chance Ron get's in PoA to show how heroic he can be.
"Hearing voices that no-one else can hear isn't a good thing Harry, even in the wizarding world." - Hermione's line in CoS.
Excuse me, Kloves! That was Ron's line too! I'm starting to see a pattern here, does he have an agenda against Ron?
Another thing, wizarding world? How the heck would Hermione know that? She doesn't live in the world! That line was Ron's for a reason! He lives in the wizarding world, he's grown up in it so he knows. She's taking away the little knowledge he has! Correction, Kloves is.
Hermione's knowledge on what the term 'mudblood' means.
"Not a term heard in civilised conversation." - Well, in the book, Ron had to explain what the term meant to her. Hermione would not have known what a mudblood was, the whole point of Ron telling her, grudgingly, partly showed his feelings toward her to, he didn't want to tell her because it made him feel bad. That's why he is so protective when someone calls her that.
In conclusion, he needs to, in my opinion, get over Hermione's character and give Ron the lines that are rightfully his! Quote: "You mean Voldemort's out there right now?"
She said his name? OotP hadn't even been released when she said this. It is suppose to be a big deal when she says it to show that she has some form of ignorence to Voldemort's fear. They needed to be more careful when writing this. Although, in the original script it does say 'You-know-who' so my guess is that Watson slipped the line up.
"Everyone return to your dormetries immedietly...everyone...except you three!"
I am sorry, but even I was trying not to laugh at how cliche that line was. He could have told everyone to go back, but called Harry, Ron and Hermione over to him. I just don't like that line. If this fails to convince anyone - I'll eat my socks.
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06-02-2004, 03:23 PM
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I too was shocked when I heard, "If you want to kill Harry, you'll have to kill us too," coming from Hermione's mouth, not Ron's. I don't know whether he is being portrayed just as comic relief, I mean Rupert does it really well, but I think audiences who haven't read the book needed to see that Ron is a loyal friend and would die for them. Even us who have read the books would love to see Ron as this character on screen. I mean you can't blame Emma Watson for stealing Ron's lines, she just has to say what's on the script. Don't forget she has read these books and loves them as much as we do. She might have been shocked that she had been given the "If you want to kill Harry, you'll have to kill us too," line. Hermione is a strong enough character and shows her loyalty to her friends through her actions and other lines she says. Let Ron have his lines back!!
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06-02-2004, 03:27 PM
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I know, it was really nice to have some comic comments from Rupert, but at times it almost made him out as gormless and a bit dumb. Like with the whole 'How did she get here?' about Hermione, and how they didn't look like they'd told him at the end. They just laughed at him. It seemed a bit like the dumbed poor Ron down a bit.
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06-02-2004, 04:26 PM
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that is so great.really cool.
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06-02-2004, 04:43 PM
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I love Ron Weasley he is my favorite character in the harry Potter books and films but when you take away his important lines in the book and give them to someone else in the movies the audience cant see the real Ron express himself
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06-02-2004, 05:22 PM
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I've lost count of how many times i've said that in the movies Ron has become the comic relief. I've never liked how that character is portrayed, all he does are goofy faces, and he's represented as a some dumb coward. My concept of him is not good, but there is more to Ron than that.
It's not like he's my favorite character, far from it, but yeah, they've kind of made that character look even worse than he does in the books. I'm not Ron's fan (in case you haven't realized, lol), but as a fan of the books i really hate it when they disregard what's written to fulfill some movie cliche (the comic relief). I'll not sign the petition, mainly because those things don't work, look at all past petitions, for Wood, for Cho, for GoF to be four hours long etc... It's a waste of time. And secondly because i don't care much about Ron anyway, i'll leave the job of defending him to his fans.
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06-02-2004, 06:01 PM
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i agree with all of you... they've messed up Ron's character...
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I think it is very good of these people to point out the bad things involved as well.Yeah,even i felt that Ron was shown a bit fearful even near the whomping whillow scene(actually he is scared of spiders,But why Whomping whillow too?).When i was watching the movie in theatre,everyone were laughing at Ron.But now in POA....This is really bad of the script writer(i dont remember his name)to change the lines of Hermione and Ron.It will affect the later movies and the charecters as well.One of the persons here quoted a good point here.In cos hermione says "fear of a name increases fear of thing itself".Actually Hermione never talks to Lucius malfoy in that scene.
Well done!
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06-02-2004, 07:16 PM
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I agree! Completely! But i don't think i can sign because if my mom finds out she'll probably laugh at me. Somebody sign for me! :flowersmile:
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06-02-2004, 08:34 PM
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Too right. It looks like Rons only there just to be funny. *runs off to sign the petition* I love you Ron!! :sorcerer:
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06-02-2004, 08:49 PM
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I AM WITH YOU GUYS! WE ALL KNOW RON IS A FUNNY CHARACTER, HE SHOULD OUGHT TO SAY THAT...
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06-02-2004, 08:53 PM
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06-02-2004, 09:09 PM
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Ron is my favorite character and they always portray him as adumb and comical character. I dont think that is fair b/c they should do him not just justice in the books, but in the movies too!! :wub:
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06-02-2004, 10:02 PM
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yes i totally agree with this, i mean yes it's okay for him to sometimes say a funny line and he is very good as a bit of comic relief. but the script writers aren't balancing it out enough. in the books Ron is the funny one at times, but he shows his loyalties through certain lines and actions...but then they change it in the films so then all we see is the funny side of the character and a bit too much cowardice...he is in Gryffindor, so he has to show his bravery too!!
I still love Rupert as Ron, he's so great as him, but it would be nice for Rupert to show Ron's other qualities, like bravery and loyality. It's not Rupert's fault, he just has to say the lines given, but I'm sure he'd jump at the chance for everyone (those who have and those who haven't read the books) to see Ron's courageous and strong character.
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| Keeper of Mr Tennant's specs 608 people have signed the patition so far. i dont like Mr Kloves anyway he changes way to much but i am quite frankly amazed that JK Rowling hasnt said anything to him about it.
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06-02-2004, 10:34 PM
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Ive signed... RON is unique!!!! I was 609
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Hermione gets on my nerves. Give Ron his true lines back. I'm gonna go sign. If youve also noticed Rupert hasn't been in ANY interviews. Only Dan and Emma. What's up with that?
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06-03-2004, 11:51 AM
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that aint fair! i am signing up too. I mean Ron is such a cool character and here they mess it up!
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06-03-2004, 04:48 PM
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:star: it's unfair, Ron shouldn't be ignored like this... it's bad enough that the movies have many cuts (but i still love it) then it doesn't stick to the story... :star:
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06-05-2004, 09:24 AM
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i've always told my girl Tonya that they don't bring out Ron in these movies. she didn't understand cuz she hadn't read the books. i lent her the first one and now she see what i'm talking about.
they make him out to be darn coward too much and i can't stand that. it also made me mad about Hermione having his lines. that was just....retarded. esp. the one about hearing voices in the Wizarding World. |
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06-05-2004, 10:29 AM
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I wasn't sure about signing up for the petition, before, but I have signed up now.
Right now, a total of 716 fans have signed up. Looks like Rupert definitely has a lot of supporters.
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I'm definitely signingup.
Ronald Weasley is one of my favorite characters, and it'sabout time someone did something about the way the movies massacre him, showing him as a moron and a coward.
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^ I agree and I am definitely signing up!
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