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11-01-2004, 12:46 PM
| | | Pupil fails English exam because of Potter 'moral dilemma' Reuters has an article about a South African schoolboy who failed his English exam after refusing to answer a question on the Harry Potter books due to a 'moral dilemma'. Quote:
Eighteen-year-old John Smit did not answer a comprehension question on a review of one of J.K. Rowling's books on the boy wizard, worth 30 percent of his English exam.
"He wouldn't answer it because it supports witchcraft, and we're against witchcraft.."
Maybe this is a silly question but surely this boy knew prior to the exam which books he'd have to ask questions on? Why then, did he wait until AFTER the exam to make a fuss about it? Why not change schools prior to the exams if he felt it would affect him? Probably because that way, they would've received zilch publicity over it. Had he chosen the previous option, he would not have failed at all. Maybe this is harsh, but it's his own fault he failed.
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11-01-2004, 01:26 PM
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| | Dragon
Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Louisiana - SS!Vet
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Katherine Elizabeth Thomas Third Year | Shiny 'Claw Babe ^ My thoughts exactly. Its his own fault he failed..... Weird none the less.
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11-01-2004, 01:30 PM
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| | Doxy
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Crazy... I totally agree, he should have talked with the teacher instead of causing all of this.
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11-01-2004, 01:33 PM
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| | Crup
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| In Love with Touz | | Lil Mikky-Mu Wierd... I agree, he shouldn't have waited. What a way to get attention! He obviously cares more about that than doing well on his exam. I respect his opinion, but... eesh.
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11-01-2004, 03:16 PM
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| | Bundimun
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that does sound kinda weird and i dont think that a book the deals w/ witchcraft would have nething to do w/ a question on a test. cuz the question probably does not have to deal w/ the concept of magic but more of the plot line.
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11-01-2004, 03:21 PM
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| | Bicorn
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11-01-2004, 03:25 PM
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| | Bicorn
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Originally Posted by Marcella_Riddle Maybe this is a silly question but surely this boy knew prior to the exam which books he'd have to ask questions on? Sounds like a comprehension piece he was answering on. Of course it depends on the examination body in question, but in general comprehension pieces can be taken randomly from anywhere.
Still, any comprehension is asking you to answer technical english questions. Ensure you can read a passage and comprehend. They rarely[in my experience anyway] ask for any opinion, or require any moral decision, most answers are completely out of the piece context. So where his problem was I don't know. Sounds drama queenish to me.
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11-01-2004, 03:42 PM
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| | Bicorn
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that story is a big load of stinky poo!
stupid boy, no sympathy, he only has himself to blame *sticks tounge out at stupid boy*
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11-01-2004, 03:54 PM
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| | Skrewt
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That's just wrong. It was only 1 question. Just answer it. It isn't that hard to do. It's not like he would be supporting harry potter just passing the class.
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11-01-2004, 04:16 PM
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| | Ashwinder
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his fault
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11-01-2004, 04:43 PM
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| | Guest | Oh boy not this witchcraft thing again.. really! when will people in the world realize that the "spells" are just gibberish mostly. They have no real power. Plus the kid is eightteen, he should know the difference between fact and fiction. I bet he never watches tv, reads, or anything cause of his problem with distinguishing reality from imaginary. | |
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11-01-2004, 05:28 PM
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Maybe this is a silly question but surely this boy knew prior to the exam which books he'd have to ask questions on? Why then, did he wait until AFTER the exam to make a fuss about it? Why not change schools prior to the exams if he felt it would affect him? Probably because that way, they would've received zilch publicity over it. Had he chosen the previous option, he would not have failed at all. Maybe this is harsh, but it's his own fault he failed.
^Not harsh at all!! It is his fault for not paying attention to his class and his teacher!! I can't believe he is such a moron, only to get his name seen in news!!
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11-01-2004, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by LilRavenclaw ^ My thoughts exactly. Its his own fault he failed..... Weird none the less. Exactly!
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Cause Hogwarts is bigger than any of us, of any of it's founders,
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11-01-2004, 06:38 PM
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| | Doxy
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Originally Posted by fona Sounds like a comprehension piece he was answering on. Of course it depends on the examination body in question, but in general comprehension pieces can be taken randomly from anywhere. I'd agree there- it was most likely a comprehension-type exam so he wouldn't have known what text would come up. On the other hand- I think he has completely over-reacted to the fact that Harry Potter happened to be the extract he was asked to analyse. Had something with extreme views (racism for example) or unsuitable material (graphic violence or sex), then I would feel sympathetic for him. The worst you get in HP is an Acromantula |
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11-01-2004, 06:48 PM
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| | Jobberknoll
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| I belive that it was his own fault that he failed the exam. If he had an issue with the books why couldnt he had said something before instead of afterwards. To me this seems like a stupid reason to fail an exam, and it is more likely that he made up the dilema just so he would have an excuse for failing, rather than failing cause he is bad at English. I wish I had an exam that is based on Harry Potter cause then i'd pass no problem, but oh no I have to do Romeo and Juliet. Its so unfair and depressing! |
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11-01-2004, 06:59 PM
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| | Mooncalf
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I respect his opinion to not answer a question due to religious believes. But, I think he should have said something way before time. Not in the middle of an exam. If I ever did that, my teacher would tell me too bad. I guess you going to fail. It should be the same way for this boy too.
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11-01-2004, 07:01 PM
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| | Crup
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If it were a pop quiz, or he'd expressed his concerns before the test, then I'd have some sympathy. But, as it is... I have no sympathy for him.
And getting international attention because you fail an exam is a bit much... I don't take issue with Einstein when I fail a math exam. *rolls eyes*
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11-01-2004, 08:22 PM
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Well I dont know anything about the English exam "system" but I find this very weird...and just...stupid...Sorry boy but well...its kinda your own fault...
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11-01-2004, 09:58 PM
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Thats stupid.. if someone protested a book like Shakespeare's A Midsummer Night's Dream would that even make the news? Everyone would laugh, but doesn't that have magic too? People like him just like to start trouble and get on the news.
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11-01-2004, 10:20 PM
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| | Bowtruckle
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Originally Posted by Gryffindor prefect I wish I had an exam that is based on Harry Potter cause then i'd pass no problem, but oh no I have to do Romeo and Juliet. Its so unfair and depressing! *gasp* Romeo and Juliet! OMG -- violence, murder, and suicide! Protest! Protest!
Actually, they should ban MacBeth: it has actual WITCHES!
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11-01-2004, 11:45 PM
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| | Clabbert
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Originally Posted by StephanieRiddle Oh boy not this witchcraft thing again.. really! when will people in the world realize that the "spells" are just gibberish mostly. They have no real power. Plus the kid is eightteen, he should know the difference between fact and fiction. I bet he never watches tv, reads, or anything cause of his problem with distinguishing reality from imaginary. no kidding *smacks self in forehead*
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11-01-2004, 11:53 PM
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| | Hinkypunk
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This might seem harsh but what an idiot! I would love to have a hp question in my exam! For my HSC we are doing king Lear, a supplementary booklet, colleridge poetry and a source of my own(Im going to do HP), all representing journey.
He could have written his views on it but argh  idiot.
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11-01-2004, 11:55 PM
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| | Ghoul
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strange kid, he should have told the teacher before the exam!! sheesh!! what a way to get on the news!!
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11-02-2004, 12:32 AM
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| | Bicorn
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wow some people should watch wat they are talking about!
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11-02-2004, 01:28 AM
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| | Bundimun
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Moral dilemma? Sounds like an excuse not to answer a question to me...
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