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02-15-2005, 10:48 AM
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A Valentine's Day teaser appeared on the Bloomsbury site and had fans going Potty over what it meant.
If you clicked on the 14th date slot an image appeared which looked like this:
As you'll all know by now, Potter fans are mad and many attempts have been made to see what, if anything, is underneath the blackness.
I think it's safe enough to say Bloomsbury will have thought of this before hand, they know fans well enough now to know this is the sort of thing they'd do.
Thanks to Nairebis for this image which has been made heavily brightened and contrasted.
As you can see, the position of the curve is in the middle, not the right place for if it were meant to be the starting of a word. That means it's either the middle of a word or a '?'.
My guess is on the question mark for the symbol. Whatever it is, is larger than the letters that spell Harry pointing toward it not actually being a letter at all.
Other people have suggested it could read Storge.
Here are some other versions of the same image.
Courtesy of Sebastian.
Dee, in the Leaky Cauldron comments claims that it read 'Storge' after she opened it in corel draw.
It is paramount to remember this was made by someone at Bloomsbury and not J.K.Rowling. While they, as the British publishers of the books, would've read through 'Half-Blood Prince' the person who created this might not have - as they are most likely someone who deals with the running of the website rather than the proof-reading of novels. It is also important to remember that Rowling herself did say anything that means anything will come from her and that we should only trust what we see on her official website.
It could also be from someone who isn't Harry. For example, if you fancy someone you very often write their name together with a heart and your own - sort of like the way in which James wrote Lily's name on his parchment during the O.W.L.S.
You can, of course, make up your own minds about this however I'd say we should expect a response to this, from JK, pretty soon.
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02-15-2005, 10:58 AM
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| That was tricky. My guesses were Ginny (Thinking the curve was for one 'Big" G )and then it was Luna , but well, i'll wait for JKR's words. But I must say, this is making me restless. I want the book. NOW!!!! Lol |
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02-15-2005, 10:58 AM
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| Keeper of Mr Tennant's specs hmmm interesting.. this is more like a JKR.com type thing or maby ti is just to keep us all interested!. |
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02-15-2005, 10:59 AM
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| You know my opinion on this Emma, there is no way you can confirm that it is infact an '?'. They would not have blackened it out if it was '?'. By the look of the curve (and my H/G bias) I say it's a 'G' for Ginny, it is set in the middle because that is the only way for the light to reflect the letter. It has to be either a C/G/S/Q/O. This, if it is the name of a girl, opens it up for Cho, Ginny or Susan. Or if you are a slasher, then it could stand for Snape. |
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02-15-2005, 10:59 AM
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Sixth Year | Oh how werid.. fans are going crazy over harry.. *Blinkes* Werid.. |
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02-15-2005, 11:00 AM
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| Hahah it could be the top of an R and read "Ron". Only joking of course!! Lol I think it is probably just a question mark  |
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02-15-2005, 11:05 AM
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| | | guys ur choices of ginny and luna being the love interests of harry are good but i think that he will go out with some one of the same year if ever he goes out. so HERMIONE might be a dark horse or it might be parvati patil. these r all guesses which r no good until we read the book. so be patient and wait for july the sixteenth | |
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02-15-2005, 11:06 AM
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| You can see how far down the line goes to the left, it doesn't stop so it can't be a '?'. |
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02-15-2005, 11:06 AM
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Marcella Riddle Graduated | Kaplinski Rival Sorting Hat Machine Didn't say I could but why would a word start in the middle? If that letter was the start then it'd logically be parrallel to to the 'H'.
Why would they put something meaningful under the black? Bloomsbury aren't stupid, they would've known fans would do this so they'd stick a '?' to a poke a tongue at them for being so silly to think they'd leave a clue there.
This should be ringing alarm bells, it's exactly what happened with JK's door. People thought that Storge stuff meant something but in fact something was put behind it IN CASE anyone did such a thing as to try and open the door and it turned out that they did. It's the same here, Bloomsbury would've known from that previous experience that fans would do this and therefore would've taken the same precaution. Quote:
I say it's a 'G' for Ginny, it is set in the middle because that is the only way for the light to reflect the letter.
So they did that deliberately wanting fans to see the 'letter'? |
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02-15-2005, 11:09 AM
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Didn't say I could but why would a word start in the middle? If that letter was the start then it'd logically be parrallel to to the 'H'.
Logically yes, but this is so that the light curves around to reveal the start of the first letter of the name. It isn't going to be exact, is it? If it was parallel to the 'H' (and the name was Ginny, for example) then we would be able to see 'I N' and that would give FAR too much away to the reader. Quote:
Why would they put something meaningful under the black? Bloomsbury aren't stupid, they would've known fans would do this so they'd stick a '?' to a poke a tongue at them for being so silly to think they'd leave a clue there.
They are throwing a bone to those obsessed fans like us! Its not like your average joe is going to paste it in photoshop and analyse it, it could be a thanks for being so loyal. |
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02-15-2005, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Lupin Jr You can see how far down the line goes to the left, it doesn't stop so it can't be a '?'. We can't see it doesn't stop because it's black after that. The letter or whatever it is, is larger than how 'Harry' is written so it's quite possible that the '?', if it is that, would be larger and therefore the lines goes further.
What you said about the light, this one has light going wider so it's not the only way for the light to reflect the letter.
I think it's them having a laugh and soon we'll all be kicking ourselves for believing something like this could mean anything. Need I remind you of the STORGE incident? |
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02-15-2005, 11:16 AM
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Logically yes, but this is so that the light curves around to reveal the start of the first letter of the name.
I don't see why they'd do that unless you think whatever's underneath means something and that the letter, if it's a letter, was intended to be seen. As I pointed out, the light stretches further on other images. Quote:
If it was parallel to the 'H' (and the name was Ginny, for example) then we would be able to see 'I N' and that would give FAR too much away to the reader.
Which is exactly why it doesn't look like a word, there's no letters left or right. Quote:
They are throwing a bone to those obsessed fans like us! Its not like your average joe is going to paste it in photoshop and analyse it, it could be a thanks for being so loyal.
They obviously would as so many people have done it! JK saw it coming with STORGE and Bloomsbury saw it coming with this.
People hacked behind JK's door and they were prepared for that so they were obviously prepared for this. If HP fans are willing to hack then Bloomsbury will have known that fans would've used photoshop. |
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02-15-2005, 11:16 AM
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We can't see it doesn't stop because it's black after that. The letter or whatever it is, is larger than how 'Harry' is written so it's quite possible that the '?', if it is that, would be larger and therefore the lines goes further.
Then we would see it stopping, they wouldn't be THAT cryptic if it was '?' Emma, lets be realistic here. It can still be a 'G' and match the size of the other letters. Quote:
What you said about the light, this one has light going wider so it's not the only way for the light to reflect the letter.
It's the most logical way for them to do it, I just find it odd that they give us this little hint of a clue for it to turn out to be nothing. IF it was a ? they would have nothing to hide. Quote:
I think it's them having a laugh and soon we'll all be kicking ourselves for believing something like this could mean anything. Need I remind you of the STORGE incident?
Say's the H/L! Lol, and if it is a STORGE thing then who can blame us avid shippers? It is nothing more then us proving JK right, we ARE insane. Personally, why hide it if you got nothing to hide? |
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02-15-2005, 11:26 AM
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| Harry& Ginny? |
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02-15-2005, 11:30 AM
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they wouldn't be THAT cryptic if it was '?'
They were with Storge. They also would if they wanted to have a laugh at how obsessed we all are and how excited we are for the book. Quote:
I just find it odd that they give us this little hint of a clue for it to turn out to be nothing.
Again, remember storge and that filler that was behind the 'do not disturb' door. Those were 'clues' that turned out to be nothing. It's a developing pattern. I'm just being logical. As I said before I was trying to see it but I can't because, going on past experiences, this just seems like another one of those jokes. Quote:
if it is a STORGE thing then who can blame us avid shippers?
Jo. She said only trust what comes directly from her site. We should know from the past not to believe these teasers that come from these sorts of people because they've always proven to be hyped-up nothings. Quote:
Personally, why hide it if you got nothing to hide?
To see 1936494028262934 Potter fans go mad off their heads. Jo surfs website, she's told us sometimes she cackles when sat at her laptop, we know she gets a kick out of surfing HP websites and seeing people go Potter mad. Why have the 'Do Not Disturb' sign if there was nothing to hide but a filler? Because she knows our minds. They know our minds. They know that we'll think there's something behind everything and so they make us think that and then trick us when we think we're onto something.
Alarm bells people! Seriously, I just don't want you to end up feeling stupid, like you've been punked or something.
Like I said before, HP fans are so keen they're willing to hack into JK's site for info so they know people will use photoshop to see behind this. So, they put something there in readiness for that. Everything so far that fans think they've 'revealed' through their smart alec tricks has been proven false. |
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02-15-2005, 11:33 AM
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| I think it might be a symbol or, probably a picture of a face. Maybe it is ron (think of fantastic beasts...) and his little comments. It could be a drawing of a troll....so ron jokes that harry loves the troll. |
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02-15-2005, 11:38 AM
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Marcella Riddle Graduated | Kaplinski Rival Sorting Hat Machine At the end of the day, I don't think it means anything because it'd just be silly for it to and totally unrealistic. They'd never reveal a popular ship was about to happen with 5 months to go till the release. Even if it was an L sort of shape, I'd be saying the same because it just seems ludicrous for something so fickle to have any real meaning when things similar to this never have before. |
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02-15-2005, 11:55 AM
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| Keeper of Mr Tennant's specs I think we are doing exactly what they wanted talk about it.! JK may come out and say somethign but she gets miffed off with the whole storage thing... |
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02-15-2005, 12:03 PM
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Marcella Riddle Graduated | Kaplinski Rival Sorting Hat Machine Exactly. All who go crazy over this are playing into their hands.
Jo couldn't do this on her site because she's fooled us twice before - storge and the filler and so we'd be more suspicious of her.
So Bloomsbury do it instead and people are less suspicious? |
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02-15-2005, 12:06 PM
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| Lol, you really don't have faith in human kindness do you Emma? I don't think Bloomsbury is making fun of their biggest consumer group. The storge thing was not from an official source, this is from an official source. And I don't think JK was really that mad about the storge thing, she said that fans have to know when shes telling a joke (like the voldy thing). I just find it unlikely that the official group would feel the need to hide a '?' when it can appear to be a different letter, possibly a clue. We got a treat on Christmas and we could get a treat on Valentine's Day.
If it's all an over reaction then so be it, I return to happily shipping H/G and we all laugh at our insanity, and if it's isn't and the official source is giving us a clue then I am very thankful.
Hmm, Storge was a trick about the title and so JKR gave us the real title. Maybe seeing as this is a trick about couples maybe JKR will give us a stronger hint about the couples (even though she thinks we have enough clues, which I honestly agree with. Couples arn't THAT important to the over all story. Harry could end up dead.). |
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02-15-2005, 12:13 PM
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Lol, you really don't have faith in human kindness do you Emma?
This being real wouldn't be kind, it'd be cruel because it'd reveal plots we don't want revealed yet. I certainly don't want the novel being spoilt for me, I don't know about you. Quote:
I just find it unlikely that the official group would feel the need to hide a '?' when it can appear to be a different letter, possibly a clue.
So then you also don't understand why JK hid the filler and the storge? When they could possibly have been clues until dissproved? Quote:
the official source is giving us a clue then I am very thankful.
It wouldn't be a clue, if it was I'd be agreeing with you but we're talking about a spoiler here which could make people not want to read the book. I don't want spoilers so I hope this isn't one. Quote:
Maybe seeing as this is a trick about couples maybe JKR will give us a stronger hint about the couples (even though she thinks we have enough clues, which I honestly agree with.
So if we've got enough clues then why this? Because for this to meaning anything they'd had to have co-oresponded with JK yet she said we had enough clues. Reason being, this isn't a clue or a spoiler but a tease. Quote:
Couples arn't THAT important to the over all story. Harry could end up dead.).
I know you don't believe that last thing
She could very well dissprove another couple or she might not. I'm inclined to think she won't.
This moves away from the pattern in the sense that is through Bloomsbury and not JK directly so I'm guessing the consequences will differ also. |
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02-15-2005, 12:25 PM
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| Well, you may see it as a spoiler, but if they don't mention another thing about it then it would just leave us not knowing. If it said something like 'HARRY *hearts* GRAWP' then that is a spoiler, if it said 'HARRY *hearts* *half a curvy letter that you can hardly notice*' then that is a little hint. Lol, but then again, as you have said, this could just be us over analysing. Personally, I think that seeing as it is an official thing (Unlike Storge which was not on Bloomsbury nor JKR.com) that I can accept it as a possible clue. JKR said don't trust anything unless it is on the publishers site or her site.
And yes, I think Harry's going to live, lol, I can live in denial all I want! I'd rather the glass half full then the glass smashed on the floor with water everywhere. |
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02-15-2005, 12:30 PM
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but if they don't mention another thing about it then it would just leave us not knowing.
True. Although that'd also be mean and cruel.
I'd see it as a spoiler if it did reveal a ship because a ship, especially in relation to Harry is a big thing even if it isn't exactly big in the context of the rest of the book. Quote:
JKR said don't trust anything unless it is on the publishers site or her site.
True but she also didn't say trust EVERYTHING from hers or Bloomsbury's website. After all, her site did have that filler which some saw as clues. |
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02-15-2005, 12:58 PM
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Lillian Jones Department of Mysteries | Zombie Hunter Korn-y it was probably just something a little random for valentines day and probably has little other meaning, other than a possible and vauge passing reference to Harry's lil fling in book 6.
If its anything important, Jo will let us know |
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02-15-2005, 01:19 PM
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| well whatever it is, its got us all mad!!!!lol |
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