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07-13-2005, 11:02 AM
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You know a new Potter book is due out when disgruntled journalists bare their fangs. Or, in this case, their pen. Emma MacDonald (Sunday Morning Herald) and Joel Stein (LA Times) join Robert McCrum (The Observer) in the latest ranks of Potter haters. Quote:
Some of my friends have read them only to themselves, saying the recent big ones are too long to read to their children. Isn't this a bit ludicrous, since the first book states it is aimed at "9-11 ages"? At first you couldn't put the books down; now you can't pick them up.
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Children notice she's been writing the recent ones not for 9- to 11-year-olds, but those 15+ who are Harry's "present" age. Is Rowling ignoring her original target-age group by making Harry a stereotypical teenager in a series that's now more a sci-fi thriller unsuitable for children?
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One reader, 18, who has read all five, says they lack the "many twists and turns" and exciting endings of the early ones. Was it out of greed to grab the much higher retail price, or did the publishers not suggest editing them for fear that Rowling would say "sod you" and go elsewhere?
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The recent books have many contrivances not in the first ones, and have also become a "political correctness battleground". Rowling never mentioned people's nationality.
Why didn't she leave it that way, since it was only the film Lenny Henry criticised for hardly having any non-white children? A girl called Angelina in book one became "a tall black girl" in book five.
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One girl said "generally you don't want the Harry Potter books to end, but with the latest one I felt relieved, like I'd climbed Mount Everest".
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The overlong books four and five had no laughs. Book five didn't even have a twist at the end, the back cover stating that what was in store was Harry being told by Dumbledore what he should have been told long ago and it would "turn his world upside down". Readers had already guessed the information revealed several books before.
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I don't want you to tell me how well J.K. Rowling writes, or that academics are writing papers about it, or that Harry Potter can be read on many levels. "Clifford the Big Red Dog" can be read on many levels too: One, he's a big red dog; two, if you read it after you're 4, you're a moron.
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In addition to Mama Ida claiming that one of the kids was hard to understand because she might have been English and referring to the special effects as "scenery," my grandmothers eventually made the one cogent point that other reviewers missed: The story is stupid if you're over 13.
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07-13-2005, 11:08 AM
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|  Luffs Lickin' ElbowsAshwinder
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Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but come on, some of what was said is just cruel!
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07-13-2005, 11:11 AM
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A culture that simplifies its entertainment down to fairy tales is doomed to simplify the world down to good and evil.
phft! 
Oh well, let them say what they want to. it doesn't really effect anybody. It's, well, their job...they get paid for it! Deep down inside they might really be liking HP 
You never know..*freaky tune* 
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07-13-2005, 11:12 AM
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What's with all the negativity and bashing of the books?
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07-13-2005, 11:15 AM
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 At Livejournal we have a name for these sorts of people: trolls. I don't think most of them really care about the series, or really know what they're talking about. They just recognize that there's a huge hype about the HBP release, and they feed off of it so that their journalism will recieve tons more attention. And whether or not they believe in what they're writing, or really care either way, it's their opinion, and they're entitled to it. Quote:
The overlong books four and five had no laughs.
Oh, and may I add that I thought the fifth book was the most hilarious one of them all? Meh. It's just a matter of opinion...these journalists' words are not authoritative unless people let them be.
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07-13-2005, 11:22 AM
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|  Portuguese ModeratorThestral
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Why are they doing this if they know that Harry Potter is one of the greatest book series? Man! These things are driving me crazy!!!
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07-13-2005, 11:26 AM
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| | Banshee
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ok 1 - Jo did not set out to write a childs book.. and of course the book is about a 15 year old at the moment so he wouldnt be dealing with the issues of an 9-11 year old would he..
But jousnalists liek these guys are jelliouse of Jk and her sucsess they cant really find fault wiht it but they will try anyway..
I dont care what these people say they probably havent even read the books they just think it is cool to hate them.. get a life guys... there is more important news going on than you dont Like HB because the books are too long!
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07-13-2005, 11:33 AM
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I don't know why they say these?? Every body is happy for the new book. I knew many adult friends who love the books too much...and as any one said Rowling didn't say that she is a children writer..She herself said that she was surprised because children read her books and she said that she didn't make these books for children.
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07-13-2005, 11:37 AM
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I wanna to say: Their opinion is stupid and just funny. I think, they said that, only because the fact that they wanted attention. They wanted be "famous" ... It's really___ I dunno what to say...  | |
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07-13-2005, 11:41 AM
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i don't think these guy's know what they are talking about ether.
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07-13-2005, 11:41 AM
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Sorry my post wasn't too clear... I wanted to say : "I think, they said that only because of the fact that they wanted to get more attention". Now I think everything's all right.
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07-13-2005, 11:46 AM
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Well I would say that the 5th book ,I thought, was a bit more complicated for smaller kids, but whats the point of writing a all thing about it! I mean the book is more for the kids around Harry age but it's not for that, that smaller kids wont read it!
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07-13-2005, 11:52 AM
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Some of my friends have read them only to themselves, saying the recent big ones are too long to read to their children. Isn't this a bit ludicrous, since the first book states it is aimed at "9-11 ages"? At first you couldn't put the books down; now you can't pick them up.
When I was younger, I usually read the short books in just one day. What worth is it to have short books nowadays? Normally, I always go for the big chunky ones. And English is not my first language, so english-speaking kids would have read it in less than a day too.
Meh, all these critics are getting way to annoying. Hopefully, when the book comes out, they'll just shut their mouths and hide in theri wee wittle howes.
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07-13-2005, 11:55 AM
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Spread love, not hate. Seriously, everytime something "makes it big," the press suddenly find numerous creative ways to bash bash bash it, just so they can get some infamy out of it. Can you say Rita Skeeter?
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07-13-2005, 12:02 PM
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The journalists and such are just trying to get noticed Harry Potter is a extremly popular book if you say something bad about it your going to get noticed it might not be in a positive way but bad publicity is better than none. But maybe thats just the way im looking at it. I also don't like how they talk for everyone like what they say are facts when they are just there presonial opinions.
Sry about any of the spelling mistakes its not one of my strong suits.
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07-13-2005, 12:08 PM
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Well I would say that the 5th book ,I thought, was a bit more complicated for smaller kids, but whats the point of writing a all thing about it!
OotP was about 15-16 year olds. Why should it be readable for little kids? 
That's something journalists fail to comprehend. As Harry grows, so does the reading level of the books. The vocabulary in PS is very different to OotP, as is the tone and general maturing theme of the books.
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07-13-2005, 12:12 PM
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Quote: | A culture that simplifies its entertainment down to fairy tales is doomed to simplify the world down to good and evil. | OoooK.... And a culture that pays attention to self-centered, biased, cruel people is...? Ha! Can anyone say Skeeter?
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07-13-2005, 12:20 PM
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| | Banshee
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lol Mikaela that is true...
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07-13-2005, 12:31 PM
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Children notice she's been writing the recent ones not for 9- to 11-year-olds, but those 15+ who are Harry's "present" age. Is Rowling ignoring her original target-age group by making Harry a stereotypical teenager in a series that's now more a sci-fi thriller unsuitable for children?
Well she has had to mature the series, its a progressive series, and we here today are the original target audience, the 15+ people who have grown with Harry. You need to adapt with changes, and thats what she's done, her main audience is the 15+, why drop all the millions of fans now, just to try to pull in another audience all over again?
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07-13-2005, 12:43 PM
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He said why not keep the target audience, instead as the trio is getting older the intended audience is too. Ok they are GETTING OLDER!!!!!!! come on no one stays as innocent when they are 15+ as they were when they were 9 to 11. Get real, I wonder if he really even read OOTP, not as good pbbtt...
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07-13-2005, 12:49 PM
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| | Banshee
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aye but JKR hasnt set out to write a child book so maby her target audience is adults like me :0)
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07-13-2005, 12:50 PM
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who the hell do they think they r and why the hell should we make them infamous i vote that we shut this thread and ferget them or start joel is my man instead of snape is my man  | |
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07-13-2005, 01:09 PM
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Alright, everyone is entitled to their opinion. I can respect that, but... I wont even say what I think about some of those comments. Those journalists just printed the worst comments they could find. I'm sure for all those negative quotes there are two or three times more positive ones. They just neglected to point those out. Very skewed in my opinion.  Bad journalism.
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07-13-2005, 01:11 PM
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Those people have: 1. Too much spare time on their hands and... 2. Can anyone spell attention seeker?
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07-13-2005, 01:12 PM
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In addition to Mama Ida claiming that one of the kids was hard to understand because she might have been English and referring to the special effects as "scenery," my grandmothers eventually made the one cogent point that other reviewers missed: The story is stupid if you're over 13.
Eh what...the story is tupid if your over 13,no it is not...is this person not right in the head.I love the HP books. -Helen 
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