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Old 04-07-2005, 10:37 AM
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In an interview with The Herald, Robbie Coltrane has hinted that he may not return for 'Order of the Phoenix' due to other more appealing roles in productions with The National Theatre of Scotland.

Robbie said the following in relation to OotP, "It's open to negotiations . . . I know the answer and it's 'I don't know'. That's that."

He declined to comment any further on the future of the role, instead praising the Goblet of Fire, although he admitted it was 'a very complicated plot'.

Some may remember an interview Robbie gave last August in which was said,

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I ask whether he will sign on for the final three films. “I don’t know. I really don’t know what the circumstances will be for the last three. I don’t know if I should be saying this, although if anyone has got any brains they’ll have worked it out, but if Jo Rowling hasn’t finished books six and seven within the next two years, the kids we’ve got at the moment will be too old to play the parts. And they may not even want to. So it depends on the variables.
Please bear in mind, this isn't official. Robbie has only said 'I don't know' in relation to the question of his return.

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Old 04-07-2005, 10:41 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Hmm. Its still a long way away before any OOTP filming starts, and as Jason Issacs said at the Empire Awards Ceremony, nobody has had a confirmed casting for the 5th film.

I'm sure Robbie will return for his role. After all, Hagrid doesn't have many lines in the films. I couldn't think of anyone replacing Robbie for the role!!

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Can someone tell me please how "It's open to negotiations . . . I know the answer and it's 'I don't know'. That's that." translates into possibly him not playing Hagrid? LOL I've been trying to wrap my head around this for a while and it just looks like another newspaper trying to sell by headlines. Robbie doesn't say one way or the other, so I don't even think it should be insinuated that he may not return... I think it'll just get people all upset if nothing else.
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Coltrane can't leave that who JK asked to play Hagrid and i can't imagine any other Hagrid , he said this before i am sure, that he might not be doing the potter movies anymore. I can't remember if it was in a newspaper or on a news site.
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he better be, it wouldnt be them same without him, JKR specially wanted him to play hagrid, what a privaledge!! he cant throw that in her face.

I can understand he wants to do theatre but that is always going to be around after harry.
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It would really be sad if he didn't return, but lets not jump the gun quiet yet, he said he was open to negotiations. Really, at this stage everyone is open to negotiations as they haven't signed anyone on yet officially. If he chooses to leave, which there is no really big sign of, he has all the luck in the world from his Harry Potter fans.
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Old 04-07-2005, 10:58 AM   #7 (permalink)
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aww please do the fifth film, but, as has already been said, though it would be a terrible shame if Robbie decided not to come back for the next film, everyone is still negotiating so we have to wait and see! He's a brill actor and an asset to the cast but at the end of the day, if he feels its time to move on thats his perrogative and we wish him well
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"It's open to negotiations . . . I know the answer and it's 'I don't know'. That's that." translates into possibly him not playing Hagrid?
Read the entire piece. It focuses on his roles in the Scottish Theatre and the appeal of it which is why doubts have arisen. Plus his statement doesn't exactly sound positive does it? It sounds as if he could be swayed by theatre.

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Plus the fact he has said that ^ in the past.

Come to think of it, the only real part for Hagrid in OotP is with the giants. Cinematically, that'd look great but if GoF is a 'very complicated plot' will WB complicate it further by including Hagrid's adventures in OotP? I think Robbie may be treated the same way as Julie Walters.
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Sadly somewhere along the line people have decided to summerize what the newstory sounds like rather than what's being said. Robbie may be talking about that, but that doesn't indicate he won't be back. I had to laugh because I read the headline and the first paragraph and what I just described above is exactly what the newspaper did. They summed up Robbie wanting to go into theatre and that he didn't know if he'd return to OotP and said that he might not. Bunch of rubbish. He may, he may not, but in no way does his statements indicate one way or the other. They're about as clear as Emma's and Jason Isaacs', actually.

All in all I think the headline should be, "Will Coltrane return for OotP?" and then go into the speil, I think it's less... biting of a subject line.
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The assumption comes from the fact that he stated they're asking him to do 18 months. He also stated he'd be tempted to do productions which would take place next year -- when OotP will be filming. I can see where the assumption came from, even if it isn't the best of ones.

Jason said he definitely wanted to be back though =P that's why IMDB.com had him down as having signed on for months.
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Oh, I completely understand where it came from, but I think it's just wrong to make assumptions at this point. You know what they say about assuming. And like stated, Hagrid's story isn't as huge in OotP and plus I think they won't be working as long once Emma hits 16 so the 18 months thing might not even come into play...

Haha. True with Mr. Isaacs. But still, just a point of refrence because he did say later that he didn't know what was going on.
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The restrictions don't end dead on 16 because she'll still have school and GCSE's to complete, but once June 2006 has ended, they should be able to speed up because all besides Bonnie and whoever plays Luna, will have finished school.

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Oh that was for theatre, not for OotP.
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Yeah, but that's not that far off once Emma turns 16. So fesiable it wouldn't take as long as the other movies...

Oh. Heh. Well, it's not entirely impossible for Robbie to do both. I mean, again, Hagrid's part isn't even that big. And what they *do* have to trim down for Ootp *shudders at the thought* probably even cuts his time down even more.
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It might not take as long filming, but editing and other stuff will probably take just as long. The technical stuff isn't going to speed up because the kids no longer have school. LOL

I have visions of Hagrid getting the chop. *hids from all the rabid fans*

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Yes, Chris Columbus, who was the director of the first film, asked me if there was anybody I thought would be good and I said 'RobbieColtraneForHagrid' in one breath.
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Well, that I know! LOL But I thought that might be what's keeping some of the actors at bay is the idea of taking so long to film. I imagine it's quite grueling to have to do a film for 18 months when they usually take less than that, depending on the film.

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Funny you should say that because that's exactly what HPANA has... that there's a possibility that Hagrid won't be in OotP. I mean, is he necessary? As much as I love Hagrid and the whole Grwap thing was fun... it's not really a necessity to the plot as of right now. Unless we find out in HBP that Gwrap is important... then I see him in it.
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NO he has 2 come back 4 it, it soooooooo wouldn't be the same without him, he is hagrid now. he cant not do it.
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It's not 18 months, at least filming isn't. The 18 figure came from the theatre. From what Emma said in that interview, it takes 11 months to film. But yes it must be gruelling.

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Funny you should say that because that's exactly what HPANA has... that there's a possibility that Hagrid won't be in OotP. I mean, is he necessary? As much as I love Hagrid and the whole Grwap thing was fun... it's not really a necessity to the plot as of right now. Unless we find out in HBP that Gwrap is important... then I see him in it.
That's uncanny because I didn't read it there. Weird. I don't think Hagrid is necessary either. They can just as easily have Dumbledore whispering hurriedly to a teacher that Hagrid is on a 'secet mission'. That'd satisfy the fans and save the crew a heck of alot of work. To be honst, that Hagrid chapter was my least favourite in OotP mainly because I read out loud with the accents but yeah LOL & Grawp wasn't the most lovable character IMO.
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I just seem to have 18 months in my head, but nonetheless, 11 isn't that much better.

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That's uncanny because I didn't read it there. Weird. I don't think Hagrid is necessary either. They can just as easily have Dumbledore whispering hurriedly to a teacher that Hagrid is on a 'secet mission'. That'd satisfy the fans and save the crew a heck of alot of work. To be honst, that Hagrid chapter was my least favourite in OotP mainly because I read out loud with the accents but yeah LOL & Grawp wasn't the most lovable character IMO.
I dunno, people seem to be really upset at some of the simplist of things in PoA been taken out or done differently... I think they'd have issues. LOL But it would satisfy me unless Grawp ends up being important to the plots of 6 and 7, then I might be a little indifferent to not including it.
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people seem to be really upset at some of the simplist of things in PoA been taken out or done differently... I think they'd have issues.
Like the Marauders? LOL Some changes make perfect sense to me - what director is silly enough to bombard an audience with information at the end of a film, information they may not remember when the next film arrives. I honestly didn't like Grawp and I really can't see him doing anything that important.
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LOL LIke that, or my personal fave is that Harry didn't get his broom in the proper place in the book. And people get really uptight if you say that if the author doesn't mind, we can't really complain... heh.

I can't see anything right now, but I dunno if JKR would introduce something for no reason. The only thing I can see that wouldn't be necessary to use in OotP is if Grawp helps in the impending war. They could get away with that.
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LOL LIke that, or my personal fave is that Harry didn't get his broom in the proper place in the book. And people get really uptight if you say that if the author doesn't mind, we can't really complain...
That's a silly change to quibble over but I don't think we should like the films just because JK does. We shouldn't feel bad about being dissatisifed because the author's given it the 'OK' - you know what I mean? (I'm having trouble expressing myself!)

I love character interaction so I hope OotP has lots of that. The DoM scenes were my absolute favourite so I can't wait for them either.
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noooo.. no Hagrid?
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That's a silly change to quibble over but I don't think we should like the films just because JK does. We shouldn't feel bad about being dissatisifed because the author's given it the 'OK' - you know what I mean? (I'm having trouble expressing myself!)
Oh no, not saying that... just that it's no reason to say that they ruined the book when the author doesn't feel they have. You can't really get upset when the person whose the writer isn't upset by the changes. Dissatisfied, but not upset. If that makes sense... It's quite early. lol

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I love character interaction so I hope OotP has lots of that. The DoM scenes were my absolute favourite so I can't wait for them either.
Yes, me too. And the emotional journey Harry goes through before and after Sirius dies. And you know with me anything R/Hr and Ron related. LOL
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Oh, I hope he comes back! I can't really imagine a different Hagrid than Robbie. The thing is, once you watch the movies so many times and read the books again you start picturing Dan as Harry, Rupert as Ron, and Emma as Hermione. It's the same for all characters. I still have problems picturing Dumbledore.

I really hope he doesn't go! He plays a wonderful Hagrid and he will be missed if he decides to leave HP.
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I hophe does get a part in OOTP but then he just doesn't seem nessecary.
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