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EmmaRiddle · #1 (**permalink**) 10-24-2004, 08:26 AM

A biography of J.K.Rowling recently aired on A&E (J.K.Rowling, Harry Potter & me) which aired in the UK a couple of weeks before the release of OotP.

Fans will remember that in the programme JK flashed various files and pieces of paper, never quite holding them near enough to the camera for it to be able to read what was written on them.

However, Veritaserum reader, Sarah, managed to tape the programme and she paused the tape that moment. She was able to read some of what was written, which was a list of students in Harry's year and kindly wrote them all up (all those she could see.)

She typed up their names, house and their heritage (Muggle born or wizarding).

The list of students can be read here. There are quite a few characters who we've never heard of before.

In total there are 38 names, some of which are incomplete because JK's writing was hard to read. There are 38 names as this was all Sarah could read and doesn't necessarily mean there are only 38 students in Harry's year.

The list also allows us to see the heritage of characters who we already know.

M = Muggleborn W = Wizard

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Hannah Abbot - Hufflepuff - Muggleborn
Susan Bones - Hufflepuff - Muggleborn
Mandy Brocklehurst - Ravenclaw - Muggleborn
Lavender Brown - Gryffindor - Muggleborn
Milicent Bulstrode - Slytherin - Muggleborn
Stephen Cornjual - Ravenclaw - Wizard
Tracy Dawis - Slytherin - Muggleborn
Kevin Eheulhule - Ravenclaw - Wizard
Seamus Finnigan - Gryffindor - Wizard
Anthony Goldstein - Ravenclaw - Wizard
Amelaie Greengrass - Slytherin - Muggleborn
Wayne Hopkins - Hufflepuff - Wizard
Megan Jones - Hufflepuff - Muggleborn
Su Lue - Ravenclaw - Muggleborn
Morag MacDougal - Hufflepuff - Muggleborn
Ernie MacMillan - Hufflepuff - Muggleborn
Pansy Parkinson - Slytherin - Wizard
Padma Patil - Ravenclaw - Wizard
Parvati Patil - Gryffindor - Wizard
Sally-Anne Perks - Ravenclaw - Muggleborn
Dean Thomas - Gryffindor - Muggleborn
Lisa Turpin - Ravenclaw - Wizard
Zacharius Smith - Hufflepuff - Muggleborn
Blaise Zabini - Slytherin - Wizard

Source: Veritaserum.

hashim90 · 10-24-2004, 08:29 AM

Thats Cool! I don't know some of them!

EmmaRiddle · 10-24-2004, 08:33 AM

I think it's pretty ironic how there are so many muggleborn Slytherins. What hypocrites! Especially Milicent! Mind you, I suppose Draco, Pansy, Crabbe & Goyle, who are all purebloods would hang around together and probably shun the muggleborn Slytherins.

It's also good to have confirmation on Seamus and Deans heritage. One wizard, one muggleborn - might put to an end to those HBP rumors!

Exploding Aardvark 47 · 10-24-2004, 08:36 AM

Interesting how many of the Slytherins are Muggle-born...more than pure-blood, that's for sure...

And isn't Seamus Finnigan technically muggle-born,a s his father's a muggle and his mother's a witch? Or does one have to have both Muggle-parentage to be considered Muggleborn? And didn't Ernie MacMillan in CoS mention that he was a pure-blood for nine generations, so wouldn't that be incorrect there?

I didn't know a couple of them, either, mostly the Hufflepuffs and the Ravenclaws, of course, some of whom are mentioned in OOTP, but not otherwise...

Wayfarer · 10-24-2004, 08:37 AM

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Susan Bones - Hufflepuff - Muggleborn

We know Susan Bones to be from a wizarding family. Her aunt works at the Ministry. I think that list was very old perhaps just a beginning list of some kind.

EmmaRiddle · 10-24-2004, 08:45 AM

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And isn't Seamus Finnigan technically muggle-born,a s his father's a muggle and his mother's a witch? Or does one have to have both Muggle-parentage to be considered Muggleborn? And didn't Ernie MacMillan in CoS mention that he was a pure-blood for nine generations, so wouldn't that be incorrect there?

I'm guessing half qualifies you as a wizard and remember it goes back further than the initial parents - that's what makes Harry half.

And Susan Bones' aunt doesn't have to be wizarding to work at the MoM. Mrs Figg works in correspondence with DD and is a Muggle. Even if her aunt is wizarding that doesn't make her nience automatically one.

ie; She would be her niece if Susan Bones' aunt married a man who was muggleborn who had a sibling who had Susan.

Therefore that'd mean one of Susan's parents might have a sibling who married a wizarding person. But that doesn't automatically make Susan wizarding because that would make her an aunt through marriage.

Wayfarer · 10-24-2004, 09:13 AM

Susan Bones's grandparent and uncle's family were killed by Death Eaters. Since Edgar Bones is listed as Amelia Bones brother then Amelia isn't married. So Susan would be a pure-blood unless her Mum was a muggle then she would be a half-blood. The Harry Potter Lexicon lists her as coming from a wizarding family.

I did a bit of research on the Lexicon. I've put at the end of each name whether the Lexicon gives their family history.

Hannah Abbot - Hufflepuff - Muggleborn --none given
Susan Bones - Hufflepuff - Muggleborn--Lexicon lists her from a wizard family
Mandy Brocklehurst - Ravenclaw - Muggleborn--not given
Lavender Brown - Gryffindor - Muggleborn--not given
Milicent Bulstrode - Slytherin - Muggleborn--not given
Stephen Cornjual - Ravenclaw - Wizard--not list by the Lexicon
Tracy Dawis - Slytherin - Muggleborn--not given
Kevin Eheulhule - Ravenclaw - Wizard--not listed by the Lexicon
Seamus Finnigan - Gryffindor - Wizard--Half-Blood
Anthony Goldstein - Ravenclaw - Wizard--not given
Amelaie Greengrass - Slytherin - Muggleborn--Lexicon lists her as a Pureblood
Wayne Hopkins - Hufflepuff - Wizard--not listed by the Lexicon
Megan Jones - Hufflepuff - Muggleborn--not listed by the Lexicon
Su Lue - Ravenclaw - Muggleborn--not listed by the Lexicon
Morag MacDougal - Hufflepuff - Muggleborn--not given
Ernie MacMillan - Hufflepuff - Muggleborn--not given
Pansy Parkinson - Slytherin - Wizard--not given
Padma Patil - Hufflepuff - Wizard--not given
Parvati Patil - Gryffindor - Wizard--not given
Sally-Anne Perks - Ravenclaw - Muggleborn--not listed by the Lexicon
Dean Thomas - Gryffindor - Muggleborn--Muggleborn
Lisa Turpin - Ravenclaw - Wizard--not given
Zacharius Smith - Hufflepuff - Muggleborn--not given
Blaise Zabini - Slytherin - Wizard --not given

EmmaRiddle · 10-24-2004, 09:20 AM

I don't think the list is 'old' if it was she would not have been so wary of showing it to the cameras.

As said in the article though, the girl who 'translated' could have read that thing wrong but we never actually have confirmation in the book about Susan's heritage.

Plus wizarding on this chart, i've taken to mean either pure of half as it isn't really specific as to the quantity of wizarding blood.

I have a feeling JK's definitely going to have something to say about this.

We always knew there were more students than we knew about in the books and that she had a list of every student. I just hope she'll confirm/deny some things soon on her website.

Thing is though, when it comes down to it, the Lexicon versus JK is pretty hard match to predict.

potterfantatio · 10-24-2004, 09:32 AM

I wonder if some of these names will be in the sixth book

*Snivellus* · 10-24-2004, 10:11 AM

Hmm interesting...

What interests me is how many muggleborn Slytherins there are...

Wayfarer · 10-24-2004, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcella_Riddle

As said in the article though, the girl who 'translated' could have read that thing wrong but we never actually have confirmation in the book about Susan's heritage.

I think that the canon itself tells us the Susan comes from a wizarding family.

In the first book Hagrid tells Harry about his past, his parents and about the dark wizard Voldemort who killed them, along with other of the best 'good' witches and wizards, like the McKinnons, the Bones and the Prewetts. Book 1 (American) page 55 & 56.

Amelia Bones is the Head of the Department of Magical Law Enforcement according to Mr. Weasley. "Amelia Bones is okay, Harry," said Tonks earnestly "She's fair, she'll hear you out." OotP page 123. She is the one who questions him about having a Corporeal Patronus during the Wizengamot hearing. I think her present there defines her as a witch. OotP page 138-151

Moody show Harry a picutue of the old OotP and says this about Edgar Bones: "That's Edgar...borother of Amelia Bones, they got him and his family too, he was a great wizard." OotP page 174

Harry to Susan Bones in the Hog's Head: "Er--you don't know Madama Bones do you?" "She my auntie," she said. "I'm Susan Bones. She told me about your hearing. S0--it is really true? You make a stag Patronus?" page 342 OotP

After the Azkaban break out in OotP, Susan Bones, whose uncle, aunt and cousins all had died at the hands of some of them, tells Harry during Herbology while they work on Screechsnap seedlings that she now had a good idea what it felt like to be him. OotP page 550

Her family history is actually one of the best established of the minor characters in my opinion. We know more about her family than Seamus or Dean. She is at least a half-blood if not pure blood witch.

Ally_W · 10-24-2004, 11:47 AM

Hmm.. quite a lot of people are muggleborn. And yeah its strange that a lot of those slythies were muggleborn too.

hoh4twins · 10-24-2004, 11:57 AM

I was exactly thinking the same thing. Who knows? The HBP might be one of them

AndiC · 10-24-2004, 01:41 PM

hm... interesting list.
Personally, I want to hear more about Blaise Zabini...

10-24-2004, 02:11 PM

its cool

10-24-2004, 02:32 PM

cool, and so weird, muggleborn slytherins! Maybe some will appear in the future books.

EmmaRiddle · 10-24-2004, 02:36 PM

The whole Slytherin muggleborn thing isn't all that weird when you think about it. Voldemort is famous for being a hypocrite (promoting blood purity when he lacks it) so it comes as no surprise really that Slytherins might've turned to be not so pure.

But not all of them are evil and so maybe Draco and his cronies either shun or bully those within their own house who are not of the same blood as them. Draco does act superior alot of the time and that sort of fits in with it.

emmafreak · 10-24-2004, 02:41 PM

Hmm, interesting, I always thought Zacharias was in a younger year than Harry since he was acting insanely immature.

emmafreak · 10-24-2004, 02:45 PM

Oh, I also just noticed, there's 10 of each Ravenclaw, Slytherin, and Hufflepuff, but only 8 in Gryffindor...

ronslilpyro · 10-24-2004, 03:34 PM

"Thats awsome,and it is weird with the Slytherins, I would think the muggle born ones would be shunned. Its kinda sad." lol

katiesmith_151 · 10-24-2004, 04:07 PM

cool.

EmmaRiddle · 10-24-2004, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by emmafreak

Oh, I also just noticed, there's 10 of each Ravenclaw, Slytherin, and Hufflepuff, but only 8 in Gryffindor...

That's because the girl only manged to 'translate' 38 names.

If you look closely, 7 Gryffindors are listed. We know of the 5 boys in Gryffindor but only three of the girls (assuming there are more girls in that year of the house). After all, it would make sense to have a round 40 in each year group.

sm611 · 10-24-2004, 04:44 PM

I thought you had to be pureblood to be in Slytherin, but I guess it said something in the first book about if you have great ambition you can get in too.