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12-13-2004, 11:44 AM
| | | Harry Potter vs Lemony Snicket Mikaela has sent me a snippet from the Ottawa Citizen (a Canadian newspaper - Dec. 12, 2004) in which Kelly Patterson has an article entitled "Blah Blah Blah HAHAHA!" about Count Olaf (of A Series of Unfortunate Events fame). Harry Potter is mentioned twice as a comparison to the Lemony Snicket series. Quote:
"With this kind of success, you'd expect the scenario to grow a bit tired, especially since, unlike Harry Potter and his mates, the Baudelaires evolve very little from one book to the next."
The article also credits J.K. Rowling with beginning a new reading trend, but also questions the Harry Potter series' survival. Quote:
"This makes the Snicket series the front-runner in the new "reading Renaissance" the Harry Potter stories sparked: As Harry and Co. head into less and less child-friendly territory, the 10-to-14-year-old set will increasingly turn to Lemony Snicket."
What this writer fails to realise is that readers have grown with the books since 1997 and so the series is hardly likely to lose fans because of the developing maturity of the novels.
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12-13-2004, 12:13 PM
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Harry Potter's way better.... more fans, more interest
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12-13-2004, 12:49 PM
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| | Bicorn
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| I like them both the books where abit confusing the 1st time, but when I read them the second time round they were better 'cos I understood them more,Im going to watch the film next week,It looks v.good but I will alwayd be a Harry fan at heart. -Helen
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12-13-2004, 01:25 PM
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| | Crup
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| In Love with Touz | | Lil Mikky-Mu Glad to be of service - thanks for using it, Emma! You're absolutely right, of course. The HP books have a timeless quality - their place in history has already been carved out because of a universal appeal.
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12-13-2004, 01:40 PM
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| | Poltergeist
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I prefer HP because the characters in ASOUE, as stated, don't develop or evolve (wonder how they'll dodge that in the films...) throughout the series. I cant stand words being explained to me, hello, I'm not stupid and the beginning is rather repetitive in every book. I know Jo Rowling introduces us back to Harry but she does it like in a sentence. I just find alot of things about ASOUE quite, what's the word, bland? Visually, it'll be stunning, but I'm not interested in it as a book.
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12-13-2004, 01:44 PM
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| | Banshee
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they keep ,entioning that the lemmony films knocked HP of the book chart.. it certainly wasnt in the UK..
I am going to see the film on Saturday to see what all the big fuss is about because maby i am to old but ti didnt like the first chapter of the book,,,
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12-13-2004, 02:18 PM
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| | Flobberworm
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dude they dissed Harry Potter!! >< I think the Popularity Is GROWING!!!
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12-13-2004, 02:23 PM
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| | Poltergeist
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Marcella Riddle Graduated | Kaplinski Rival Sorting Hat Machine Quote:
they keep ,entioning that the lemmony films knocked HP of the book chart.. it certainly wasnt in the UK..
That's most likely in the land of fads. Over here when we like something we stick with it. Nothing has ever knocked HP out of the book charts since 1997 and it's still in the normal list and not the 'childrens' one. They stuck it there in the US which sucks, I think it was because other authors were jealous and bitter about getting beaten by a 'kiddies' writer.
The film ASOUE features 2 of the first books, that I know for sure. The books are too small to make one film out of each so they have to combine them.
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12-13-2004, 02:25 PM
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| | Crup
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| In Love with Touz | | Lil Mikky-Mu ^ You're right, I think it is. Now that the "frenzy" has died down a lot of people are no longer stopping themselves from reading HP because they don't want to "do what everyone else is". I haven't even read ASOUE yet - there's little appeal compared to the complexity of HP characters & plots.
But I don't think they "dissed" HP. It was used for comparing, not as a put-down. The author points out the evolution in the HP story, compared to the relative stagnation of ASOUE.
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12-13-2004, 02:26 PM
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| | Banshee
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yeah they are really small.. isnt this film made out of 4 books?
lol imagine how long a film they would need to make 4 HP boks into a film... (LOL it would be like the LOTR Special Edition Trillogy)
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12-13-2004, 02:30 PM
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| | Bicorn
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Originally Posted by Marcella_Riddle I cant stand words being explained to me, hello, I'm not stupid and the beginning is rather repetitive in every book. I know Jo Rowling introduces us back to Harry but she does it like in a sentence. I completely agree. The part that annoys me most about the ASOUE series is that its almost like a dictionary. Unlike Harry Potter, it really is made for little kids, or at least for them to understand it. JK Rowling has no problem using even words with 6 letters without having to constantly explain what they mean.
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12-13-2004, 02:34 PM
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| | Poltergeist
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Like I said, I'm not sure. I've only read up to book 2 and I recognised bits from it in the trailers and stuff. I wouldn't be surprised if it's four. And tot hink people thought this would be in film-making longer than HP! Another 2 films at this rate and the ASOUE series of movies would be over!
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12-13-2004, 02:37 PM
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| | Banshee
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it depends how well it dies in the cinema.. i mean this isnt the best time of yrear to release a film the WEEK befopre christmas which is what they are doing in the uk...
but JK has stopped reminding you of things that have happened she assumes that if u are reading OOTP u have read the 4 books before..
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12-13-2004, 02:58 PM
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| | Poltergeist
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Well whether or not it does well, there are only 11 books thus far and if 4 are in one movie then only 2 more films will be needed to cover the rest of the ASOUE books.
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12-13-2004, 03:04 PM
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I dont know "A Series of Unfortunate Events" serie...so well...
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12-13-2004, 03:04 PM
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I am definatley going to see it. Jim Carey always makes a film great and this looks to be better made than the harry potter films and I think it will be bigger and better than the harry potter films.
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12-13-2004, 03:08 PM
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| | Grindylow
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I hate how people think we just "drop" the HP books when we're over 14.
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12-13-2004, 04:59 PM
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^ I agree!! I didn't START reading HP til I was 21!! ( I missed having to wait for more books til now thankfully) Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcella_Riddle That's most likely in the land of fads. Over here when we like something we stick with it. Nothing has ever knocked HP out of the book charts since 1997 and it's still in the normal list and not the 'childrens' one. They stuck it there in the US which sucks, I think it was because other authors were jealous and bitter about getting beaten by a 'kiddies' writer. I agree that the US has fads created/found almost everyday, butI know MANY people who would rather read Harry Potter any day over ASOUE. Most kids I think find the books easier to read because of the limited detail to them. Where I work I see those books go out more often lately, but almost everyone who bought them for their kids/family/others has already bought HP and read them. I know a lot of people here are trying to find more books similar to HP mostly to pacify them or their kids until HBP comes out. I, on the other hand haven't had much interest in reading them. I might, but I was told they are slow and like Emma said, seemed to be more explainitory. I would like to see the films though, because I am fond of Jim Carrey. The books at one point did look very intriguing, but they will never be as captivating as HP!!
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12-13-2004, 05:02 PM
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| | Poltergeist
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Yeah I want to see the film out of curiosity if nothing else.
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12-13-2004, 05:36 PM
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Sixth | Harry Potter 4ever in History! Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcella_Riddle Yeah I want to see the film out of curiosity if nothing else. ^ I totally agree... I am only going to see the movie because I am a fan of Jim Carey. I hate when people say as soon as kids grow up that they will totally froget Harry Potter. I can still remeber going to by the 1st book when I was 11. I remeber standing in line for almost 16 hours to see the 1 movie. I remeber every part of the books. I am now 18 (will be on December 15) and I will never forget Harry Potter. It's something that I will be sure to pass on to my kids. (If I have any.)... ASOUE has 11 books total... I didn't even get done reading the last one till I was about 15. It took me forever. The book was so slow I keep putting it down and not wanting to go back and read it. Harry Potter on the other had that only took me hours. The last time I timed myself reading GoF it took me a total of 6 hours. (+stoping to eat and go to the bathroom...lol) Harry Potter is so big and it's now and will forever remain a part of history. So many people have stories of how the books changed there life it's amazing to sit down with kids and adult around my age and hear what they have to say. I have dislexia (meaning: a disorder involving difficulty in learning to read or interpret words, letters, and other symbols.) and it is sometimes hard to read and interpret things. But I have seen now that I am reading better then I thought I would be and I think it's from reading the Harry Potter books over and over. Not because I am such a big fan but because I remeber when I got the 1st book I tried so hard to read it on my own I wouldn't let anyone help me. Took me almost 2 months to read it. But I did it and now I can read it in almost a few hours. Harry Potter will always be with us no matter what happens. IT'S HISTORY! you can't change it. They may never print it in news papers or magazine's again... But the fans will have the movies and the books and the stories they have made to all ways remind them of Harry Potter. |
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12-13-2004, 05:58 PM
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| | Jobberknoll
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HP is definately a more complex series of novels that gets the reader involved, and in my opinion is much better then ASOUE. But, those books were entertaining to read and credit should be given to both authors for getting the public reading.
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12-13-2004, 06:07 PM
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I'm taking my daughter on Friday to see Lemony Snickets. However, we are both such huge Harry Potter fans that nothing will ever be able to compare. I think that the fact that the Harry Potter series matures as the children age is a great thing and makes Harry Potter unbeatable by any other children's series out there. Being an adult I very much enjoy Harry Potter books, however, I am not inclined to read the Snicket books even though I'm going to see the film. It's just not the same as HP. HP is basically for kids but then there is something deeper going on that children won't get until they're older and mature enough to understand. HP is deep.
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12-13-2004, 07:20 PM
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| | Bundimun
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i want to see the movie because i read the books i thought the books were good but NOTHING CAN BEAT HARRY POTTER! also the lemony snicket movie is goin to be very undetailed beacuse thay combinded 3 books into 1!
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12-13-2004, 07:34 PM
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| | Chimaera
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Lemony who?
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12-13-2004, 07:52 PM
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Alice Boforfernan Second Year | Keeper of Ginny's Cuteness I have read all of the Harry Potte books out so far and all of the Lemony Snicket books out so far. But I am a Harry Potter girl probely since it has to do with magic. I love fictonal stuff. So I personaly think that HARRY POTTER is better Harry Potter rocks! Go HP!
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