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Old 01-04-2005, 12:31 PM
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Default 2004: "The Year of the Screenwriter"

The Baltimore Sun recently published their review of what they considered to be the best movies of 2004, focusing, in particular, on the screenwriters of these films.

They focus on Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban, for a part of the article. It was chosen as one of their top ten movies, calling it "A studio-made special- effects fantasy with the depth and multiple hues of a location masterpiece like The Black Stallion. And then there's the crystalline script."

The review focused on mainly on the scriptwriters of each film chosen, but the longest section was devoted to Steve Kloves who penned PoA, the movie.

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"Chinatown it ain't," commented the modest Kloves about his script for Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban. "But here it is," he said, mailing it off six months after I first requested it. I was curious to read it, partly because the director, Alfonso Cuaron, had won a huge share of the credit for the leap the Potter series took with its third movie.
As soon as I got it, I turned to the scene that had affected me more than any other: a revealing talk between Harry (Daniel Radcliffe) and his rather worn-looking professor of defenses against the dark arts, R.J. Lupin (David Thewliss). Everything I had experienced in the theater that added depth and poignancy to the story was there in dialogue and description on the page.

"The first time I saw you, Harry, I recognized you immediately," confesses Lupin. "Not by your scar. By your eyes. They're your mother Lily's; yes, I knew her. She was there for me at a time when no one else was. She was not only a singularly gifted witch but an uncommonly kind woman. She had a way of seeing the beauty in whoever she met, even - and perhaps most especially - when that person couldn't see it in themselves."

With a writer like Kloves, brilliance doesn't always lie in extraordinary language (though his Wonder Boys script abounded in it). For Harry Potter, he placed plain words in the right order to open up new worlds or closed chapters of history."
However, to this fan that piece of dialogue sounded disjointed particularly as Harry was discussing hearing his mother's dying screams and how the dementors affect him which really seem to be bear no relation to whatever Lupin's thoughts on Harry's mother were -- no matter how beautifully the words were written.

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Hmm... even though Lupin's dialogue has no real connection to Harry's problem in that scene, I think that he said it because the dialogue has a hidden connection somewhere. I mean, doesn't JK also approves of the dialogues in the movie?

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Nope. JK has no contractual rights over the movies whatsoever. Heyman said that before. She worked on the first script but if she did help out with them properly, she'd be credited for it. Since she's not, she doesn't.

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Hmm... well, personally, I don't have much of an opinion of Kloves...
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Hmm... well, personally, I don't have much of an opinion of Kloves...
Neither do I and I am personally glad that it will be a new scriptwriter for movie 5. But for now we will have to suffer another film full of line stealing or good lines with no connections what so ever to the scene due to the fact that he also is doing movie four. I dont think that it was the scriptwriter that made the films what they were, I think it is the actors and the special effects. But thats my opinion.
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Aside from the fact that it's an adaptation, not to mention a bad one, and he couldn't bother keeping the characters and their lines straight...

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and Kloves is an idiot! Leaving the franchise is about the best thing he could do.

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yeah i kinda have to agree, i dont think kloves was THAT great. no offense to him and all. but im glad theres a new screenwriter.
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Nope. JK has no contractual rights over the movies whatsoever. Heyman said that before. She worked on the first script but if she did help out with them properly, she'd be credited for it. Since she's not, she doesn't.
^This is why I think he toyed with the script so freakin much! He probably knew he could get away with twisting the details. *mutters under breath* Stupid Kloves...
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I'll agree that the lines had nothing to do with what Harry was asking the professor at the time. But I'll disagree witht that the actors made the movie and not the script. Because you could have the best actors in the bussiness and your script is really pointless and has no depth to it I hardly doubt it will be a good movie.
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