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03-30-2005, 05:34 PM
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A Military Magazine (Preventive Maintenance Monthly) ran a Potter spoof in May 2004. It featured characters such as Professor Snappy and Professor Rumbledoore.
As a result, lawyers representing JK & WB started investigating into a possible breach of copyright.
Dave Zweifel, a writer for the Capital Times, has now labelled their greed as having no limits. Quote:
Armies can't win, after all, if their equipment doesn't work and the equipment won't work if the soldiers don't know how to fix it. This becomes especially important in an environment like Iraq.
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The sergeant learns that preventive maintenance is necessary before every flight on a broomstick because magic wands need a light coating of oil once a week - all aimed at reminding the soldiers reading the episode that their equipment needs regular coating, too.
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But these days our corporate-dominated entertainment industry has started to rear its ugly head.
J.K. Rowling of Harry Potter fame, and Warner Bros., which produces movies from her immensely popular and hugely successful books, have informed the Army that it is messing with their copyright by having old Sgt. Half-Mast interact with Harry Potter.
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The Army has pointed out that no one is making any money off the magazine, it's just aimed at helping keep soldiers safe.
Dave ends the piece by saying, "Greed today, however, has no limits."
Ken Crunk, the editor of the magazine, has continually denied that the characters used, look anything like the Potter ones, “The drawings were done by a contracted artist for us. They do not look like any of the characters from Harry Potter."
However it was later reported, in February that, after talks with lawyers, the magazine creators had decided, "We are not going to use the likeness of 'Harry Potter' characters again."
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03-30-2005, 05:40 PM
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Honestly, who're they trying to fool? Lol.
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03-30-2005, 05:42 PM
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there is still news about this?? And I think greed has no limits, I think it is fair to say that.
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03-30-2005, 05:43 PM
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| | Poltergeist
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I agree that yeah they DID look like the HP characters, so it's stupid to try and deny it. BUT if they weren't making a profit, then why the fuss? After all, it WAS used for a good cause.
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03-30-2005, 05:49 PM
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In my opinion they looked like HP characters but, as Emma said, if they are not making a profit then why ...ah nevermind..-maybe it is because they want to make an example
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03-30-2005, 07:11 PM
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Y would they do that ?money Lol
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03-30-2005, 08:04 PM
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I think that this whole situation is dumb. I can understand that the writers of this magazine are trying to help out their soldiers and keep them safe, and I agree on how they did it. BUT they shouldn't continuously deny the resemblence of the characters as that is extremely obvious.
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03-30-2005, 08:23 PM
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Capitalism is disgusting and corporations are darn greedy, there is no arguing that. *takes out his shields* Bring it on!!!!!!!! It's the truth. That said, theft of intellectual property is still theft. One is morally and criminally wrong the other is merely morally wrong. You guess. A person has a right to earn money from what they create without fear of it being stolen, it isn't easy being creative, hence 'parodies' or 'knock-offs' otherwise we'd be inundated with original ideas. Quote:
Dave ends the piece by saying, "Greed today, however, has no limits."
"Idiocy today, however, has no limits either." And then you wonder why the first amendment is always under threat... So I say: Shut it you moron and go make something of your own.
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03-30-2005, 08:48 PM
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Honestly? It's the army for crying out loud. No harm, no foul. No one made a profit and it was for a good cause so our soilders don't end up harming themselves or anyone else and whatnot when out in battle. I can understand where the other side is coming from, and I don't think it's greed, but if SNL can make fun of HP without a fuss, then the US Army should be able to do this without a fuss.
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03-30-2005, 09:14 PM
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Honestly. J.K.Rowling is constantly involved in charity - she is NOT greedy! You know, if they had approached her first she might have supported it. It must be frustrating, as a writer, to know that your work is not safe.
And how can they say it was not based on HP!? Are they blind?
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03-30-2005, 09:21 PM
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J.K. is not greedy she gives a lot of her money to charity.
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03-30-2005, 09:23 PM
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You know, I think that the lawyers are just trying to get something out of them. It's like with the domains, they just want to have their name written on it, and if they do, they're happy. They'll even go ask far as STEALING it from you, like they did to me.
I hope that none of you ever have to go through Neil Blair, because honestly, he'll make sure that he wins the case, and you know what? He played me unfairly too. He said I couldn't get jkrfans.info because "JKR" is copyright, AND GUESS WHAT? They KNOW about jkrfans.com and do NOTHING about it. I think that's just so wrong and they should be sued over treating a fan unfairly, honestly!
I think that JKR's lawyers need to grow up. There's no possible way to own every J.K. Rowling domain out there. That's crazy and pointless, and if they're going to take it away from someone, at least PAY them before you take over and transfer their domain to their servers WITHOUT THE ORIGINAL OWNER EVEN KNOWING.
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03-30-2005, 09:23 PM
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fools. everyone knows JK isnt greedy...after all alot of her money goes to charity
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03-30-2005, 09:43 PM
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I don't see what the big deal is!! Who cares? It gives Harry Potter more publicity, and makes the army look better! No one is making money, so what?
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03-30-2005, 10:35 PM
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I have mixed feelings about this. Those of us who write HP Fan Fiction or create HP Fan Art use her characters and world and put in on the internet, but because we disclaim any right to any of it, and never ask for money for it, we expect not to be persecuted.
The Army did the same thing and put it on paper, though they never asked for any money from it. Why are they in trouble? I suspect we don't know all there is to this story, or we'd be seeing hoards of fan fiction archives and websites shut down as well.
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03-30-2005, 10:50 PM
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Still they should know not to use a published work to get that across without permission!
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03-31-2005, 12:53 AM
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I agree that it was sort of foolish of them to obviously make the characters look like those from JK's series, but come on. They're not making a profit. They're trying to help remind/teach people in the military how to use equiptment safely. I think this whole thing is a little ridiculous. I would have understood if they had been asked to apologize or reprint the issue with a different cartoon in or something, but suing them? I agree...greed really doesn't know any boundaries.
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03-31-2005, 01:27 AM
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03-31-2005, 02:18 AM
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I can see both sides to this. JK has a right to say who can use her storyline, she supports fandfics so I doubt any of us are in danger, and the army should have at least approached her.
On the other hand, it is a parody and, unlike Weird Al whom I've never seen sued, (if I'm wrong, please forgive me) even when he did it without permission (cough Amishparadise cough), and he gets paid for his parodies whereas the Army didn't. A slap on the wrist or a shaken finger to say "Don't you do that" would have sufficed.
But, I suppose, could the company who did the paper for the Army get paid? I would imagine they did and maybe it's that company WB and JK should be talking too...
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03-31-2005, 02:35 AM
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Those of us who write HP Fan Fiction or create HP Fan Art use her characters and world and put in on the internet, but because we disclaim any right to any of it, and never ask for money for it, we expect not to be persecuted.
The Army did the same thing and put it on paper, though they never asked for any money from it. Why are they in trouble? I suspect we don't know all there is to this story, or we'd be seeing hoards of fan fiction archives and websites shut down as well.
It depends on where you stand I guess. Fan fiction promotes literacy and creativity and the military carries guns. You decide. If you are a pacifist it's highly insulting.
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03-31-2005, 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Mikaela Honestly. J.K.Rowling is constantly involved in charity - she is NOT greedy! You know, if they had approached her first she might have supported it. It must be frustrating, as a writer, to know that your work is not safe.
And how can they say it was not based on HP!? Are they blind? I totally agree with this!
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04-02-2005, 10:15 AM
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Maybe they don´t want Potters to be used for military purposes? I wouldn´t ... I think politics and war shouldn´t be mixed with Harry Potter! Neither religion, since there are such many religions in the world, and if you support one, you are supposedly ignoring the others? I think no-one is supposed to take Harry Potter and use it for their own purposes.
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