stil making me angry and who is he to talk, he was a nazi child who killed innocent people! but then he saw god so thats ok then!! grrr someone shut me up before i say sonmethin really mean!!!

LOL... what an odd thread...

I don't see any viciousness in Harry Potter.

wow - if hes so into religion god said do not judge thats for god to deside weather or not the book (which is just fiction ) is bad or not and it seems to be doing very good . what about the davinchi code or whatever its called he has nothing to say about that..? oh yeah its not selling like harry

Let's stick to what he's said about HP yeah...if you want to discuss anything else about the guy then please go to the Charing Cross Roads forum.

I don't yhink HP is a product evil.

I agree, each to his own [opinions]. However, he is a leader, a religious leader at that, and therefore his opinions should have base. He hasn;t read the books, or studied or even try to understand it, no less read it in a non-judgemental way.

His opinions matter a lot to many Catholics around the world, and while most people can now think for themselves between what is right and opposing, his opinion would obviously matter. However, I hope they remember the words of John Paul II [R.I.P] and adhere to their own beliefs.

In my personal opinion, I don't think this pope is taking the time to think or understand what he is criticizing, and everything is based on whatever he is told or what he has been led to believe. This man seems to have no standing of his own, and this dissapoints me greatly. God's Rottweiler would be correct.


^ I accept the fact that my post may be offensive, but you can choose to correct me, and/or ignore my words, since it is only my humble opinion.

I however, support Harry Potter, and the other thing that he has deemed wrong, but will nto state her since I shouldnt at SS. XD

Oh yeah of course it is! We are all conspiricing! Blah!

So ironic that he makes up his mind after having read a book about HP which only talks about it in a negative way...
Excuse me but what century are you living in Pope?

-luvs Snivellus-

And I totally agree. I said on the previous page his statement holds no credibly and still feel the same. And James_Padfoot u made a good point, some Catholics are brain washed and listen to what the Pope says. I think he should be taken up on his comment, because he hasn't read not one book.

It's just a shame really...I'm...disappointed...*sighs*

Thats a shame becuase the old pope 'liked' Harry Potter!

Wow. I'm a born and raised Catholic...I go to Catholic high school after eight years of Catholic grade and middle school. I am devout and love my faith. ANd I like the choice of Benedict XVI.

However, I do think it is a bit unfair to call it evil if he hasn't read the books. I mean, Pope John Paul II, may he rest in peace, praised JKR. But if you really read the books, good values are taught in them, and good always overcomes the evil.

I do have to defend my faith, however, and say that I don't appreciate non-Catholics, who aren't associated with the Pope in their faith, always knock Catholics for listening to the Pope. And not just about HP. Obviously on moral and religious issues we are expected to follow him, and a good Catholic should. I think it is unfair to lash out at Catholics, saying we're brainwashed, just because you disagree with the Pope. Yes, some Catholic HP fans will stop reading because of what the Pope thinks, but that is their descision. Don't blame all Catholics of being brainwashed or closed-minded.

Actually, the Catholic faith has decreased because "Catholics" want to believe only some of the Catholic faith, but then ignore the other issues. ANd they are not real Catholics. A real Catholic will follow the teachings of the Church, all of them, however, I don't think the Pope said don't read the books...he just said they were evil.

Anyway, I am a bit disappointed because I don't think he read the books. I don't think he's "jealous" of JKR's fame like someone put it. I think it is a bit paranoid, however, a lot of products in this society can be considered evil. It's scary how morality and moral values have disappeared. Perhaps when Benedict XVI saw this, he thought that it could have been the world acclaimed Harry Potter books.

All in all, don't be so upset about it. Especially if you're not Catholic in the first place. If you're not Catholic, you shouldn't worry about it since you don't have to follow the Church or the Pope. I think it is unfair to knock the religion and its leader if you don't even know the grounds of the faith or if you don't belong. I'm not, you know, Baptist or Evagelical or Protestant or Jewish or Muslim or Buddhist, and I'm sure their are parts of those faiths that I could disagree with, however, I'm not about to go rip on them for being different or having different views on things. Yes, the Pope was harsh, especially if he didn't read the books, but there's no reason for non-Catholics to be so upset. The Vatican has not come out and said "don't read Harry Potter", therefore it's still okay.

Shannon

On the other hand, he's hardly going to say to read something that's 'evil'.

No, he's done something worse. It's a contradiction to condemn something when the gospels tell us only God has the right to judge and therefore condemn. He shouldn't do something which his scriptures don't actually permit him to do. Then again, nowhere in there does it say you have to go through a Pope to get to God either (but that's a whole other kettle of fish!)

I agree to this. Totally. Just let him say whatever he wants. As long as he doesn't ban HP. But, why does he have to focus on HP? I mean there are so many books and stuffs about witchcraft and wizardry and things like that, so, why "attack" Harry Potter?...He's gonna be the last pope anyway, 'cause the world's gonna end. (St. Malachy's prophecy..have you heard of that?) Offense intended. Just kiddin'! And besides, to be good or bad is in the person's choice. That's free will. (Then he or she just have to deal with the consequences.)

By the way, my apologies to those who're offended.

Why plp don't let HP alone???

It kind of makes me angry that people just judge it without analyzing it first to see what JKR's real intention are. Hey at least John Paul II liked it, he did some awesome stuff as pope.

It's Malachi, isn't it? And God told Noah that the rainbow was a sign that he'd never destroy the world ever again. There are alot of contradictions in the scriptures.

At the end of the day, he's ignorant like the rest of them. Let's just hope no-one will be silly enough to listen - I mean in relation to what he said about HP.

my thoughts exactly.

*nods* Yes I agree...It's a shame really...

This is true.

Okay, so the teachings of the Church aren't only limited to the Gospels...it's the entire New Testament. Plus, Jesus appointed Peter to be the first POPE in means of leading the people to what God wants. Also, I have to turn this around to other people. People challenge Catholics to go find our teachings in the Bible like our stand on abortion and homosexuality...which is easily found in the letters of Paul, by the way. But I challenge them to go find in the New Testament where it says we can kill millions of unborn babies everyday and that the practice of homosexuality is okay. So, please don't challenge our beliefs until you can PROVE we're wrong. I can go find passages if you want. I have no problem doing that.

Besides, he simply said they were a product of evil. ANd though he probably doesn't want us reading it, he still did not come out and say don't read it, and the Vatican has said nothing about it. Besides, our recently deceased Pope JOhn Paul II, may he rest in peace, said he liked it. Also, Pope Benedict XVI only said this while he was still a Cardinal, didn't he? Therefore, it was only the official opinion of a Cardinal at the time, not the Pope.

Shannon

Oh, my.... Well, naturally, he`s got the right to think what he wants, everybody does, but hello! I don`t think it will affect the fans very much in any way, though... Well, it`s definately an interesting take on it....

Yes but still...

Not to offend anyone but I didn't like the new pope in the first place and he looks kinda mean.