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08-07-2003, 05:51 PM
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Move Over A.S. Byatt, Bloom is Back
Sylvia sent us this article from The Atlantic Online in which literary critic Harold Bloom again spouts off about Harry Potter, calling it "rubbish". A quote:
I went round to the Yale bookstore and purchased an inexpensive paperback copy of the first volume. I could not believe what was in front of me. What I particularly could not bear was that it was just one cliché after another. In fact, I kept a little checklist on an envelope next to me, and every time any individuals were going, as you or I might say, to take a walk, they were going to "stretch their legs." At the fiftieth or sixtieth stretching of the legs, that was too much for me. Editorial note, solely for clarification: There is exactly one stretch of any leg in Harry Potter and the Philosopher's/Sorcerer's Stone. Not only has this man not read the books -- which he proved by that little slip up, do you know what book he has just put out?
Bloom's newest book, Hamlet: Poem Unlimited, is essentially a love letter to Shakespeare and his most famous creation. The book was born out of Bloom's dissatisfaction with his own 1999 work, Shakespeare: The Invention of the Human. After devoting a lengthy chapter to Hamlet's themes and origins, Bloom realized that most of his true feelings about the play had not made it into print. To remedy this mistake, he wrote Poem Unlimited, a slim volume that strips away history and theory to reveal Bloom's most personal responses to his favorite work of literature.
Okay, you know what that means to me (a die-hard shakespere fan, no less?)? It means that this guy, apart from having any creativity, has to depend on the work of other writers like the great will shakespere to get his book published. This man is basically not only stealing someone else's great work so that his will get recognized, but he's using a "J.K. slam" to gain publicity. Frankly, people like that are sad. If you read the article, this appears to be all he does: infurirate fans of real authors, and just work off someone else's idea. You know what, Bloom? At least J.K. is original.
The full article (like you care about this windbag) http://www.theatlantic.com/unbound/intervi...t2003-07-16.htm  | |
08-07-2003, 08:38 PM
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| | Ramora
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Thanks for the link, I read the interview. So he think that the HP books won't stand the test of time? We will prove him wrong.
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08-07-2003, 09:33 PM
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| | Chizpurfle
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It's kind of sad - the only books this guy has ever written have been about other people's work. Makes him a huge hipocrit (sp?) for trying to bash on J.K. who at least writes something original
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08-07-2003, 10:37 PM
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There are so many swears I want to call this guy! That idiot! He's such a vile, disgusting, waste of space. Nobody wants to hear him grumble about Harry Potter. The jerk is just JEALOUS! JEALOUS because JKR has fame is he's just some nitpicky, jealous, grumpy old man who writes books off of others' works! How DARE he say those things about Harry Potter! Harry Potter is rubbish, and like all rubbish, time will obliterate it!??? HOW DARE HE?!!!!!
Harry Potter is NOT rubbish! Harry Potter is a timeless classic! Time will never obliterate it! Even ages from now, Harry will stand firm in his rightful place beside Tom Sawyer and Odysseus!
Harry Potter will never, NEVER, EVER, die. Harry will live on FOREVER!
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08-08-2003, 03:05 AM
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| | Glumbumble
Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hogwarts!!!(i wish) sunny Florida...ya know Middle Earth wouldn't be bad either!
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Quote: Okay, you know what that means to me (a die-hard shakespere fan, no less?)? It means that this guy, apart from having any creativity, has to depend on the work of other writers like the great will shakespere to get his book published. This man is basically not only stealing someone else's great work so that his will get recognized, but he's using a "J.K. slam" to gain publicity. Frankly, people like that are sad. If you read the article, this appears to be all he does: infurirate fans of real authors, and just work off someone else's idea. You know what, Bloom? At least J.K. is original.  BAM! YOU TELL THAT BLOOM GUY! i totally agree! i have nothing more to say because you took the words right out of my mouth! :mrgreen: | |
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08-08-2003, 11:19 AM
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Quote: It's kind of sad - the only books this guy has ever written have been about other people's work. Makes him a huge hipocrit (sp?) for trying to bash on J.K. who at least writes something original I find it sadder that you should criticize a man's entire body of work having failed to profess any knowledge of it or its context within the literary world. Before you attack his originality, I urge you to pick up one of his publications and judge for yourself why he is such a respected, or to some despised, figure in his community. Trust me, the Existentialists and others did not hate him without their reasons, among these Bloom's resolute adherence to his romantic philology.
Yes, Harold Bloom betrayed his ignorance of the Philosopher's Stone when he claimed to have observed numerous instances of the "streching legs" bit, but he also had reasonable, albeit petty, arguments to support his dissent from the majority view expressed in this thread thus far. Had you actually read his original article, rather than a passing reference to it in an interview, I'm sure you would know this. You would also do well to note that Bloom never "bashes on J.K." His grievances are with the novel, not the author he does not once mention. Although I laud your attempt to protect the Harry Potter series I also love, please try to do so intelligently and with a modicum of reason.
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08-08-2003, 03:32 PM
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08-08-2003, 07:59 PM
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| | Chizpurfle
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Quote: Originally posted by Disappointed@Aug 8 2003, 04:26 AM Quote: It's kind of sad - the only books this guy has ever written have been about other people's work. Makes him a huge hipocrit (sp?) for trying to bash on J.K. who at least writes something original I find it sadder that you should criticize a man's entire body of work having failed to profess any knowledge of it or its context within the literary world. Before you attack his originality, I urge you to pick up one of his publications and judge for yourself why he is such a respected, or to some despised, figure in his community. Trust me, the Existentialists and others did not hate him without their reasons, among these Bloom's resolute adherence to his romantic philology.
Yes, Harold Bloom betrayed his ignorance of the Philosopher's Stone when he claimed to have observed numerous instances of the "streching legs" bit, but he also had reasonable, albeit petty, arguments to support his dissent from the majority view expressed in this thread thus far. Had you actually read his original article, rather than a passing reference to it in an interview, I'm sure you would know this. You would also do well to note that Bloom never "bashes on J.K." His grievances are with the novel, not the author he does not once mention. Although I laud your attempt to protect the Harry Potter series I also love, please try to do so intelligently and with a modicum of reason. This man, I agree, has been a celebrated author, but he has never actually written a book that does not incorporate someone else's. He also likes to gain fame and publicity by insulting authors who do have original ideas, and he is famous for that. This man has decided to sell books by using other people's ideas, and then gain noteriety by choosing to put down the competition. It shows weakness and a lack of confidence in one's own work.
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08-08-2003, 10:32 PM
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| | Puffskein
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oooo now i know how to get my books published without even trying and how to get satisfaction by slamming other writers such as my fave Rowling. At least i now can gain credit of other peoples work by sitting my my bum and not lifting a finger....ok one finger, i need to email it to the publishers.....
I have to congratulate Baytt though. I never thought she could get any friends but i see one has just made the cut. I congratulate her on her succsess.... 
Does anyone have any morals anymore? How could you possibly slam another author and get credit for more or less someone elses work and STILL have the nerve to call yourself an author? It is disgusting what people think of now-a-days just to try and gain a bit of respect (none shown here of course) and to try and et a bit of attention.
It is amazing how low a person can stoop to without trying.
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08-10-2003, 01:08 AM
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| | Puffskein
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hmpf, he's just anoter jealous auther, like all the other harry potter hater authors... | |
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08-14-2003, 06:16 AM
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Yep, just one more jealous brat. Actually, I agree with all of you, this gotta end. BTW, where does that windbag lives? :online2long:
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08-15-2003, 01:03 AM
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| | Chizpurfle
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And as to "Disappointed", have you read any of his work? If not, how are you any better to judge? Yes, I jumped the gun, but anyone who makes this kind of public comment about a famous author is either not very secure or is a genuinely sad person.
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