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11-21-2008, 12:15 PM
| | | J.K. Rowling talks critics, fans & shippers
Melissa Anelli, author of Harry, a History, has released another new segment from her interview with J.K. Rowling, in which the Harry Potter creator talks about critics, fans and shippers.
In this piece, they begin by discussing the moment when Emerson, of Mugglenet, referred to Harry/Hermione fans as 'delusional' and the fallout that resulted from that. Quote:
"The fallout touched me, as well as Emerson. I had some pretty nasty letters but, you know, by that time I'd become used to the fact that people were so invested in this world, and felt such ownership of this world that I was not on a pedestal at all in their eyes, I was right in the thick of the fight. And it's uncomfortable on and off the pedestal, so you get used to it."
"I was not at all new to the concept of fan entitlement because that had now been going on since, I think, around 1999. As the Snape Debate hotted up, I would occasionally receive mail from fans that was instructing me on my characters. And you know what, that's very endearing when it comes from a younger person, and it's less endearing when it comes from an older person."
Jo continued on to talk about fans who became critics, instructing her what to do with her characters. Quote:
Do you know, it may have even been earlier. I remember getting a letter in the late 1990s, from an American woman who had heard me say on the radio when I had been in the States that I think it is a lie not to allow my characters, as they are plainly getting a year older with every book, not to allow my characters some sexual feelings. Although a fantasy series is not, I think, really the place, to explore issues of, for instance, the use of hard drugs or teenage pregnancy. To be ramming those social messages down people's throats when there are other social messages within the Harry Potter books, felt incongruous.
But still, it was unrealistic that Harry was going to proceed from the age of 11 to the age of 17 never having kissed a girl, never having had any kind of romantic feelings towards girls, is as much as I said on this radio program. That was probably the first evidence I had, of that kind of fan entitlement: a very vehement letter from a mother saying, "Do not do this. I want your books as a refuge for my children, as a place of innocence and security." And I felt, well, listen: this series started with the knowledge of a double murder. I never promised that this a world of innocence and security. Quite the reverse. I announced it as a world of danger and corruption. So, probably, that was my very first introduction.
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I had a letter from a grown man, a very articulate letter, who said, "Well, pardon me for thinking that you're a better writer than you are." That's literally what he said. "I assumed you were giving us subtle hints about Harry and Hermione, but no. Turned out you were being really crass and obvious."
She also talked about her experience of online fandom, and how she tends to avoid it. Quote:
It is unhealthy for me to go online too much. I'm very aware that you could spend your life reading message boards, and that's a very unhealthy place to go. So I'm really quite sparing in how often I go and look.
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11-21-2008, 01:16 PM
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Good read, I thought it was interesting how she limits herself from online blogs/ message boards. What is this whole deal with "Mugglenet" and her what happened?
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11-21-2008, 01:38 PM
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yes the "shipping wars" have been a bit scary at times particularly when "adult" fans take it so seriously. and it was all conjecture before DH came out.
but the H/Hr meltdown was pretty funny at the time for those who didn't take it too seriously!
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11-21-2008, 01:39 PM
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| | Poltergeist
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Originally Posted by White Train Station Good read, I thought it was interesting how she limits herself from online blogs. What is this whole deal with "Mugglenet" and her what happened? I did link the original story in the article. You can read more here.
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11-21-2008, 02:04 PM
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I personally thought that anyone who saw a Harry and Hermione relationship needed to read the book MORE CAREFULLY. Seriously, i thought these were the types that either wanted that relationship so badly they did not have any hobbies of their own OR they are the types that did poorly on reading comprehension in school. Hello....Ron and Hermione in GOB at the Yule ball and all the angst surround that?!?! Big fat hint, that one.
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11-21-2008, 02:22 PM
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What does she mean message boards are unhealthy?
It's sort of a huge compliment to the author if people care so much about the characters that they are upset if the characters act in a way they don't want them to. But it is still JKR's story! And it is convincing enough the way it is.
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11-21-2008, 02:36 PM
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Ahh I love Jo  very true; how is a story about a orphaned neglected child whose parents' murderer tried to kill him as a baby supposed to be a happy sunshiny bunny-filled story?
...and message boards are a great place to be if they're moderated well  Heh heh. She's just looking at the wrong ones
And to contact her and tell her what she ought to do with her characters?? The gall. She probably had it all planned from the start. You want it to turn out the way you want it? Write a fanfic  Jeepers.
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11-21-2008, 03:08 PM
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Great interview, its interesting to find out what Jo was thinking and such whenall the fandow florished and went one way and the other Quote:
Originally Posted by Patronus Charm I personally thought that anyone who saw a Harry and Hermione relationship needed to read the book MORE CAREFULLY. Seriously, i thought these were the types that either wanted that relationship so badly they did not have any hobbies of their own OR they are the types that did poorly on reading comprehension in school. Hello....Ron and Hermione in GOB at the Yule ball and all the angst surround that?!?! Big fat hint, that one. I dunno... Did you read the interview where Jo said that there actually was something between Harry and Hermione?
Did anyone NOT sense that something might have started between those two? The whole series was unpredictable, I dont really believe that anyone didnt think about Hr/H relationship, even though it was clear that it was going to be Hermione and Ron in the end.
''Delusional''...harsh! lol
And the people telling her what to write was funny, they are delusional to think they can do something like that.
Messageboards, unhealthy? Im hurt 
but i think that what she means is, that as a writer you shouldnt go somewhere where people analyse, talk and cristiscise your work because then youll get hurt about what its being said.
(*thinks about taking a break* Naaah!)
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11-21-2008, 04:02 PM
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Message boards unhealthy? lol....the irony.
I'm glad she defended herself against that mom who wanted the books to be "innocent."
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11-21-2008, 04:11 PM
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She is not kidding about the Harry Potter ships. I've seen fans get really hardcore about it. It can get scary.
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11-21-2008, 04:28 PM
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I agree with Patronus Charm. It was always H & R for me while I was reading the books. All their bickering was bound to lead to something.
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11-21-2008, 05:16 PM
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It must be so strange to have people fighting each other over characters you've created! No wonder Jo stays away from the forums!
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11-21-2008, 05:23 PM
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I respect Jo's decisions. And people are silly to fight over these characters and how they should act, it isn't up to them to decide that, after all!
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11-21-2008, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by EmmaRiddle I did link the original story in the article. You can read more here. I read your link and thank you for that but, to me it doesn't explain what the fall out was really over. Did they not post a spoiler alert like JK asked or was she not happy with the overall interview? Thanks for your help/
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11-21-2008, 06:18 PM
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11-21-2008, 07:17 PM
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That was interesting. Some of those letters sound a little weird though.
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11-21-2008, 07:25 PM
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Oh, I'm so excited that the book is out! It seems really interesting!
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11-21-2008, 08:20 PM
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That was a great interview! I would not say that I never thought about H/hr being together, but it became really obvious after GoF that it was R/Hr and of course after HBP it was definitely H/G(yes!). Anyway, I think it is very upsetting that some people think they know the characters better than Jo does.
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11-21-2008, 08:30 PM
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haha. If you go one Mugglenet, Emerson set up the Wall of Shame: Special Edition for all the hate mail he got about the 'delusional' comment. It's quite funny, actually.
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11-21-2008, 09:09 PM
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I dont pretend to know what JK meant when she said message boards were unhealthy, but perhaps she went onto message boards and saw the same people posting all day long, month after month, continuously, long diatribes here and there......yeah, then i would say those folks would maybe consider another hobby, but....to each his own. I check snitchseeker often, when i am in the office and at my computer, simple enough, but i dont check obsessively. Perhaps it is the obsessive message board posters she is referring to???
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11-21-2008, 09:16 PM
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I was always a Harry/Ginny, Ron/Hermione shipper, however I am a Dan/Emma one too! I didn't know it had become such a big thing on mugglenet. I guess I should pay more attention.
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To be honest, I was Harry Ginny from the moment I read Chamber of Secrets! I never even once read anything in her books that would have hinted her going anywhere near Harry and Hermione ending up together. Heck, look at my signature, you can see my ship, but I SURE wasn't going to write to JK and criticize her for not going after that one!
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11-21-2008, 11:59 PM
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I agree with Jo about the whole ship thing. Harry/Hermione might have been expected (Although, I myself never saw it happening at all. Harry and Hermione were just too ... they were just more like best friends than anything.) by some, but Hermione always had this weird (And totally cute!) connection with Ron, and Harry and Ginny always seemed to have a thing for each other.
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Yeah! Go JO!
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11-22-2008, 01:25 AM
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No matter what it is, people can always take it too far. They can be older fans, and still act immaturely and take it too far. I'm always surprised when I come about older fans of the series that just obssess over ship this and ship that but when I ask them if they realized about the historical significance of this and that, they're all *blink* It's like, come on, the book is more than just a fantasy, it's a lesson in an incredibly articulated and imaginative way.
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