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06-08-2004, 12:30 AM
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[img]http://www.snitchseeker.com/images/news/alfonso_cuaron_80.jpg' align='middle'> Cuaron says he is faithful - Summary:
Alfonso Cuaron has stated that he is faithful to the books Article:
Thanks to Wizardnews Quote: MEXICO CITY - The director of "Harry Potter (news - web sites) and the Prisoner of Azkaban" says he tried to be faithful to the books by J.K. Rowling (news - web sites) as he crafted the third movie in the Harry Potter series.
"As the books evolve, the tone gets more dark with each one," Alfonso Cuaron (news) said Saturday at a news conference following the film's first night at the box office.
Cuaron also directed the gritty coming-of-age film "Y Tu Mama Tambien" about two Mexican teenagers and an older woman. He took over filming the magic-infused Potter series from Chris Columbus (news), who made the first two Potter movies and cheery family films such as "Home Alone" and "Mrs. Doubtfire."
Cuaron said he had to exercise restraint to be faithful to the original Harry Potter tale but he enjoyed the same creative freedom in his interpretation as in his earlier films.
"I was here only to interpret the book. But everything is filtered through you," he said. Yahoo News |
06-08-2004, 07:11 AM
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Another quick comment, the GoF better be good, because it has my fav character in it. Can u guess which one?
Peace out and remember...
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06-08-2004, 07:15 AM
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| | Plimpy
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| Quote: Originally posted by lightstar1154@Jun 7 2004, 10:11 PM ~ Sarah
P.S. Um... if you thought a lot was cut here, PoA was about 400 pages long. Gof is going to be 1 movie too. Gof is about 780 pages long. Yeah... that is when I start to get worried, . [/SIZE][/color] ^^ But all i hope is that they make GoF 4 hours long, b/c if they can make titanic 4 hours, they can make HP 4 hours!! :ermsmile:
AND I CAN HOLD GOING TO THE BATHROOM FOR FOUR HOURS TOO! SO THEY SHOULDNT THINK ABOUT IT BEING TO LONG FOR PEOPLE TO GO PEE!
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06-08-2004, 07:26 AM
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they could always have an intermission ;)
peace out and remember...
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06-08-2004, 07:27 AM
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| | Bundimun
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well.. i'm a mexican girl so i think Cuarón made an excellent movie.. i'm agree with some comments u have done, and this is simple.. IF U DIDN'T LIKE THE MOVIE.. DON'T WATCH IT!..
what part of that don't u understand? i get it.. u think is not good and that stuff and it's ok cuz it's your opinion, but let the others make their own leaving off bad comments...
and i repeat.. if u didn't like.. nobody's asking u to do it.. ok?
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Cuarón es mi idolo y lo voy a defender hasta la muerte..que se note que no está solo, hay quien lo apoya y quien piensa que ES LA MEJOR PELÍCULA!!!!! VIVA CUARÓN!!!!!! |
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06-08-2004, 07:28 AM
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I was overall disappointed with the film. I thought the special effects were poor (the werewolf, dementors' kiss, patronus, etc.) and thought it was really chopped up. He took out many important details and added many new things that weren't in the book. I think he spent too much time on cinematography and the artestry, and not enough with sticking to the book. He didn't explain anything about the realationship between the mauraders. I saw it with some peopole who were confused because of that and with the choppiness of it. He completeley rushed the beginning and end, and the sets were totally different and odd. I also didn't like how he used different theme songs and didn't include the song from the first two enough. He put weird music in certain scenes (the boggart one, etc.) and it really bothered me. The first two movies kind of put me in the whole "Hogwarts world" and made me feel like I was there, and this movie made me feel opposite, if anything. I also didn't care for the actors who played Lupin and Sirius-- they are much different than I pictured. Hopefully GoF will be better.
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06-08-2004, 07:29 AM
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Every book that I've ever read has always been better than the movie. I think we should judge the movie against the other movies, but not against the books, because that's just not fair. Books are ALWAYS better than movies.
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06-08-2004, 09:00 AM
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| | Crup
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| Quote: Originally posted by dobby1989@Jun 8 2004, 02:24 AM He got most of the important ideas into the film which is great. There wernt that many things left out. This one was the best HP movie so far to me because he wasnt as childish with the whole thing. not that columbus was but this hp3 is almost like the turning part of harry potter cuz everything gets a lil darker starting here. anywho
What movie from a book have ya seen thats has had every single detail in it??? yah....
I loved POA it was the best so far cant wait til GOF!! Ditto. Cuaron was faithful to the book in the spirit of Harry Potter, and was as faithful as he could realistically be.
From what it sounds like most of you wanted to see the exact book on screen, no matter how good or bad that would have made the film. You wouldn't have minded if the acting was bland, it was a mediocre film, as long as they kept everything in it. I just watched CoS the other day and was so shocked to find that there is so much of just watching Harry wander round. There is no emotion or anything and I actually found it quite boring. There was hardly any actual bits I was honestly excited or interested in.
I would recommend that none of you go see GoF or heaven forbid OotP, because I can tell now you are going to hate it. Just think about how much is going to have to be cut to fit in into a movie! It is going to have to be seriously rearranged etc, so that it will still flow without the cut bits. The films are only going to get worse for you because there is going to be more and more cut out each time. I mean the first two were easier because there wasn't too much actual events they had to include, but GoF is nearly three times as long. I won't mind as long as they don't get rid of the essence and most important things, but there are going to be some major differences from the book.
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06-08-2004, 09:25 AM
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| | Bundimun
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i believe cuaron did a pretty good job with poa - the best of the three. can't wait for the next one to be screened!
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06-08-2004, 09:46 AM
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i agree tt cuaron did a pretty gd job.but he did left out quite a number of parts.i understand tt he is also trying to bring the movie to a different view but he should respect the first 2 movies and how they were directed. :/
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06-08-2004, 10:54 AM
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| | Poltergeist
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If this was about Emma Watson, the word bashing would be coming out, so why isn't it here?
Alfonso Cuaron does not deserve to be bashed. On the contrary, he did a great job with the poor script he was handed.
Stuff being left out is down to Kloves the screenwriter, not Alfonso. He just directs it, he has no influence on the writing of it.
So before people blow off their lids wrongfully, get your facts straight about who made the changes from the text to the script. Steve Kloves not Alfonso Cuaron.
To add fuel to the flames, Jo Rowling has said Alfonso was faithful. Who knows better than she? No-one. If she says he was faithful, then he must have been faithful to the true books because only she knows truly what her world is like and what her characters are supposed to be.
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06-08-2004, 12:30 PM
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| | Poltergeist
Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Adelaide, Australia
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Isabella Thompson | Quote: Originally posted by Marcella_Riddle@Jun 8 2004, 09:28 AM If this was about Emma Watson, the word bashing would be coming out, so why isn't it here?
Alfonso Cuaron does not deserve to be bashed. On the contrary, he did a great job with the poor script he was handed.
Stuff being left out is down to Kloves the screenwriter, not Alfonso. He just directs it, he has no influence on the writing of it.
So before people blow off their lids wrongfully, get your facts straight about who made the changes from the text to the script. Steve Kloves not Alfonso Cuaron.
To add fuel to the flames, Jo Rowling has said Alfonso was faithful. Who knows better than she? No-one. If she says he was faithful, then he must have been faithful to the true books because only she knows truly what her world is like and what her characters are supposed to be. Take a bow Em!
Honestly I cannot beleive you people? I was so shocked to read some of the comments that you have written in here. Some of them like this Quote: For him to say he was faithful indicates that is either drunk or aflicted with Altzimers Disease. And Quote: If his version of PoA is what he believes to be faithful, I pity the woman who is/was/ever will be married to him. Those comments are totally rude. How could you say something like that? That is getting a bit personal. Besides like Emma said, it is actually Steve Kloves, the script writer who should be getting the comments not Alfonso. Also with the special effects it isnt Alfonso's job either, it is the special effects team. Stop bashing him, just because the whole book word for word isnt on the screen doesnt mean you have to critisise the whole thing. Be a little opne minded. And also like Emma said, if JK thinks it is faithful then that is said and done.
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06-08-2004, 03:52 PM
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| Quote: Originally posted by ceci@Jun 8 2004, 01:14 AM I'm getting pretty tired of reading all of this bickering against Cuarón. He put his signature on the movie. Yes, he missed stuff from the books, however, he didn't miss fundamental stuff.
If you just didn't like the movie because it didn't go word for word or in the exact order of the book, then you shouldn't have seen the movie in the first place. A movie is the interpretation of the director, producer and writer.
Perhaps it was a little rushed in, but that was due to time restrictions. Of course, there was some scenes that were waaay to extended. For example Buckbeak's long flight. You have to understand Cuaróns signature, it is the photography and the nature what matters to him. The photography for Cuarón is the way of showing a lot of things in the movies that you cannot exactly put into actors' lines.
Please stop the bickering, it is awful to read all these criticism when JKR approved the film. I believe she even said it was the movie she liked the most. Well said - I agree with you. I have written a review on the movie and some things were missed out, but the basics were there and I think he was faithful to the book, just because a few things were changed and not completely explained, it was still in my opinion a great film. Also, that buckbeak flight was amazing, it made me go cold, the first two movies never made me feel like that.
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06-08-2004, 06:18 PM
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how could he be faitful he got rid of oliver and missed out half the stuff |
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06-08-2004, 06:35 PM
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Marcella Riddle Graduated | Kaplinski Rival Sorting Hat Machine Quote: Originally posted by candise@Jun 8 2004, 03:52 PM how could he be faitful he got rid of oliver and missed out half the stuff Faithful does not mean literal. Oliver was not integral to the plot therefore he was editable.
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06-08-2004, 11:59 PM
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Hey i no this isnt the right place to ask but does any body know when the 6th book is going to be coming out???
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06-09-2004, 12:38 AM
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Isabella Thompson | Quote: Faithful does not mean literal. Oliver was not integral to the plot therefore he was editable. Exactly. A lot of you are thinking that the book has to be completely translated onto the screen but it doesnt need to be. As long as they basic plot and storyline is there then thats all we need to know.
And also for you people who said that someone should have warned you not to read the book before the film, it was actually posted in this forum.
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06-09-2004, 07:45 AM
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movie did had a lot missing and was very teeny but not a bad atempt
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06-09-2004, 08:33 AM
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I have to agree with some that there was quite a bit left out and I wish it were a 3 hour movie to fit everything in. There was so much more I was expecting, which made it seem kind of choppy to me at some parts. :ermsmile: But then again this is a movie that has a main target audience of younger people so the attention span might not hold well for younger kids. I'm not saying that adults don't go, there were many including me, but well the kids are the bigger target...
Additionally, Cuaron, while he was the director, didn't write the screenplay. It was Steven Kloves who wrote the screenplay and I've read he consulted with JK Rowling, as well as Cuaron. And I think there was general agreement among them to get the main, main part of the story through and cut out on the side stories...I also have to say that the changes in cinametography and set changes were great and beautiful. It was more real (except for the part where they come of the womping willow, that looked kinda fake). There were longer scenes for the actors which allowed them to really get into it and show more and better acting skills. The added touch to how students wear their uniforms made it more realistic too. I really liked the more grown-up feel to it, while still keeping it Harry Potter. | |
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06-09-2004, 09:08 AM
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well, i believe that nobody is ever going to agree with everybody else because we all have different opinions and views as to the quality of the movie. we each see the harry potter world differently, and maybe Cuaron had a different image than yours of the book. because of that, i agree with ruperts_babe, some comments in here were extremely rude and uncalled for. he had his own image and apparently, J.K. agreed with his image.
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06-09-2004, 10:32 AM
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had cuaron gotten poa literally copied from book to screen...
i don't i'd want to watch the movie anymore.
so what if he missed out some stuff? [i mean, if rowling said ron pickeed his nose during a conversation with harry and 'mione, does that mean he has to get grint to pick his nose during that particular scene too? and what about dan radcliffe in gof? if he has too blush during the scene with cho and he can't, are they going to make him dip his face into a bucket of rouge???] anyway the stuff he missed out wasn't very important.
he did a fine job, i commend him for it. whee!
and yeah, blame it on kloves if you want to. not cuaron. shouldn't blame cuaron just beacuse he's more 'visible' to you [as the audience] than kloves is.
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06-09-2004, 11:37 AM
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| | Poltergeist
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Isabella Thompson | Quote: well, i believe that nobody is ever going to agree with everybody else because we all have different opinions and views as to the quality of the movie. we each see the harry potter world differently, and maybe Cuaron had a different image than yours of the book. because of that, i agree with ruperts_babe, some comments in here were extremely rude and uncalled for. he had his own image and apparently, J.K. agreed with his image. Yeah, we are not all going to agreee on everything./
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06-09-2004, 02:51 PM
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Cuaron is faithful.
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