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07-10-2005, 03:30 PM
| | |  First 'Goblet of Fire' review (spoilers)
As we previously told you, a test screening of ' Goblet of Fire' was due to take place in Chicago yesterday. A review of the film has now appeared on the net at the Oscarwatch Forums.
It includes references to characters such as Rita Skeeter and Voldemort and also refers to the graveyard and triwizard scenes, amongst others.
The writer does however point out that this was a rough cut of the film - the soundtrack was temporary and the special effects weren't complete; in some scenes green screens and wires could be seen.
She also says that the showing started at 6pm and she left the cinema just after 9pm -- however she does acknowledge that before she left she went to the toilet and filled in a form. This tells us that the film is probably about 2 3/4 hours long.
The film is also described as being 'darker' than Azkaban; the viewer says they think it'll get a PG-13 rating.
The full report can be read here but you have to read through the whole thread to get all the information.
However there are MAJOR SPOILERS in this. So don't read it if you don't want the plot/details spoiled. But I have to say reading this made me grin like a chesire cat. The film (especially the graveyard scene) sounds PERFECT.
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The pace was good, the acting was good, and the 14-year old in me has a terrible crush now on Ron, who I think is much cuter than Harry. Hermione didn't have nearly as much to do in this one, which was my only disappoinment.
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A huge part of the sky is taken up by the face of a ghoul. THAT was scary! (a little before that was a funny bit...they-Ron's dad, sister, brothers, Ron, Herminone and Harry-go into a tent that from the outside looks like a tiny pup tent, but from the inside looks like a palace. Also, the bunk beds there are floating above each other.)
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Ron's brothers are going to try and put their names (written on pieces of paper) into the goblet of fire to try and get into the tournament. There's an "age" ring on the floor around the goblet. Hermione says it was put there by Dumbledore so he would know if anyone under 17 tried to put their names in the goblet. They both drink a potion to try and thwart the age ring. They get through it alright and put the pieces of paper in, but the goblet spits them out, then Ron's brohters turn into little old men.
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After Harry is chosen for the tournament, the kids all wear "Potter Stinks" buttons. Very mean, surprisingly mean. I was shocked that Ron and the other kids didn't believe Harry when he said he didn't put his name in the goblet of fire.
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Brendan Gleeson's (Moody's) face was pretty messed up, lots of scars and a fake eye that moved. His makeup was very well done.
Brendan Gleeson/Moody made a big impression. There was one point when he had a run-in with Malfoy and turned Malfoy into a ferret. He said something like "I could tell you stories about your father that would curl your hair" (paraphrased) and I thought to myself I WANT TO HEAR THOSE STORIES!
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Miranda Richardson is a hoot as a reporter who keeps getting Harry's age wrong (she says 12, when he's actually 14).
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Neville had some very good scenes. First he was a victim of one of Professor Moody's spells (a spooky scene, not a funny one), then he had a charming scene where he was teaching himself to dance, then it looked like he was having a blast at the ball.
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The rat-like guy from the last movie was there, holding a thing that looked like a wizened baby. He cut off his own arm, and took blood from Harry's arm, and mixed them with some other things, dropped the baby-like thing in and out came Voldemort (these special effects weren't done yet).
Voldemort and Harry get into a wand fight. His parents appear and help him get away. He grabs the kid who'd been killed by Voldemort and grabs hold of the goblet, then they appear back in front of the school where everybody is waiting.
Harry is taken away by Brendan Gleeson (Mad-Eye Moody) , who turns out not to be Brendan Gleeson (Barty Crouch Jnr), but some guy's son who's helping Voldemort (Gleeson ((Moody)) is being held prisoner in a series of locked trunks.)
Snape and not Richard Harris (Michael Gambon) and Miss Brodie (McGonagall?) show up just in time to keep not Brendan Gleeson from killing Harry.
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Ralph (Voldemort) was GREAT! Very scary. I don't know what he'll look like in the end, because Feinnes had green dots all over his face, so I'm sure they'll CGI something that looks pretty horrific.
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A lot more happened than that (for instance, Malfoy's father was there at the graveyard too, no big surprise to me, even without having read the books).
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This one *felt* more like the 3rd one than the first two, very dark and forboding. The whole wizard world felt more dangerous, like someone actually could die (and someone did). I was amazed at the dangers that the wizard tournament put these students through.
Other things are also mentioned; there are no Quidditch World Cup Mascots and no Sphinx in the third task. However, Snape does reveal the dark mark on his arm. UPDATE: More reviews have popped up since this report. You can read about them in the following articles  | |
07-10-2005, 03:38 PM
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i read This on TLC (remembers it beign slightly diffrent) the person had no idea who the charactors were had not read the books other than Ps lol.. but it looks promising dosent it.
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07-10-2005, 03:38 PM
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Oh and by the way this report is by a non-book reader so that's why the names are a bit fuddy. But, to me, it sounds absolutely perfect.
It's not different, just there's probably been more pages added to the thread since then. I edited in names where they needed correcting.
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07-10-2005, 03:50 PM
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It seems to be really close to the book... except for a few details (Hermione's dress is blue (god!) not pink!) I really can't wait to see the film... We're in July and it's just in November... argh... too much time...
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Cause Hogwarts is bigger than any of us, of any of it's founders,
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07-10-2005, 03:52 PM
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I figured that the reporter had not read the books by the way she describes some of the scenes and being "funny" (i.e. the tent scene) when that sort of stuff is just normal in the HP world. But over all i think that the movie is going to be awesome......i just hope that it doesnt get a PG-13 rating like she was talking about because then the media would have a hay day with that......
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07-10-2005, 03:53 PM
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There's a lot more information in the forum -- there was too much to quote here so make sure you guys check out the oscar watch forums!
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07-10-2005, 03:56 PM
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Well, I'm definitely glad to know what some of the things will be included!! 
Thanks Ems!
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07-10-2005, 03:59 PM
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I'm still reading through the posts but I think it's going to be great! And it has to be because GOF is my favourite book, and it was thanks to GOF that I got hooked up to the HP series. I may not even be here writing this today.*shudder*
I'm not to sure about the ending though. I'm not going to say what it is, for the sake of spoilers, but, I hope it doesn't end like the one in POA. I only found PS's ending to be decent in my opinion.
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07-10-2005, 04:02 PM
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Unfortunately, the reviewer says she can't remember the ending, only that it definitely ends on a dark note. Which is good but at the same time I don't want a dreadful PoA-type ending.
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07-10-2005, 04:05 PM
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I like the idea of how Voldemort will be, at least I hope he'll be as good as I hope and I'm thinking he is.
I was also wondering about the Quidditch World Cup and other things. I guess the DVD would be longer than the movie itself wouldn't it? With the Lost Scenes and all.
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07-10-2005, 04:08 PM
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Yeah. I never expected the QWC to be long and to be honest, Quidditch bores me anyway. And it doesn't move the plot forward. I think we should count our lucky stars that it's even there  . Everything just sounds so wicked.
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07-10-2005, 04:11 PM
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I think that the mascots in the book were more of a spectacle like when Harry first goes into Diagon Ally. Didnt you just feel that the whole scene when we enter Diagon Ally for the first time in PS that it almost sets the mood for pretty much the rest of the film? I think that the mascots would make you have one of those notions that the movie would have a somewhat happy tone to it even while Harry is fighting the "bad guys" like in PS because he got closer to his parents.... Also i belive that in the book its fitting to have all of the mascots and everything because that is just something that you expect but a non book reader would have no idea what was going on, so for the confusion factor i think its good that they were left out but at the same time i'm going to miss them....
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07-10-2005, 04:12 PM
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The movie sounds amazing. I'm even more excited. I hope it doesn't get a pg-13 rating because then it might have parents thinking twice about bringing the younger fans to see it and I doubt they'd want to miss it. I wish they didn't show less of Hermione. She's one of my favorite characters. I'm looking forward to seeing the tents.
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07-10-2005, 04:14 PM
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I read this and was so confused by Miss Brodie. I was like 'Who?' It is probably McGonagol though. It sounds like it's an excellent film though. Can't wait 2 see it.
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07-10-2005, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by [the.time.turner] I wish they didn't show less of Hermione. She's one of my favorite characters. I agree with you there. Nevertheless, I think it's a good thing her character backed out a bit. I mean sure in POA she had to do the whole timeturner scene, but this book is specifically about Harry. There's more of Harry and Ron, but it's mostly about Harry really. Harry, and the difficulties he has to face because he is The Boy Who Lived. That will start preparing viewers(I'm mostly referring to people who watch the movies but haven't read the books), for what is to come in OOTP.
And also, POA in my opinion, had too much Hermione. Ron was simply put in the shadow and left there, playing a bit of a whimpering character. No offence Rupert fans, but that's the impression I got. Hermione was the all brave and witty, while Ron....well Ron was nothing like he's in the books.
Sorry if I seem harsh [the.time.turner], I don't want to be. It's just that I hate it when the movies don't stick to the books. Hermione is my favourite character too by the way. 
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I think Miss Brodie is a character that Maggie Smith aka McGonagall, has played before. I'm not too disappointed about the mascots; you've got to focus on the great positives - the ferret scene, the age line, all the fights, the tasks, the QWC, the graveyard and little things like the tents and characterisation and costumes. Roll on November!!
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07-10-2005, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcella_Riddle I think Miss Brodie is a character that Maggie Smith aka McGonagall, has played before. I'm not too disappointed about the mascots; you've got to focus on the great positives - the ferret scene, the age line, all the fights, the tasks, the QWC, the graveyard and little things like the tents and characterisation and costumes. Roll on November!!
Yes, that's who the person who saw GOF was referring to. Maggie Smith was the main character in the movie "The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie" in 1969.
About the mascots, the only thing is the lack of the Veela scene, which may explain better the large attraction boys have for Fleur when she arrives at Hogwarts. Because if I see the movie with my family, I'm normally bound to have to do an explanation of a number of scenes, because I understood them perfectly, having read the books, but they remain perplexed.
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No offence Rupert fans, but that's the impression I got. Hermione was the all brave and witty, while Ron....well Ron was nothing like he's in the books.
That's no reflection on Rupert really. He only does what he's told to do by the script and the director. But I agree; this film is very much focused on Harry. Harry learning to do things alone and face his 'demons', so to speak. Hermione's moments are really -- when she tries to make Harry & Ron make-up, when she helps Harry with 'Accio!' and the Yule Ball. The only other main focus is her ongoing UST with Ron which obviously involve the fights with Ron and Krum. Actually, putting it in writing, her part doesn't sound small at all.
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The movie sounds excellent! It sounds to me like it'll be the best out of the four. November's so far away!
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Originally Posted by Marcella_Riddle That's no reflection on Rupert really. He only does what he's told to do by the script and the director. I know. I didn't want to seem like I was attacking Rupert because he's a great actor and all. Apparently though, I only seemed to be attacking him even more.
But that's settled now, so....
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I cannot wait until it comes out! THANK YOU SO MUCH EMMA FOR THIS! It sounds like it'll be amazing! I can't wait! The graveyard scene, I bet, will be just phenominal! I have a feeling it might be PG-13...but anyhoo...
Lol. The 16 year old in me already knew Rupert is cute! But long hair DOES NOT suit Dan!! At all! Anyway, it looks like Hermione is downplayed like Ron was in the third film. Probably because there's no S.P.E.W for her...pity. Quote:
That's no reflection on Rupert really. He only does what he's told to do by the script and the director. But I agree; this film is very much focused on Harry. Harry learning to do things alone and face his 'demons', so to speak. Hermione's moments are really -- when she tries to make Harry & Ron make-up, when she helps Harry with 'Accio!' and the Yule Ball. The only other main focus is her ongoing UST with Ron which obviously involve the fights with Ron and Krum. Actually, putting it in writing, her part doesn't sound small at all.
Rupert, I think, does an excellent job with what he has to work with! Rupert's, in my opinion, the best actor of the three of them. But of course they focus on Harry...it's about him! I think Hermione is a very important and vital character, and should not be downplayed...but neither should Ron...especially Ron!
I can't wait until the fight between Harry and Ron. I think it'll be interesting to see how Dan and Rupert execute it. I think the pic of Harry yelling after Hermione is about Ron...you know, "Miss him? I don't miss him!" But anyway, it should be a phenominal movie! I can't wait to see what Ralph Fiennes has to offer the part! And Miranda Richardson will be just priceless! (too bad we only see her briefly. I hope they at least have all the nasty articles and the whole beetle thing...)
THANKS EMMA!
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eeeep! This is all so exciting! I can't wait for it to come out, thank God we HBP to pass the time. It sounds brilliant, they've kept loads in, havent they? I wwas sure they'd leave out some things like the age line and ferret - Malfoy.
It's going to be great!
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