That is sad to hear. I don't hate JKR, but she's not my favourite person today. She'll always be my favourite person, just not today. You shouldn't give up. So she gave us a sad and depressing and sort of disappointing book (R/HR!! Hello? Where are you?). But that doesn't mean you should give up.

I cried for so long while reading chapters 28-30. Throughout the book, I thought it would be Dumbledore who died, and since the first moment we saw the potions book I knew it was Snape's. But still, it was a shock to realise that Dumbledore won't be coming back...I'm disliking JKR very much at this current moment in time, because poor Harry is left alone. Sure, he's got Ron and Hermione, and the Weasleys, but his parents are dead, his godfather is dead, and now the wizard who was practically his grandfather is dead. It's really depressing. I was crying so much in those last chapters though, mainly the last one, that I couldn't see what I was reading. I actually feel really empty now. I know it sounds stupid, but when I'm reading HP, I feel like I'm actually there and I know the characters so well. I feel like Dumbledore and Sirius were part of my life, and now they're dead. It sounds stupid to me, saying this, but it's true. HP has become such a large part of my life...

I agree with you, trinabrow. I've heard that JKR has actually said that Harry will die. She isn't going to do anymore books after the 7th, and killing harry will put a stop to anyone protesting and saying, "Oh, but you have to do more! Tell us what happens to Harry afterwards!" As much as I dread the thought of dear Harry dying...I think it is highly likely. If JKR kills Ron though...I will despise her forever and ever!

^ I know how you feel. And it's bad when you've been a Snape-fan for as long as I have been. I've posted long rants in replies to n00bs who can't spell, fics that slandered or slaughtered him... yes, I'm not feeling all warm and fuzzy to JKR now. And it's silly, I know, because it's not even real, but try telling a broken heart that. LOL

It's crazy, but I feel so vulnerable with Dumbledore gone.

I know how you feel...

I just can't belive it. I had a feeling that Dumbledore would die sooner or later but this way???!!!

I know this may sound a bit too much; but I really lost something the moment Snape raised his wand and killed Dumbledore.

BUT why did Dumbledore say 'please' - was he really begging for his life or maybe his death? ...

I'm seriously looking for reasons here!!!

Truthfully, I don't see it as begging for his life. It is what Harry assumed it was. Most times, it is natural for people to see things were there is nothing.

It could have been that he was trying to say something. Or maybe asking for a proper duel. Seriously. We as readers, without a more in-depth analysis, know nothing of what truly happened in Dumbledore's mind when he said that.

And just to add, two things.
The first is that these people were death eaters, they are supposed to be evil.. behave in evil ways, say evil things. So I'm not surprised of their behavior. Some of them doubted, some of them didn't.
The second is that I don't think Harry will die in the 7th book. However, I do hope that he continues his education. He doesn't know enough magic as it is. I think he is not prepared and jumping into the abyss like that would be.. well, not the best of choices.

You're not the only one, and I'm also hopefully not the only one who thinks that the whole thing is fishy.

If anything, for some reason, I feel more attached to Snape than anything else.

*snarls*

Yes I agree. The begging was what got to me...why would Dumbledore do that - if Snape really had betrayed him wouldn't he have said something else?

Dumbledore knew his life was ending so he knew the ultimate sign of loyalty Snape could show was killing him, because he knew Draco did not have it in him...

I wonder what would have happened if Harry had gotten Snape the minute Dumbledore asked him too in Hogsmeade when they returned from the Cave...

I won't bother getting emotional all over again for Dumbledore's death. I finished the book two hours ago and only just stopped crying. (No remark on that.) I wrote out a rant on my LJ, so ... that's where all the emotions are.

I'm still .. in shock of Dumbledore's last words. I know Andrew said it could have been like a request to save a child, but it sounded more like begging to my mind, and that's automatic twitch. Even so, I know he has a big heart and kindness to everyone around, but after learning that Snape was fighting with the DEs even to keep his cover, the way Dumbledore reacted was .. wretched. You would think he would be mad, though unknowing to what the professor would do, but no, he was still polite.

Dumbledore at least deserved a good death, not a stupid Killing Curse.

*snarls and removes self from thread before anyone replies*

...well i brought my book to work...broke down crying....that was interesting.

...i need a while to reflect on this before i can discuss it.

for now, i'm just.... really, really sad.

Me too. It's something to ponder...

I WANT SNAPE TO DIE !!!! i cant believe he killed dumbldore!!!!! , but u no i sorta feel bad for malfoy, my heart now has a space for malfoy, he really didnt want to kill dumbldore.

me too, Ron is my favorite character, i will be devastated if he dies, particularly if he and hermione don’t sort it out and kiss already first lol. But i dont think he will be killed off, it would ruin the major romance story that is bound to climax in the next book

right, I've been thinking this morning and this is what I've come up with:

I think the black hand meant Dumbledore was dying firstly and Snape might have known.

And know, when Malfoy came up to the tower he left Dumbledore wandless and Harry couldn't help him coz he was frozen.

Dumbledore was then surrounded by death eaters and he knew he was gonna die. Dumbledore wanted Snape to come upstairs because he sent for Harry to get him. This could have been because that potion was full of dark magic or it may have been to save Malfoy as Dumbledore knew he was gonna die.

Then Snape enters...if Malfoy didn't do it then Snape had to do it because he would have died and it would mean the Order had no spies in Voldemorts camp.

If neither Snape or Malfoy had done it then Snape would have died from the vow and Malfoy would have died from Voldemort most likely. And then a different death eater would have killed Dumbledore anyway. This means Malfoy would be dead, they would be no more spy and Dumbledore would be dead. Snape couldn't let all 3 of them die.

If Snape had wasted time and let Dumbledore get his wand, would Dumbledore have been to weak to do anything? If he was strong enough he'd have had to give all the Death Eaters a curse or what not and he couldn't leave out Snape because then the Death Eaters would know he was in the Order which would mean that he could no longer spy and that Voldemort would kill him anyway.

So in all, Dumbledore must have thought that Snape was more important to the Order than himself and he must have told Snape this. He must have also thought that Harry could manage to find the rest of the hocruxes by himself and could help him via his portrait.

On the other hand, he could just be an evil git...

Oh how i agree...

I just finished the book today at 5 AM and I have to say that, for me, the death was unexpectable. Even though there were loads of rumors saying it would be Dumbledore. I actually never believed that would be him. Until the part of the Inferius trying to 'get' them.

I read the 2 posts above and I also agree in what you said. But... it seemed that Dumbledore was begging not to be killed, so why would Snape kill him if he was so faithful?

I dunno... this thing was a bit confusing don't you think?

The thing that i keep thinking about is that, if the death eaters hadnt arrived, malfoy may hav fallen for dumbldores idea,(u no the one where dumbldore wud hide malfoy and his mom away from voldemort, and voldemort wud think they're dead) i wonder wht cud hav happened?

see i still think Dumbledore was NOT pleading for his life i mean does he strike you as a person who begs for his life i think not...

But i have to say this i love snape he is well... anyway i still think there is good in him and i hope he killed him because of the vow and not because he had being lying to him all these years

^ Yep, I agree. And I think we can all agree to disagree *grins*
Its ok to have different opinions.

I personally don't feel Dumbledore was begging.. I think he was going to say something.. I dont know. I need to re-read the book.. But I can't do it now.

yeah i have read it once and plan to start again today i defenatly warrents a second read

Dumbledore can still talk to Harry through his portrait but I somehow feel it wouldn't be the same anymore. I always knew Snape was a shady character but I didn't expect him to kill Dumbledore like that! I wasn't bawling my eyes out but I teared. It was so difficult to read the funeral. I teared all over again and books don't normally make me cry. Did Harry really say he was withdrawing from Hogwarts? I really hope he does continue because at least his teachers will be able to protect him. I don't think Snape will be in Hogwarts in Year 7 anymore. He wouldn't have the guts to. Who would, when you've just killed your Headmaster, one who has trusted you all these years?

McGonagall will make a good Headmistress but I don't see her as Harry's mentor. Harry does not confide in her or feel a strong bond with her as he does with Dumbledore. I hope Voldermort will be finished in book 7. Although I hated the deaths and all, I have to say book 6 was one of my favourites. My all time favourite is still book 3! The funny bits in book 6 are absolutely hilarious! I laughed out loud and my maid was thinking if I'd gone mad...=)

i think that McGonagall will be HM but harry wont confide in her she had no idea what dd was doing so i dont know who will help harry now maby the painting but lupin? no idea

Well i got it right technically, i assumed Dumbledore, Hagrid or Lupin was to pop their cloggs. I guess it unfair to make soo many guesses and stick by them but it had to be one or more of those three i just knew it.

The way Dumbledore died i however did not guess, Snape cursed him! it was soo shocking i could of jumped in the book and ripped him to shreads.

Im jus not able to think of anything else...but i think Dumbledore was a great wizard to die so pathetic death...his death sud have been more tough...jus like sirius'