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Old 12-22-2003, 07:49 PM
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[img]http://www.snitchseeker.com/images/news/poa_hermione_80.jpg' align='middle'> Harry Potter and Human-racism -

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Betterhumans.com has an opinion piece on Harry Potter, Hermione and, "human-racism".

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Monsters in the Media

Popular books, movies and television shows are some of the few places addressing human-racism and the citizenship of nonhumans

The Christian right has been very upset with Harry Potter. Its constituents allege that Hogwarts celebrates witchcraft and juvenile disobedience. But they have missed an even more important reason to burn Rowlings' books: Her radical opposition to human-racism.

As an example, Harry Potter's friend Hermione becomes obsessed with elf rights when she discovers that elves are enslaved throughout the wizarding world, forced to work without pay, denied clothing and treated as subhuman. Yet elves are nearly as intelligent as human beings, if somewhat simple-minded in their slavish, magic-enforced commitment to their lives of service.
Hermione starts the Society for the Promotion of Elf Welfare, S.P.E.W., and tries to raise the consciousness of her classmates at Hogwarts. But her abolitionism meets with the same opposition that the opponents of slavery met 200 ago. "They're happy that way." "They aren't human."

Once Hermione is sensitized to the human-racism in the treatment of elves she begins to recognize it in the discrimination suffered by her werewolf and half-giant teachers. Then she makes a much more fundamental connection—human-racism against intelligent nonhumans is connected to the aristocratic racism against "muggles" (non-magical humans) and "mudbloods" (magical people with non-magical parents) central to Lord Voldemort's fascism.

Refusing to recognize the basic dignity of intelligent nonhuman persons on racial grounds is only one step removed from the belief that some humans are biologically superior to others. Antifascist leader and school headmaster Albus Dumbledore also makes the connection when he grants elves rights, hires nonhumans and reaches out to the despised giants, counseling "we are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided."



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uhhh...ok thats interesting.and pretty funny too.
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After reading that properly, I conclude that some people should find better things to do with their time, than to deeply anaylse Harry Potter!
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After reading that properly, I conclude that some people should find better things to do with their time, than to deeply anaylse Harry Potter!
lol! You're probably right! What's worse is people replying to them! But in fairness it is true what she's done, but cant a book just be a book?
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Old 12-22-2003, 10:46 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I totally disagree with this article.

He/she wrote that "some humans are biologically superior to others." This might be true but this does not mean that we are entitled to more freedom than the other creatures created by God. WE humans think that we are superior than others that is why we take advantage of the things around us which is the reason why there are a lot of fighting in the world right now.

I think that Hermione is doing the right thing. The house elves do not know that wizards are taking advantage of them because they were brought up to be slaves. Dobby did not want to be a slave and he IS a house elf. I think that it is only reasonable to teach the house elves their rights just like what Hermione is doing.
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Yeah but it is just a book....
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Its just a book,why do some people get upset about stuff that most people like?
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Its just a book,why do some people get upset about stuff that most people like?
*shrugs* some people like to pick out of jealousy, etc...many reasons really.

A politician was taking the mick out of JK today and yeah it was fair. Labour *the political group* have made JK a memeber of parliament thinking young people will vote for them now. But the young people aren't that gullible so I dont see why that other woman was having a go.

In conclusion, some people pretend they have a point, but they really dont.
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Old 12-22-2003, 10:54 PM   #9 (permalink)
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People shouldnt judge a book! and Jk wasnt trying 2 do that!
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People shouldnt judge a book! and Jk wasnt trying 2 do that!
We all know that. It's funny to listen to jealous people though. hehehe
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i think they have too much times in there hands to anaylize this really closely.. i wonder how much they get paid to do that lol
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ok, i completely agree with this article(on the racial problems, not the fact that HP books should be burned > ) i think that maybe JK put these problems in the books to teach us a lesson. and putting it in childrens books is a great idea! if they see this happening and can make the connection to the real world, and realize it's wrong, then maybe they can put a stop to it. however, i think Marcella_Riddle has a point though. if people would just stop analyzing the books everyone would be much happier.(i know i would :flowersmile: ) but oh well.

and one more thing, why can't some people like the book? what does religion really have to do with it? i don't mean to sound rude, but sometimes people just don't get it... :unsure:
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Unless a book claims God doesn't exist, then it has nothing to do with religion.

Harry Potter does not offend Christianity, in my eyes.
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I think having the blood diversity makes the books beneficial to the kids, it shows them that everyone is different and you shouldn't judge and discriminate because if you do you end up with Draco hair, either gelled back or a bowl-cut.
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No body? Hmm, well, aren't the "bodies" supposed to do somehing else? lol
Anyway, there is really nothing new here. As for the Christians, I can name a thausand books much worse than HP. Maybe without witchcraft, but still pretty anti-religious. And HP isn't antti-religious, anyway. lol
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It seems to me that most of you are missing the whole point of this article! Let me point out that whenever any article is released having the least bit to do with delving into the meaning of or ideas behind Harry Potter, an entire slew of posts are consumed with 'it's just a book' and 'stop criticizing and analyzing'. Gah!

It's a book. It's a series of books, actually. I think anyone, pro or anti-Harry, gets that. But it is an immensely popular series, that finds its home in millions of childrens' and adults' book cases and captivates them for a number of reasons. But the books also teach morals, as the author of this stellar article is pointing out VERY POLITELY, and in a non anti-Harry fashion. Books written for the younger generation often do include morals, and if JK added this anti human-racism element into the books as a moral, and now people are discovering and discussing it and using it as a weapon AGAINST those who hate Harry Potter, what's the problem?

And even if JK didn't add it in purposely (even though she probably did, looking at the evidence stated here AND considering the fact that she has stated before that she instilled the pureblood prejudice against mudbloods elements to teach readers a lesson), what's the problem with analyzing it that way? It teachs the readers, both young and old, the need for toleration of others.

And then you might ask, but why even analyze the book? Scholars and professors analyze books to learn about different styles of writing, purposes of writing, the effect of the literature on society and vice versa. Parents can also utilize this analyzation that the article is promoting to better teach their children to shun discrimination and human-racisim. I don't see any harm in that! It's not tearing apart Harry Potter, or making it amount to anything less...it's actually making it stronger, for you can use this morality in the books against those opposed to the 'immorality of the horrid witch-craft' and what not. Plus, it connects Harry Potter to every day life, so it lets people take a step back and look at themselves at a new perspective, and helps them decipher discrimination and racism more clearly...something this world needs a lot of today.

Hmm, well that's my crazed rant for the day... :sorcerer:
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...decipher discrimination and racism more clearly...something this world needs a lot of today.

Hmm, well that's my crazed rant for the day... :sorcerer:
that's a lot of writing. but i love how you explained everything. you have some very good points in there. (i'm sorry if i got a little off track in my other post, i do that sometimes )
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Siren_Black: Yeah, sorry, I got off there on the ranting track. Haven't had a real good debate in a while.

Yeah, I read your post and you said what I was thinking. I just felt like writing....a lot! Lol. So really what I just did was reiterate what you wrote, and yeah. Mine's too long for many people to be bothered to read, but at least I feel like I've contributed!
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I think the people who put that article out are just jealous of JK'S artistic flair with words, kinda like us, lol.
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After reading that properly, I conclude that some people should find better things to do with their time, than to deeply anaylse Harry Potter!
How very true!!
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* Grips her hair with her hands and screams *

Er...sorry, just getting a little carried away. Ahem, excuse me.

* Attempts to walk away, but comes rushing back. *

Okay, did you guys read the article? I mean, really read it? Because, Izzyd19, the author of this article is --supporting-- JK...........

And there's nothing wrong with deeply analyzing literature! It's what you do in English class and it's what college professors and English scholars do, all for a very large number of wonderful reasons! The Harry Potter series should not be a piece of literature that people expect to be untouched by literary analysis. If writing is being analyzed by scholars and authors and reporters and professors...it's a good thing, even if some of the critiques go against what *you* believe!
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I think that it is great that JK points out that racism is evil, which it is, in any shape or form. Also I think it is a good thing that she put it in books which children and adults can both relate to :flowersmile: .

I mean that is one of the main points of all the books isnt it. :unsure: Lord Voldermort hates those who are not Pureblood even though he himself had a Muggle for a father.

> Racism=Hate=Evil >
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