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11-06-2006, 04:46 PM
| | | No age limit for Equus audience Equus producer David Pugh announced yesterday that there will be no age limit for audience members of Dan Radcliffe’s new play, despite graphic violence and explicit nude scenes. This decision goes against other West End theatres’ policies and is expected to raise some highly controversial debate. Quote:
We will offer parental guidance and we will point out that some scenes in Equus are unsuitable for children. But there will not be a ban on them attending the performance. Every child is different and they will react to the play differently.
I am not going to start playing the game where I say you can't come because you are 11 or you can't come because you are 14.
Who the hell am I to start saying that?
I saw the play at 14 and it changed my life. If I hadn't seen it I wouldn't be producing it now.
Equus, which centers around the relationship between a psychiatrist and his disturbed teenage patient, includes nudity and violent images of the teen blinding horses with a metal spike. Quote:
The nudity and those scenes are an essential part of the story. We are not doing it as an excuse to show Harry Potter's willy.
Daniel is fully committed to the role and he has not asked for any special favours.
While some critics don’t feel Dan’s acting ability is up to the challenging role, Equus author, Peter Shaffer, isn’t among them. For years, Shaffer has refused to back other productions of his award-winning play, but was so impressed by Dan’s audition that he fully supports this one.
David Pugh explains: Quote:
It wasn't a question of finding a play for Daniel to do because we knew it would be a hit.
I have been wanting to do a production of Equus for eight years and the problem has always been finding the right boy.
When Daniel performed for us at the workshop we couldn't take our eyes off him.
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11-08-2006, 02:10 AM
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I really don't mind the decision it's actually great that kids our age or smaller see the movie
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11-08-2006, 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Mari of the Ocean I really don't mind the decision it's actually great that kids our age or smaller see the movie Normally I wouldn't mind, but I would want, say, my 8-year-old to see the play. Don't have one yet, but if I did, you know? And I don't see someone very young understanding the play, either. It's not just about the psychiatrist trying to figure out the motive for the boy stabbing out the eyes of a horse. The psychiatrist is also in a midlife crisis, and as the boy talks about his experiences in worshipping the horses, and riding wild in the middle of the night, he begins to wonder what it must be like to have such freedom, and questions his day-in, day-out life. One of rituals and repitition. I won't get into the motive itself, as I don't want to spoil it for those wanting to see the play, but it's really pretty creepy, disturbing, and something I wouldn't want my child even trying to comprehend below a certain age. While I do agree that there shouldn't be an 18+ age limit, I do think that it should be carefully considered on how much a young child can understand or some such.
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11-08-2006, 05:55 AM
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|  Flourish & Blotts Mod Phoenix
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| T l Guitar ♥ l l Bed Police l S So then you wouldn't take them. Just because there is no age limit, it doesn't mean 11 year olds are going to be streaming in the doors.
All it means is that if parents are willing to take young teenagers, they can. It's a personal choice.
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11-08-2006, 06:57 AM
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| | Clabbert
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Originally Posted by Dainsie So then you wouldn't take them. Just because there is no age limit, it doesn't mean 11 year olds are going to be streaming in the doors.
All it means is that if parents are willing to take young teenagers, they can. It's a personal choice. True but parents aren't nessicarly going to know what Equus is and the kids are going to want to go see it because harry potter is in it. This is a very adult, disturbing, and great play. Our local theatre company did it and it still gives me chills hearing the word Equus whispered.
Ok so i just read all of the past posts. OH DEAR GOD!!!! Some you people make my head hurt.
Kids do not see worse than this on tv. Live theatre is so much more impactful than tv, due to the willing suspention of disbeif.
Second thing, Some of think that this play is just some violence and nudity witha story line, and that kids of all ages should be able to see it. Dear god if you think this then show your kids the first half 'full metal jacket' to part where gomer blows his brains out in the bathroom. that is the kind of metal twist this play has.
Please i beg you if plan to see this play (any version of it) please pick up a copy of the play and read it first before you take your kids.
Like Zellana said at our theatre you had to have a parent with you if you weren't 18.
There is more i want to say on this but it is late and my brain is shutting down.
~D~
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11-08-2006, 09:46 AM
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| Formerly: the.time.is.now   Erkling
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Elijah Wright Department of Mysteries | Bassoons galore! This is in response to the last comment. Quote:
True but parents aren't nessicarly going to know what Equus is and the kids are going to want to go see it because harry potter is in it.
One, what adult pays money to go see a play they know nothing about? They're going to be prepared. And, two - if a parent hears that "harry potter" is going to be in it, they're going to hear just as much that he's going to be naked. That fact is as famous as he is.
And about the content of the play ... while you may believe there should be an age limit, it is the PARENTS business if they allow their kid to go to/sneak off to this play. And for the kids that say "Harry Potter" is in it - they're probably too young to go anywhere without their parents anyway.
These are ethical issues, but as the law stands, it's the parents decision whether or not their child can/should attend. End of story.
Personally, I'd like to see it - plays are amazing. <3
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11-08-2006, 11:31 AM
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| | Grindylow
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that good, i think. coz children need to be aware. if they dont know anything, theyll just really be curios about stuff and theyll probably end up doing something worse than what we imagined!
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11-08-2006, 01:42 PM
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| | Giant Squid
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Emerson Gray. Fourth Year | G1GGL3R! *giggles* My GarBear Wow, can't wait to see that play! |
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11-08-2006, 03:14 PM
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I wish i could see it... it would be great if the play went national or something... i would deffinately go see it.
I thinks its a good idea to not put an age limit on it. Kids DO see much worse things on TV all the time and they have to be introduced to these kind of things sometime.
Its sounds like a very dark and dramatic play... god i wish i could see it.
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11-08-2006, 04:16 PM
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| | Clabbert
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Originally Posted by Hollywood* Kids DO see much worse things on TV all the time Read the play no they are not, not in this fashion. live theatre is very different from tv. One, what adult pays money to go see a play they know nothing about? a lot of my friends used to because we had people we knew in teh play and we wanted to be surprised about their acting talent. and since people keep compairing this to tv, which dear god people go see some theatre it's so much better and more involing than tv, i saw a man bring his 6-9 year old daughter to see the movie 'deep blue sea', for theose that havn't seen it is basically a jaws omage film very violent and gory, and was surprised when his daughter was scareda nd started crying. so don't tell that the parents are going to do thier homework i just hav ethat trust in people. They're going to be prepared. And, two - if a parent hears that "harry potter" is going to be in it, they're going to hear just as much that he's going to be naked. That fact is as famous as he is.
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11-08-2006, 05:00 PM
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| | Griffin
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Alright. I'll try to make this as PG-13 as possible.
I do wonder how they, both parent and an 8-year-old child (or younger), will act when "Harry Potter" comes riding down on a man's back, who is not dressed as a horse but wearing a wire horsehead (many productions have been using this method, so I expect this will be the same), talking about the ecstacy he feels from riding. Proclaiming his love for his "God" as he "brings himself" on the back of this horse. It's not about nudity. It's not about violence. If those were the problems then I wouldn't have an issue.
Spoiler: How many times on television do children see a guy in deep distress because when he tried to lay with a girl, he couldn't do it because he wanted the feel of horseflesh and not her.
My main problem is that parents will not know the full extent of what they're walking into. We went to see the play because friends were in it. Now personally, I loved the play. Even moreso because I love psychology. I do think that some younger teens, and possibly preteens will enjoy it and will be ready for it. I don't think parents will be well informed (since too much would spoil the end) when they should be to make a decision on if to bring their children. Like you, they'll only think about the horses being stabbed and the full frontal nudity.
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11-09-2006, 09:49 AM
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| | Mooncalf
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Dina Evans Potter Third Year | Just a few more reasons to watch it I think...
But I still can't...No matter How much I want to!
So Congratz to the kids who can and thought they weren't going to because of an age limit... *sigh* If only I could share your triumphant screams...
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11-09-2006, 02:59 PM
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a lot of my friends used to because we had people we knew in teh play and we wanted to be surprised about their acting talent.
I said adult, not teenager.
Well, I just personally think it's the parents decision, it its up to them if they want to corrupt/expose their children or not. Personally, I would NOT take my little brother and sister to see it, but the director is right - he's not one to say who is or isn't ready for the play. Everyone reacts differently, and if bothers you so much, why don't you go and ask the director to change it?
I'm sure he's already heard everyone else's viewpoint on the situation, but it's his decision.
I want to see it rather badly. It sounds awesome.
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11-09-2006, 07:51 PM
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| | Clabbert
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Originally Posted by the.time.is.now
I said adult, not teenager. And we are adults not teenagers when we did this. We went to support theatre.
I agree it should be the PARENTS decision. However no age limit means a group of friends that get together to hang out for the day can go see this without thier parents knowing. No age limit means that PARENTS don't have always the say because any one can get in. I go back to a previous argument: in our production if you were under 18 you had to have a parent with you. then it would be like what you say the PARENTS decision.
I would take my kids to see this if they were 16-17 ish instead of the 21months and 3months that they are now.
It is a great play!! Zellana and I loved seeing it. We just think that people should careful.
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11-10-2006, 03:28 PM
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Elijah Wright Department of Mysteries | Bassoons galore! Oh, sorry. By your grammar and whatnot I figured you were younger.
Well, we alll now know my opinion on these matters. We could easily resolve all of this by saying - if you're going to take your kids to a play, make sure you find out about it, first. That way, you can be careful - and if you think your kids are mature enough for it, good for them, and good for you.
I think the director is right in not placing an age limit.
Anyone know if there will be recordings of the play?
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11-11-2006, 07:27 AM
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| | Griffin
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Originally Posted by the.time.is.now Oh, sorry. By your grammar and whatnot I figured you were younger.
Well, we alll now know my opinion on these matters. We could easily resolve all of this by saying - if you're going to take your kids to a play, make sure you find out about it, first. That way, you can be careful - and if you think your kids are mature enough for it, good for them, and good for you.
I think the director is right in not placing an age limit.
Anyone know if there will be recordings of the play? Many of the theaters I know will record and keep an archive copy of the play. I don't know if they'll release it or not. Some will allow a person to see the archive later for a small fee. Luckily, if I wanna see our college's production I can just go to an instructor and ask to see the archive copy. But it never leaves the building. I have no doubt that an illegal copy will wind it's way to the internet, though. But I wonder how good that'd be. Trying to record sound in live theater is a bit different than capturing it from a movie theater. I do hope that with how popular this will be they'll release a copy for public distribution. I'd like to see how well they did, and the only other release of Equus was as a movie and it was terrible.
Btw, do forgive Draco his typing. You'd never guess he was the sole provider for a family and father of two, would you? He has an Associate's degree and everything. Writing is just soooo not his strong suit. I prod at him about it often. But we had gone to see the same production of Equus since we personally knew the actors, and the only warning we were given was that there was full frontal nudity. I do hope that they give more warning than that for this production, since I can just see a bunch of young fans pursuading their parents of "It's just a little nudity."
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11-11-2006, 10:40 AM
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| | Clabbert
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yes my writing horrible. I am very sorry
Here is what our theatre ( i say our because i spent 5 years working at it and Zellana spent 3 years working there) had up for it's production of Equus. http://www.citytheatre.net/shows/2004_equus.html
Has a synopsis of the play and a review. Enjoy!!
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11-12-2006, 01:36 AM
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Cool i really wanna see that play!!!!
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11-15-2006, 05:17 AM
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I can wait to see that movie
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11-17-2006, 06:48 AM
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it's not a movie, it is a live action play.
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