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01-26-2005, 04:49 PM
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The Irish Examiner has a startling report, made by The Munich Youth Commission, that deemed Harry Potter as 'unsuitable for children'. Quote:
We are aware of the growing concern of parents and strongly criticise children’s agencies in Ireland like Childline, Barnardos and the ISPCC for their failure to expose the danger to children from these books.
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The novels tell a complex and dark story which leaves readers in a state of mind somewhere between anxiety and rage.
Life, in general, does that to people. Should we also then ban people from living? Quote:
Gabriele Kuby’s book, Harry Potter - Good or Evil, is in no doubt that the Harry Potter series is a long-term project to change our culture.
Long-term project to change culture? The inspiration came to her on a train and was completely unplanned... Quote:
Hogwarts, the school for magic and witchcraft, is a closed-off school of violence and cruelty, of curses and spells, blood sacrifices, disgust and possession.
Hogwarts isn't violent, Voldemort is. Life in general can be cruel and violent, it has its fair share of parrallel dictators. They mention blood sacrifice yet fail to remember the ultimate sacrifice for love. Quote:
The world of humanity is debased - the world of witches and magicians is glorified.
Not in general. The Dursleys are de-based because they have a sort of racist/uneducated/misguided attitude toward witches and wizards aka people different to them. Quote:
In these books no one wants to do good.
So trying to rid the world of Lord Voldemort is a bad thing? Quote:
Harry Potter books are all about media hype, greed and exploitation of children.
I personally feel sorry for Jo. She doesn't deserve any of this balderdash. And that's exactly what it is, balderdash.
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01-26-2005, 04:54 PM
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Wow, that stuff just makes wicked mad. I hate it when uninformed and/or closed-minded people attempt to "help the world". Just shut up and leave Harry Potter alone. Can't wait until I get one of these writers face-to-face.
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01-26-2005, 04:58 PM
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how can harry potter not be suitable for children it a childrens book for crying out loud
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01-26-2005, 05:02 PM
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| | Clabbert
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I can't believe that!!!! How can they say that about Harry?!!! Books that make the reader feel those emotions is what makes a good story! And blood sacrifices? Have they even read the books? Nowhere in those books, do I reacall sacrifices. Arrrgggh, this makes me soooo mad!!!! If I ever come up to someone who said this to me, they'll find their face two inches in the ground!
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01-26-2005, 05:06 PM
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|  desires irresistible waterCrup
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You've GOT to be kidding me!!!! (Comes to mind!!!) 
Have they really read the books? No one wants to do good? Anyone would hate the Dursley's is 'clearly' stated, thus, them not being the norm!
These people are unreal! Books are meant to leave you 'thinking'! 
I think they have caused the anxiety and rage by gracing us with their opinion!
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01-26-2005, 05:07 PM
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| | Clabbert
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Hahaha! Exactly! Stupid oppinion that is worth horse dung!
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01-26-2005, 05:12 PM
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Hogwarts, the school for magic and witchcraft, is a closed-off school of violence and cruelty, of curses and spells, blood sacrifices, disgust and possession.
Blood sacrifices? I'm sorry I must have missed that part.
As for the "violence and cruelty" walk into any highschool... I dare you. There is bullying going on there worse than what Malfoy could come up with.
"Curses and spells" Well, yeah, it is a school for witchcraft.
"Disgust and possession" Okay, so Ginny was possessed and Harry keeps having run-ins with Voldemort. But the "disgust" part always comes from the "Bad Guys"... Umbridge, Lestrange, Voldemort... just to name a few.
Yet another example of uninformed bias in the media.
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01-26-2005, 05:13 PM
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What the...? Quote:
Hogwarts, the school for magic and witchcraft, is a closed-off school of violence and cruelty, of curses and spells, blood sacrifices, disgust and possession.
What??? Quote:
In these books no one wants to do good.
Huh??? Quote:
Harry Potter books are all about media hype, greed and exploitation of children.
Eh???
Im not even sure we are talking about the same books here!
Im talking about the Harry Potter books which have inspired so many people and brought so many people together.
Im talking about the books who have touched so many people and are still doing so!
Im talking about the books which is written by an amazing author who is generous and a genius!
Which books are you talking about, The Munich Youth Commission???
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01-26-2005, 05:14 PM
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| | Poltergeist
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Originally Posted by pretty_kitty how can harry potter not be suitable for children it a childrens book for crying out loud It's not actually a children's book, people just advertise/classify it as one. Jo has said she didn't write them specifically for children, but for everyone. Quote:
And blood sacrifices?
Blood sacrifices feature in GoF when Wormtail takes the blood from harry to aid in Voldemort's 'revival'. There's also love-related sacrifices. Quote:
If I ever come up to someone who said this to me, they'll find their face two inches in the ground!
You shouldn't say that because you're proving their point, by using violent language.
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01-26-2005, 05:14 PM
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| | Lethifold
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oh what complete hogwash. somebody just wanted a bit of publicity and figured loading off on Harry Potter would be a good way to do it.
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01-26-2005, 05:16 PM
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I hate it when people judge things by the cover, or becuase they hear things, without really looking through it. I bet none of them haven't even read the first book, or at least seen the movie. Things like this just make me mad. 
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01-26-2005, 05:16 PM
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| | Clabbert
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They simply don't know what the he** they're talking about.
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01-26-2005, 05:28 PM
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It seems to me that they are simple looking at the book from the surface and not trying to see it for what it truely means. Well, the only one who knows what it really means is JK, and thank goodness she's still alive or more people would be thinking along these terms if she didn't explain herself at least a little.
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01-26-2005, 05:32 PM
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Blood sacrifices feature in GoF when Wormtail takes the blood from harry to aid in Voldemort's 'revival'. There's also love-related sacrifices.
Oh. Okay. Forgot about that... but it's still the "Bad guys" that are doing it.
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01-26-2005, 05:32 PM
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ugh, Some people can be so stupid.
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01-26-2005, 05:34 PM
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^ Exactly. They only pick what suits them - which is the subject matter without taking into consideration the context.
It's so obvious these sorts of people have never studied English Literature in their lives.
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01-26-2005, 05:45 PM
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Ok, this is nonsence, I believe that I herd that the Harry Potter books helped childern learn how to read because they wanted to read the books. This is completlely inopripriate. I think that what they are saying is completely affensive. I bet if you ask a child what they think, they would say that its a great book, not anything those people say. That just made me angry. Anyways, byers  | |
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01-26-2005, 05:51 PM
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| Muggle Enthusiast Dugbog
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I read much more foul, disgusting, and violent books filled with rage in high school than Harry Potter - those books were called "classics"!
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01-26-2005, 05:54 PM
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They took blood from Harry. Big whoop. A sacrifice is when someone, or something is killed for an offering. They need to learn what words to use before using them.
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01-26-2005, 06:00 PM
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I'm with you, muggles are underrated! Early fairy tales, classics, and most of the literature that we had as children were "more mature" (as in violence, etc.) than the HP books.
By the way, my parents allowed me to read whatever I felt like, and I'm as normal as you can get. And I also have a huge vocabulary.
why do people insist on blaming books for everything? Doesn't it remind you of the Inquisition, or Hitler?
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01-26-2005, 06:01 PM
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| | Lethifold
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Originally Posted by muggles_are_underrated I read much more foul, disgusting, and violent books filled with rage in high school than Harry Potter - those books were called "classics"! We just got done reading Fallen Angels, which is FAR worse than Harry Potter!
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01-26-2005, 06:04 PM
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| | Clabbert
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Sort of. If they want to bash something, why not the influence given by the Grand Theft Auto video game series. Four teenage kids and a dog were killed by each other because of it. I don't see any murders because of HP. I see kids, and adults alike, reading and enjoying the series. I don't know what I'd do without HP. HP and music are the two things that matter most to me in my life. If they banned either of them....The consecuence will be severe. I'm talking nasty letters to editors and papers, the works. It's just so stupid!
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01-26-2005, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by The Sk8tr Sort of. If they want to bash something, why not the influence given by the Grand Theft Auto video game series. Four teenage kids and a dog were killed by each other because of it. I don't see any murders because of HP. I see kids, and adults alike, reading and enjoying the series. I don't know what I'd do without HP. HP and music are the two things that matter most to me in my life. If they banned either of them....The consecuence will be severe. I'm talking nasty letters to editors and papers, the works. It's just so stupid! Oh no! the next thing you know you'll be alphabetizing your socks! Stop the Madness! Keep Harry Potter and music alive. *holds up protest-like sign*
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01-26-2005, 06:23 PM
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OMG i am not even going to put down what ia m thinking about this...
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01-26-2005, 06:24 PM
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When I read that I was speechless... My reaction is coming now 5 minutes after I have read the post... It's unbelievable... Harry Potter has given me so much! It has help me at a time where my ordinary life would hace been full of rage and god knows what else if didn't have these books... these books was a way for me to escape from the harsh world... the world of Harry Potter gave me the love I felt missing from my own life... It has helped me to be the person that I am today, it made me want to do good!
No one wants to do good???? Well... then I must ask what is it to do good? I believe that doing good is, caring for each other, loving each other, helping each other... but I could be wrong...
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