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04-24-2005, 10:42 AM
| | |  Pope: Potter is a 'product of evil'
The Sunday Mirror exclusively reports today that the new Pope Benedict XVI condemned Harry Potter, calling the wizard a 'product of evil'.
"Harry Potter books represent a potential for a subtle seduction that is barely noticeable and for that reason epentrates deeply...a subversion of Christianity in the inward being." - Pope Benedict XVI
Below is a transcript of the article (which isn't actually online yet).
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Unlike predecessor John Paul II, who praised author J.K.Rowling for living her life like a Christian, the hardline German Pontiff believes her books are a part of a conspiracy to undermine people's sense of good and evil.
The pope spoke out about the series after having been sent a book about the 'dangers' of Harry Potter by a Catholic sociologist.
The 78-year-old said, "It is good that you explain the facts of Harry Potter, because this is a subtle seduction, which has deeply unnoticed and direct effects in undermining the soul of Christianity before it can really grow properly."
The 265th pope, nicknamed "God's Rottweiler", also ranted that the Harry Potter books can lead to "subversion of Christianity in the inward being."
He spoke out after reading the book 'Harry Potter - Good or Bad' written by conservative sociologist Gabriele Kuby.
The outburst came two years ago - but went largely unnoticed outside of theological circles.
Catholics across the world are likely to be confused by the attack after the last Pope's spokeman said the Vatican approved of the books.
Fr. Peter Fleetwood said in February last year: "I don't see any problem in the Harry Potter series. They aren't bad. If I have understood well the intentions of Harry Potter's author, they help children to see the difference between good and evil."
Last night a leading Catolic theologian, who knows the new Pope well, said his views were motivated by an 'obsession' with the Devil and exorcism.
Uta Ranke-Heinemann, 77, said: "The Vatican is obsessed with the Devil and exorcism. It was John Paul II who said every baby in the womb is posessed by the Devil and only through exorcism can he become a child of God.
The Vatican feels it has the copyright on what is good and what is evil and it does not want anyone else infringing its rights to this monopoly. It will condemn anyone who tries to enter this territory without its permission."
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04-24-2005, 10:53 AM
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OMG!! not to sound disrespectful,but thats so close minded! It is genius! and everybody wishes that they can write something like that. | 
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04-24-2005, 11:07 AM
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Don't like the new pope. I think he's a bad choice. | 
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04-24-2005, 11:09 AM
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He's gonna die soon anyway. They chose him because he is old and wont live much longer... he is 78 i think;
Sorry i dont mean to sound disrespectful *cowers* thats just what i have heard
Also, they dont want a pope for like 26 years since there think it is long to be "pope"
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04-24-2005, 11:10 AM
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| | Mooncalf
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He is probably upset that his book (with the interview from 10 years ago) is not beating JK in any other country  he he 
At the end of the day its the teachings he has been brought up with that magic is bad. But we all know that you will fear what you don't understand. And he obviously doesn't understand that magic can be good thing.
After all, if God created heaven and earth etc etc etc.... then he must of used something to make it appear - I'm not saying God used magic to do so, but he had to of had some sort of power to create earth and the people on it.
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04-24-2005, 11:33 AM
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04-24-2005, 11:53 AM
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Oh dear!!!!!!  Here we go again....... | |
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04-24-2005, 11:58 AM
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Doubt he's read them, he's just jealous of JK Rowling's extraordinary talents at writing books, and is upset that his book hasn't beaten JK in most countries yet!! Like what K-Muggle said. Don't meen 2 be rude to the Pope or anything.. | |
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04-24-2005, 12:02 PM
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some say it's "a product of evil" some say it's not...
We all have the right to think diferent...
but... k'mon... I don't think he read the books.... | |
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04-24-2005, 12:07 PM
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kinda getting bored with this!!!
Do we hear him dissing dan browns davinci code?
i think that HP encourages kids to read and explore their minds. He should lighten up, no offence my holiness. | |
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04-24-2005, 12:07 PM
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I'm Christian but not Catholic. Honestly, if one is a true Christian, they would know to take the HP books as nothing but books - and would not be influenced by them. The books would not sway a Chrsitian's way of thinking, morals etc... Quote: |
The Vatican feels it has the copyright on what is good and what is evil and it does not want anyone else infringing its rights to this monopoly.
| Funny that. No matter what we are, whether popes, or patriacs, or pastors, we're all still human. Is this quote here saying, the vatican can say what IS good and what is EVIL?! This would be based on many individual's opinions, and all humans have different thoughts on everything - and in the end, only God knows what's what... GAH!
Not to sound rude, and to simply judge this new Pope - but, I don't think he looks like a nice person. The previous Pope (RIP) loked really... I dunno, he seemed 'softer' or whatever. I'll just shut up now. T__T
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04-24-2005, 12:09 PM
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Interesting ... I have understood that this new pope was the closest man of the former oneīs? And now he is condemning Potters, even though the Vatican has approved of the books ...
*sees with her inner eye John Paul II and Benedict XVI fighting whether Harry Potter is good or evil*
Umm, I think such people as popes donīt have to read anything themselves ... They have counselors for that, and this Benedict seems to have chosen this Catholic sociologistīs book as one in HP-matter! Sad, really sad, Iīd say. | |
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04-24-2005, 12:12 PM
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I guess everyone has a right to his/her own personal opinion, and perhaps this new pope sees things differently from his predecessor. I'm a Catholic and I see nothing wrong in reading the HP books, or any other kind of fantasy book for that matter. It's not the act of reading the things that is bad, but doing them. If this keeps on going, we'll be banning the idea of their being any terrorism at all in the world. It's bad too isn't it?
Saying that the books are completely evil though is totally ridiculous.  | |
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04-24-2005, 12:17 PM
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i am dissapointed. really dissapointed-about him. honestly, he's really conservative. | |
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04-24-2005, 12:29 PM
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| | Mooncalf
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would he say that If he knew how much thouse books have helped me over the past few months???
At the end of last year I was diagnosed with thryroid cancer and understandably I was upset so on the night that I found out I was in bed and I had my copy of gof on my bed-side table and I picked it up and started to read it!!!
I experianced for the first time the true magic of the books I was able to sink into the fantastically amazing world that J.K has created and forget about my problems for a while.
There is more than one side to these books there is was the encourageing witchraft thing last year wasn't there?
Lets not forget the fantastic emotional side of it and the funny moments!!! | |
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04-24-2005, 12:39 PM
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Funny that. No matter what we are, whether popes, or patriacs, or pastors, we're all still human. Is this quote here saying, the vatican can say what IS good and what is EVIL?! This would be based on many individual's opinions, and all humans have different thoughts on everything - and in the end, only God knows what's what... GAH!
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04-24-2005, 12:43 PM
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^ Wow. Someone actually read what i wrote. Btw, I'm really sorry if I've offended anyone..*hides* | |
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04-24-2005, 12:44 PM
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The books are amazing, and anyway it's someones imagination | |
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04-24-2005, 12:45 PM
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pffffft! i say, what awful drivel.
These religious folk waffle on about witchcraft and the devil and they would not know witchcraft if it bit them on their stupid bottoms. Harry Potter is not real witchcraft. it is FANTASY!!!!!!!!
And either way witchcraft has nothing whatever to do with the devil.
Oy vay.....i dispair.....*shakes head*
What nonsense. | |
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04-24-2005, 12:46 PM
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Well he's entitled to his opinion, and I am entitled to mine. He's a git(that's the nicest word I can say on SS). And not just for the things he's just said about HP thing, but he's views on other issues. "Product of Evil" psssffft....sounds like that guy that's says "Evil doers." Now is he saying this after having read the books, or is this a statement of a man who only knows that the books are about Wizards and Witches? Ignorance is a killer. | |
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04-24-2005, 12:50 PM
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Now is he saying this after having read the books, or is this a statement of a man who only knows that the books are about Wizards and Witches?
| It does actually say in the article that he formed his opinion after reading an anti-Potter book. | |
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04-24-2005, 12:55 PM
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|  is also a product of evil
Yeah I see it says what book he read, but my question is did he actually read Sorcerer's Stone? Chamber of Secrets? Prisioner of Azkaban? Goblet of Fire? Or Order of the Phoenix? No! You can't base your opinion about a series of books if you haven't read any of the books. "Harry Potter Good or Bad" was not written by JK Rowling thus showing his statements to have no credibility. You can't judge something you haven't read, but instead make an opinion on something someone else wrote about the books.
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04-24-2005, 01:08 PM
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| | Mooncalf
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Happy to see Ms Felton agrees with me 
See my post (#5)at the bottom of this page *giggles to self for cleverly advertising a previous post in her curent post* ..... *then realises that any reader noticed that straight away*....
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04-24-2005, 01:09 PM
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what a horrible thing to say !!!
he should have read the books or at least one of them before saying that...
you can't make such a strong statement after reading only an anti-potter book, go to the source!!!! | |
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04-24-2005, 01:11 PM
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| | Ghoul
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Wat can we do abt these....different people have diff. ideas.But has he ever read it????
since it has been considered evil,or against religion in some places,some people r prejudiced against it without realising how wonderful the book is.it's just mocking........ | |
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