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The Half-Blood Prince Harry's 6th year at Hogwarts - who is the Prince?

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Old 07-18-2005, 02:07 PM   #101 (permalink)
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Well... I'll start with the Obvious. Regulus Black

Of course we have no middle name for Regulus. We have no First or middle mane for Borgin Yet. Some have mentioned Burke, but his first name is Caractucus (HBP CE Pg 261 in Ch 13)

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Anyway, I believe it is Regulus Black
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Old 07-18-2005, 04:34 PM   #102 (permalink)
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i'm totally sure, because, remember all the speculation about the "Half-Blood Prince"? Everyone thought it was Harry or Voldemort or Dumbledore. No matter what, you couldn't have guessed the real culprit was. I think it may be Regulas Black, but no one really knows except JKR.
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Old 07-18-2005, 04:49 PM   #103 (permalink)
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In a recent news article JKR mentions that she closes the 6th book with a mystery which we can assume to be the identity of R.A.B. She said that most of you have probably guessed it already which means logically that this person is mentioned in one of the books. Then clearly through deduction one would end up with Regulus' name.

The more important question is, if it is Regulus, why did he want to destroy the horcrux?
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Old 07-18-2005, 04:52 PM   #104 (permalink)
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I remain convinced that it is Regulus Black.

Everything in the note seems to fit...

I will have to think of motives for a while though...

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Old 07-18-2005, 05:04 PM   #105 (permalink)
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i think that R.A.B was regulus black...some people are saying it cant be him cause hes dead! but i believe he destoryed the amulet and then voldemort found him killing him never to know that regulus had destoyed apart of his soul...
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Old 07-18-2005, 05:46 PM   #106 (permalink)
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My friend and I really think it may be Regulus (Like just about half the people in this thread)! The problem is that we need a reason for him to have stolen it, and proof that he would have known about the Horcruxes. To find proof, we need to look back to the fourth and fifth books. In the forth book, Voldemort says something which shows that all Death Eaters must have known about the Horcruxes.

“I, who have gone father then anybody along the path that leads to immortality. You know my goal- To concur death.”


In saying this, Voldemort seems to imply that all of his Death Eaters know what he did to try to reach this goal. Now, to find out why he would want to steal the Horcruxes we have to go to book five.

“From what I found out after he died, he got in so far, then panicked about what he was being asked to do and tried to back out.”


Now, maybe Regulus was smarter then we thought. Maybe he knew he would die and in turn decided that he would have revenge? Anything is possible… The big question is; what is his middle name?
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Old 07-18-2005, 05:56 PM   #107 (permalink)
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Something that starts with an A? I don't know. It seems obvious that it is Regulas Black, but yes, the motive is confusing. He wouldn't know about the cave.

Unless, he was one of the people who set up the cave. Surely Voldemort couldn't have done all of that by himeself.

Also, I think he backed out from killing a close family friend, or even family. Sirius perhaps? That would make him want to have revenge.
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Old 07-18-2005, 09:36 PM   #108 (permalink)
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Assuming that Regulus is R.A.B. I can't help but wonder why he stole the Horcrux from his master... because I don't think that after he didn't follow his orders he had time to flee... why would he steal it???
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Old 07-18-2005, 10:51 PM   #109 (permalink)
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Actually, just now I began to reread the book and early on I found a quote from Remus:

"And they've found Igor Karkaroff's body in a shack up north. The Dark Mark had been set over it - well, frankly, I'm surprised he stayed alive for even a year after deserting the Death Eaters; Sirius's brother, Regulus, only managed a few days as far as I can remember." (106 US version)

A few days would be sufficient time to track down the locket. But another question is who went with him as Dumbledore stated later on, I couldn't have done it alone.
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Old 07-18-2005, 11:50 PM   #110 (permalink)
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Regulus black was also my first guess. but um, why exactly do we need to know who the person is if in the note it said that they would be dead, and that they were planing on destroying the Horcruxe?
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Old 07-19-2005, 12:08 AM   #111 (permalink)
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Actually, just now I began to reread the book and early on I found a quote from Remus:

"And they've found Igor Karkaroff's body in a shack up north. The Dark Mark had been set over it - well, frankly, I'm surprised he stayed alive for even a year after deserting the Death Eaters; Sirius's brother, Regulus, only managed a few days as far as I can remember." (106 US version)

A few days would be sufficient time to track down the locket. But another question is who went with him as Dumbledore stated later on, I couldn't have done it alone.
Very good observation. I hadn't even realized it until now. How would he have found all that info out in a few days, being as it took Dumbledore a long time to find it out. And did he do it alone?? I couldn't of been with a fellow death eater, they would have told Voldemort or killed him before he could do it. Or was his task to bring Voldemort the locket and when he found out what it was, he decided to destroy it. But that couldn't be because he put everything back the way it was supposed to be. But how did he replace the potion that had to be drunk?? How did he know what it was and what he had to do before he got there?? There is a true mystery behind this.
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Old 07-19-2005, 12:28 AM   #112 (permalink)
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[quote=phoenixtears489]In a recent news article JKR mentions that she closes the 6th book with a mystery which we can assume to be the identity of R.A.B. She said that most of you have probably guessed it already which means logically that this person is mentioned in one of the books. Then clearly through deduction one would end up with Regulus' name.
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Well if JKR said that we would probably have guessed than I think people are on the right track with Sirius brother. It is pretty hard to think of another character with the initials that fits the bill.
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Old 07-19-2005, 02:23 AM   #113 (permalink)
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I think it's Regulas A Black. I can't think of anyone else it could be.
That's what I was thinking.
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Old 07-19-2005, 03:32 AM   #114 (permalink)
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ok i know this is kind of out there...but....i was talking to a friend of mine about the whole business.....
regulas was the one who found the locket but DUMBLEDORE went with him....she thinks that dumbledore already knew about the locket (how MUCH about the cave he knew) and used it to help harry become more confident and also know how dangerous it was going to be. she thinks(and i agree) that the snape/dumbledore thing is a sort of smoke screen to get harry more resolved and on his own...he's going to have to be on his own to kill voldemort. so maybe dumbledore knew about the cave and the locket because he had helped regulas??
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Old 07-19-2005, 03:50 AM   #115 (permalink)
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the first name that jumped to my head was regallus black, and it looks like almost everyone agrees with me. I think Sirius just underestimated his brother (he did seem to be wrong about a few other things). Once he got in deep, saw what was going on, and tried to back out, he knew he would be killed. Before that, he just tracked down one or more horuxes and was then killed.
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Old 07-19-2005, 04:15 AM   #116 (permalink)
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I think the note he left made it very clear WHY he wanted to distroy it. He probably thought there was only one.

He could have very well died because he stole it, either the curse of drinking the green stuff (which apparently kills slowly, giving him time to distroy the Horcruxe.) As for why he would put the more green stuff in? Maybe to leave it as it was so Voldermort might not realize that his soul was no longer safe.

Remember, no one had ever thought of creating more than one. So, if RAB found out about it somehow, he may have thought there was only one, or thought, "well, at least I started the process of your permanent death, sucka."

I REALLY doubt Voldermort shared anything about HOW he would become "immortal" with his DE's. He may have held it out as a future promise of teaching them how, but he hates and mistrusts everyone, and had no reason to share this.
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It probably refills automatically.
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Old 07-19-2005, 07:00 AM   #118 (permalink)
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remember wat dumble dore told harry while in one of their classes.. though voldermorts death eaters may think they are close to him.. and that voldermort tell hthem everything... they are wrong.. for voldermort never wanted..neither required friends.... he was in it alone...

so i dont think that he would have confided in anyone that he was using horcruxes to make himslef immortal.. he would have kept that soulely to himself..

as for who took the locket.. i have no idea... maybe it was regulas black.. i dont know... but why would a DE.. apparently so faithful to voldermort.. find out.. and steal the things that was keeping him immortal.. i mean .. like it showed in the book.. there was a lot of research to find that thing....so i guess .. if it is infact rgulas black who took it.....

why would a DE want to destroy his master so much??
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Assuming that Regulus is R.A.B. I can't help but wonder why he stole the Horcrux from his master... because I don't think that after he didn't follow his orders he had time to flee... why would he steal it???
well like Sirius said Regulus wanted out of being a death eater (5th book)
but i think a more interesting question would be is how he stole it or how he figured out it was horocruxes... i mean DD had a hunch but didn't figure it out untill much later.

and i'm still wundering where that locket is now that they threw it out of grumauld place *thinks*

well anyway
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nah...I reckon Regulus. if it was R and B it would've been written as R&B, wouldn't it?

I reckon there's nooooooo way its a new person, there's not enough time to introduce them.
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A couple of points:

We know Regulus only had a few days after leaving the death eaters before being killed, but what if the act that made it clear he was leaving the death eaters was him stealing the horcrux, in other words he stole it and ran, and then had his few days. This gives him plenty more time to get the locket from the cave. Always assuming that he could conceal what he was doing from voldemort.

We also know regulus died around the time of the prohecy being made (in OOTP it says he died 15 years previously). So the most obvious motive is that he knew that the potters were in danger, which would also place his brother in danger. They may have not been particularly close, but they are still family.
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Wait a minute.. I know this may sound somewhat stupid here, but, maybe it was two people? I mean, there needed to be two people to get to the locket. A could stand for And. Just a thought... Now let us think, whose initials start with R and B that would be considered a likely duo?
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Wait a minute.. I know this may sound somewhat stupid here, but, maybe it was two people? I mean, there needed to be two people to get to the locket. A could stand for And. Just a thought... Now let us think, whose initials start with R and B that would be considered a likely duo?
The note from RAB does actually say I rather than We, so it probably is only one person.
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i don't think it was 2 people.

i definatly think it was Regulus

and that little part of the note that said by the time you read this i will be dead (or similar)
i think it's because of that potion he had to drink.

*shrugs* just a thought.

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I also think it was Regulus Black. I think one of them is in the Mirror Sirius gaved Harry.
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