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02-11-2005, 07:20 PM
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The French title to the sixth book, Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince can possibly offer a new insight into who the Prince could be.
There have been debates as to whether Half-Blood Prince means that prince will be of half-blood or whether it means he will be the prince of half-bloods - sort of like the 'Prince of thieves' concept in Robin Hood.
Céline has let us know that the French title for the sixth Potter novel is Le Prince au sang mêlé.
This directly translates into English as 'the prince who is a half-blood.'
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02-11-2005, 07:22 PM
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| | Bicorn
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Interesting with the french!
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02-11-2005, 07:29 PM
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02-11-2005, 07:39 PM
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| hmm...i dont get it, lol |
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02-11-2005, 07:42 PM
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| | Poltergeist
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Prince of Thieves, a prince of thieves. Prince of half-bloods, a prince for those who are half-bloods.
It's not complicated at all, rather simple really. The concept is a smart one.
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02-11-2005, 07:56 PM
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| oh!! now i understand!! thanks |
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02-11-2005, 07:57 PM
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| | Flobberworm
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i have no idea wat u guys talking bout!....well...some of it makes sense!!!
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02-11-2005, 07:58 PM
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Intresting....but ambiguous again! :}
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02-11-2005, 08:16 PM
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02-11-2005, 08:18 PM
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Well before i thought that it might be dumbledore b/c he cares about muggle/wizard relationships and stands up for muggleborns and half-bloods. Im not sure if he is pure blood or not. Of Coarse his brother Aberforth was a wizard to so it is more likely that Dumbledore is a pureblood. Then again, Colin and Dennis are wizards that have a muggle milkman father (Colin says in the second book that he didnt know about the wizarding world until he got his letter so this means that either his mom is a witch and didnt tell them, is dead/gone and never had a chance to tell them, or isnt a witch at all and the fact that the brothers are both wizard is a rare coincidence). So It might be Dumbledore if he is a halfblood. A regular halfblood wouldnt be the prince, it would have to be someone who did something for the halfbloods. Like advocated their rights and fought against 'racism' from the pure bloods.
I hope this isnt confusing. I can see how it might be... sorry if it is I tried to make sense of what I was trying to say. lol. Interesting article though. We'll have to wait to see if any new info surfaces. Thanx for the Info Marcella Riddle!
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02-11-2005, 08:42 PM
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| | Jarvey
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| Great News leads me to yet more questions and lack of knowledge! This is great news!
It parlty comfirms my thoery that the half-blood prince is Salar Slytherin!
The reasons I believe it is him are...
Rowling herself said the themes of Chamber (book two) and half-blood prince (book six) are similar yet totally different storys. So I conclude that the half-blood prince's main theme is going to be about blood! very interesting!
We know blood links (pure blood, half blood, mudblood),blood bonds, life debts (saving someones blood form spilling) is very important issue in the wizarding world!
The main theme is blood by the way!
The Blood bond, wand bond, brother bond, equal bond between Harry and Voldy is the underpinning theme in the series.
In Book five this bond was so important that we could not tell wear Harry began and Voldy end. They now share the same blood thanks Voldy's bulid a body potion in book four.
They share similar backgrounds and many other similaritys and things in common (rule breaking any one!). The list is endless! The only thing that separates them as poeple or wizards is the personal choices they have made!
Rowling also hint that Harry Potter discovers something very important in Chmaber of Secrets which will influnce the whole series.
I think it's that Tom Riddle worships Slytherin's belefies and values.
But we do not find out why Slytherin the founder has these views.
We also do not find out way Riddle who is himslef half blood idenitys with them so passionatly apart from his muggle father.
Why would Riddle a half-blood agree with Slytherin's hard line point of view?
Was Slytherin a half-blood too? I have wonder!
In fact in Book two we learn more about the future Dark Lord and not nearly enough about the man who had a huge influnce on him! Slytherin himself!
Barly any background apart from he set up the Hogwarts with the other founders and had a house named after him. He then had a huge fight with Griffindor about purebloods only been allowed into the school excluding muggle borns (mudbloods) and half-blood ? Defeated he left the school!
No childhood history or what he did after he left. He most have had a wife or Riddle would not be here! We are left with very little about the fight or any other inforamtion about Slytherin. Why has Rowling not told us any more?
Could it be the great Slytherin too was treated like Riddle and Potter by muggles who feared his powers!?! Before he entered the wizarding world as a half-blood? What made him hate Mudblood so? Why did he fear them? We are never told!
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02-11-2005, 08:50 PM
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they make a good point.. the Prince of the Half Bloods or the Half Blood Price... *wonders* thats very interesting... either way i can't wait for the book!
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02-11-2005, 09:02 PM
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to me it always seemed Half-blood prince meant a "prince" who is a half-blood, i dont see how it can mean pirnce of half-bloods, ah well we'll see...
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02-11-2005, 09:07 PM
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That's very interesting...I thought from the beginning that it was the prince OF the halfbloods...but now this disagrees with me. Too bad. I can't wait either way. I'm sure the book will be great either way. And that's a good thought, Anna Bella. I never even considered slytherin to be the hbp...but I think I like that theory.
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02-11-2005, 09:28 PM
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hmm.. very interesting..
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02-11-2005, 09:37 PM
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A prince over half bloods
Not over, that makes it sound like a Lord or something. But for, now that's a different kettle of fish entirely. mysticelf - The Creevey brothers are BOTH muggleborns. It must be a rare coincidence because only muggleborns were attacked in CoS and Colin was one of them. Anna_bella - It would be very fiting for Slytherin to be just as much of a hypocrite as Voldemort is.
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02-11-2005, 09:48 PM
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| | Poltergeist
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^ What you just did is considered spam. You were in the Q&A thread just a few moments ago, ask questions there.
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02-11-2005, 09:51 PM
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In Portuguese the book is called 'Harry Potter e o Principe Mestico' and that means Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince, 'mestico' means someone that is half-blooded.
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02-11-2005, 09:58 PM
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Interesting...but I though JK said that the Half-Blood Prince was half-blood?
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02-11-2005, 10:00 PM
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| | Poltergeist
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I don't re-call whether she's ever actually stated that as a fact. She's only ever claimed who it isn't so we don't know 100% for sure.
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02-11-2005, 10:14 PM
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thnx for the info........
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02-11-2005, 10:41 PM
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i can't wait to read the book.
hehehehe!
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02-11-2005, 10:42 PM
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02-11-2005, 10:51 PM
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I wonder if JKR verifies these titles?
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02-11-2005, 11:00 PM
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That's odd, cause I never thought of that. He might just be the prince of half-bloods, but I don't think so.
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