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| | The Half-Blood Prince Harry's 6th year at Hogwarts - who is the Prince? | Vote for SS!
07-17-2005, 02:01 AM
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Isabella Cortella Second Year | Nah. Come on. Harry has to find the last four bits of Voldie's sould. Of COURSE she'll continue. And McGonagall will be pursuaded to open the school, I'm sure. And Ron has pledged his loyalty. Where Harry goes, you KNOW Ron will go, whether or not Harry wants him to. They're all in this together. They'll be there for each other. Breaking up with Ginny? That's merely trying to put her out of risk. We know that there may still be something going on with them. Trust me, even if he's not in school, something is going to be happening. |
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07-17-2005, 02:14 AM
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| DD death seriously shocked me,but Snape...well,growing up with Harry as my favorite character,I thought the same way...I never trusted him.I knew he was going to kill Dumbledore once Draco turned up,simply because Draco wasn't going to do it and if Snape hadn't popped up the Unbreakable Vow would've killed him.So,kick the bucket vs. save Dumbledore and he choice the former.
What I wanted to see though,was Susan Bones.Her aunt,her dear aunt,whom she seemed so close to,had just died.What was going on with her?
Ah well...I'm not JK. |
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07-17-2005, 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Mysti What I wanted to see though,was Susan Bones.Her aunt,her dear aunt,whom she seemed so close to,had just died.What was going on with her? | I wanted to hear more about her too. A lot of characters were hardly mentioned in this book. It was sad when we found out madam bones died, I wanted her to be the new minister of magic. |
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07-17-2005, 02:20 AM
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Harry has to find the last four bits of Voldie's sould. Of COURSE she'll continue. And McGonagall will be pursuaded to open the school, I'm sure. And Ron has pledged his loyalty.
| Lmao... Alot of things to look forward too, But the shock of Dd's death is still there...I still can't believe he's gone...But he wont really be gone...As harry mentioned...
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07-17-2005, 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Gryphonia I seriously hate J.K. Rowling. | Whoa, calm down. It's her book and characters, she could do anything with them. However, I also find Dumbldore's death depressing.
Also, I am shoked to find out that Amelia and Emmeline died. I was like, "No way." I mean, they were just introduce in the last book, then now, they are dead. |
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07-17-2005, 02:38 AM
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| Dumbledore's death, though I was blubbering through all of it, I felt was a necessary one. It's the only way Harry will finally grow up and be able to face Voldemort by himself, without the comfort of knowing Dumbledore is there.
As for Snape...I honestly think that he can still be good. He wasn't attacking Harry when they were fighting, only deflecting his spells. There must be more behind this..although right now I do hate Snape. |
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07-17-2005, 02:55 AM
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Cordelia Flynn First | its horrible ive been crying for 2 hours! why!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!??!?!?!?!?!? all hope is lost for the wizarding world now with...........*sobs*........d-d-dd-dumbledore.............*gulp*........gone........ what is going to happen to hogwarts??? with him gone surely its not safe anymore............then again, no where is safe. i just cant imagine what book seven holds because it seems to me that with each book everything gets worse and worse. its like my perfect little harry potter world is gone. for good. R.I.P. Albus Dumbledore, Headmaster of Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardy, and best wizard to ever live. we will always remain loyal to him so he will continue to live in Hogwarts and our world. with all due respect, Margaret Ann |
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07-17-2005, 03:17 AM
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| As soon as I read those two awful words... "Avada Kedavra!" ...I started sobbing my eyes out. Why Dumbledore?! Especially after all he went through to get the Horcrux, and then it was only a fake, and to come back to Hogwarts, in very very bad shape, to be murdered by someone in whom he had full trust... I don't think I've ever loved Dumbledore so much, nor hated Snape this much... I started freaking out when I read Snape's murder of him. I cried so much... I don't think I've ever cried that long or hard over another book, I mean, I made myself sick from crying so much. Rest in peace... Albus Percival Wulfric Brian Dumbledore |
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07-17-2005, 03:39 AM
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| as soon as jk mentioned his black hand in the book i figured he was going to die. i was hoping he wouldn't but he did seem to be a pretty likely candidate. i cried though at the whole ending (sniff,tear)
i'm not sure what to think of snape's killing him. it could be a number of situations. it could be snape really has been evil all along. it could also be that dumbledore said the please part as in asking snape to kill him for either one of two reasons. one because he was in way too much pain or two because he didn't want malfoy to kill him (because he did seem to put an extraordinary emphasize on how malfoy has not killed a single person while he was alone with malfoy...and with malfoy now surrounded by death eaters that were telling him to kill dumbledore malfoy might be more inclined to finally kill an innocent person) |
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07-17-2005, 03:55 AM
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Death of Madam Bones. Unexpected. That shock threw me off balance. Perhaps that is probably why I didn't finish the book sooner than I had wanted. What a loss. I wonder what will happen to Susan Bones, the Hufflepuff student? Will she live with other relatives, that is, if remaining? But I know this is not thread to discuss other matters other than deaths. Sigh...
Emmeline Vance, one of the Order members. Didn't know much about her, so it didn't affect me as much.
Aragog. Meh. I didn't like the giant spider, an acromatula, very much- Very dangerous indeed, trying to eat Ron and Harry alive back in book two. But I am still sympathetic towards Hagrid for the loss of his friend that he raised, and that it is the very first beast he raised.
Now Dumbledore. I was staring at the UK children's version. I have found doing this myself several times. I guess I couldn't help but think that with Dumbledore on the cover, not only will he get involved with one of Harry's adventures, but will die soon, possibly in the book. Yet, it did happened, towards the end of HBP. I know I had him one of the possible suspects next to be the victim of death due to summaries and essays written I have gathered. However, I was denying it, hoping that DD won't die in this one, but the last. I am still in a semi-shock, but still grieving at his loss.
As for Snape....I didn't think he would....*wails* Ohh....How could he! Why! Why? I may not like him as much- due to his tendency to retort his potions students' attemps in potionmaking. What he did to Dumbledore was unforgivable. It is also understandable for the account of his actions, strangely as it seems.
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07-17-2005, 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Hermione_loves_Ron All I know is that I hate Snape and until I find evidence that he is good.... everything about him in that book makes me feel ready to murder him. URGH.
Mind, I figured it was a high time Dumbledore died, sadly. I knew it would happen, I myself had been thinking 5th book. Dumbledore is Harry's protection. He's the one thing keeping Voldemort from getting to Harry. And with him gone and Harry nearly of age, it won't be a very hard task, now will it?
In a sick way, it is a little more comforting that it was someone close to Dumbledore who killed him as opposed to a Death Eater. Almost comforting-ish... o.O | I completely agree. I just want to stragle Snape right now. I never did really trust him and then in the 5th book I began to think "You know... maybe he isn't evil."And then he goes and murders Dumbledore. And yes, I guessed Dumbledore would die too. For one, all of the people that Harry cares about are about dying so I figured it would be Dumbledore. And there ya go, I was right. Evil Snape. True. It is more comforting he died at the hands of Snape than in the hands of a Death Eater wjo would probably Crucio him a couple times 'round the block before he actually did kill 'im. -And then all the other murders! All I have to say to that is "Gah!" |
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07-17-2005, 05:20 AM
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| So, I seriously felt as if all of this was really happening and that I needed to do something to stop it from happening...like i wanted to pull out my wand and undo Dumbledore's spell on Harry. I CAN'T believe JKR killed of Dumbledore! I mean I guess I kind of saw it coming what with his black, withered hand and the fact that he was telling Harry so much. *sob* Why though...why did he have to die?!?!?!
As for Snape still being good...I don't know if I believe it. It seems to me that noone will ever trust Snape again and that by killing Dumbledore he has completely cut himself off from the Order members. I've never liked Snape but I would like to believe that there could be some hope of retribution for him. |
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07-17-2005, 05:26 AM
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I seriously hate J.K. Rowling.
First, she killed off Sirius, my favourite character, then she totally ruined my second favourite character (Snape) and then she kills off my third favourite character, Dumbledore!
I must say that this book was an endless, tragic disappointment.
It's not "Harry Potter" anymore. It's not fun to read, it's just.. tragic.
I think J.K. finally went to far and ruined what could have been the greatest book series of our time. I'm not sure I'll even read the seventh book...
To me, "Harry Potter" is dead.
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Well, Harry Potter has never been about sunshine and roses, has it? true, the turn of events were shocking and heartbreaking, but to actually hate the whole series? I think thats too much. |
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07-17-2005, 05:35 AM
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| | | I'm reading all these posts and I SO knew lots of people were gunna turn on it and hate something of it.
Anyway. I have a question and I'm TOTALLY and COMPLETELY LOST AND CONFUSED!!!
Did Dumbledore know when he told Harry to make him continue to drink that stuff that it was for nothing at all? And if he did... WHY DID HE DO IT!??!?!
Maybe no one knows.. or maybe I missed something.. a little help please?? | |
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07-17-2005, 05:46 AM
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| I have always thought of Snape to be on Voldemorts side. But I honestly can say I never thought he would be the one to kill Dumbledore. Seeing all your posts is going to make me cry again. :\ I had this feeling it would be Dumbledore, but I most certainly did not want it to be him. I was a complete mess reading the last 50 or so pages. |
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07-17-2005, 06:00 AM
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| | | although i refused to believe that dumbledore could die in this book, i was not surprized by his death. i am, however, very surprized at how he died. he did not go out fighting, for for some noble purpose, and almost without dignaty. this, sadly, is making me believe that rowling is capable of killing of harry at the end of book 7. | |
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07-17-2005, 06:14 AM
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Penelope Pinwall/Melina Wood Third | Ever since Dumbledore told Harry that he is still just a man, and makes mistakes, I have always said Snape was untrustworthy! Though, the second chapter had me wondering, "Was Snape lying to Dumbledore, Or Voldemort?" Because he would have to be lying to one of them. I sucks that Snape made the Unbreakable Vow, because since Malfoy didn't want to kill Dumbledore, Snape HAD to finish his work!! I still can't believe it!!! What is Harry going to do without Dumbledore! He was his man, through and through! How is he going to find the other four Horcruxes without Dumbledores help? AND! what was the stuff Dumbledore drank at the cave??? I still can't bear to think in the next book, Dumbledore won't be Headmaster...Will Harry return to Hogwarts, or does anyone think there will be NO Hogwarts????? I CAN'T WAIT ANOTHER YEAR FOR MORE ANSWERS! OH...and I would also like the say, "Where is all the information about Lily? All I got was she was good at Potions!!!" Help me...keep me sane, please! So now Harry has no more protection...just him and Voldemort, which I guess is the right thing. I have a very bad feeling for the next book now, the Evil side is so much more powerful then the good side...it is going to be hard to watch... before Albus died, it was 2 powerful wizard against 1....now it will just be 1 on 1. The poor wizarding world...thank goodness I'm a Muggle!
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07-17-2005, 06:39 AM
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| I knew it! I knew it! And I told everyone before the book came out so I totally knew Dumbledore was going to die.
I thought so because of the way heroic stories go.. and the fact was that before the big fight, the hero needs to lose the old wizard/wise-person who has been leading him. Only so the hero can fight at the end without him guiding him.
I wasn't surprised at Snape, he seemed very vengeful and I never understood why he helped Dumbledore. After the first chapters I knew he was against the Order.. And Draco, well he always jumps to show off -- so I wasn't surprised he joined the Death Eaters. I actually thought he was ordered to kill someone after his mother talked to Snape, but I wasn't sure it was Dumbledore...
I was apalled by Bones' death in the beginning! I had hoped she had become the new Minister |
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07-17-2005, 06:48 AM
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Penelope Pinwall/Melina Wood Third | I always thought Arthur would become Minister because back in the 5th book, Ron told Harry something like, "We have much a chance as to winning the Quidditch Cup as my dad has becoming Minister of Magic!" And of course, they won....so I was hopeful...
I still can't believe the title of the book is, "Harry Potter and ((taken literally)) Severus Snape!"
Will Malfoy join the good side? Does Snape only kill Dumbledore because of the Vow? Is Snape really a good actor and willing to kill Dumbledore for the Order? God, Jk, what have you done to us Potter fans!!!"
Oh...and what did you guys think of the Minister....I see him as a big git. Along with all the other Ministery of magic people. |
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07-17-2005, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by AmeliaP although i refused to believe that dumbledore could die in this book, i was not surprized by his death. | I thought Dumbledore would jump up and surprise everyone with his magical ability to play dead or something of that sort...
Hey, did anyone else hear about the interview saying JK had "no problem" killing off the character in this book? Because I find it hard to just briskly kill the HEADMASTER OF HOGWARTS LIKE IT IS NOTHING!! |
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07-17-2005, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by AnimagusSnuffles I think we need to look at one what Dumbledore knew and second his last words.
Dumbledore had become aware of the Unbreakable Vow. Snape had to protect Draco. Dumbledore did not want Draco to become a killer. Draco to him was still reachable. Draco true to Dumbledore's word could not kill the Headmaster. Enter Snape.
We don't know now if Albus and Severus ever spoke about the vow between Draco's mother and Snape. We don't know if Dumbledore had arranged for Snape to do in the end to protect Draco. Who will pay for not being able to carry his mission, but it is unlikely Voldemort will kill Draco, since in the end Snape did the killing.
Dumbledore's last word were, "Severus....please" not something like "Serverus...don't" or "No...Severus...No" It is as if Dumbledore's last words are a request of friend to save a child. The anger Harry saw might have been Snape's own hatred for what he had to do to protect Draco. Even afterwards Snape didn't hurt Harry. He even coached Harry to block him (Snape) from his mind while Harry was trying to jinx him. Snape even at that moment was trying to help Harry. Snape knows if he can read Harry's mind so can Voldemort.
That's just my take on it. I might be wrong, but I might be right.
Addition: Remember Snape showed up as a foe in Barty Crouch Jr's Foe Glass. I believe this clue is important. | THANK YOU.
Thank you so very much. You've just articulated everything I wanted to say. Whatever happens in the book, we see it all through Harry's eyes, and Harry has been prejudiced against Snape since Year One. Admittedly, he has reason to be but still... in the fifth book, because he refused to believe Snape, Sirius died. Then he blamed Snape like mad.
The 'hatred and revulsion' on his face could have been because of the deed he had to do. After all, if he really 'hated' and was 'revolted' by Dumbledore, wouldn't he have tormented him a bit more? Just to gain more support among those deatheaters there, because I'm sure they wouldn't have complained. Quote: |
Also, I am shoked to find out that Amelia and Emmeline died. I was like, "No way." I mean, they were just introduce in the last book, then now, they are dead.
| Maybe that's why she killed them, after all, you have to kill off SOMEONE. Might as well be someone totally unimportant, and nearly unnoticed. To convince people there's a war going on, there'd be a lot random killings, and she can't randomly kill off an important character.
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07-17-2005, 06:59 AM
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Penelope Pinwall/Melina Wood Third | the about statement makes sense....why else would Dumbledore paralyze Harry? I can't think of an answer besides he didn't want him to interfer... |
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07-17-2005, 07:37 AM
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| Dumbledores death shocked me, but at the same time it didn't. I always expected that Dumbledore wouldn’t make it out of the series alive, however I thought he was going to die in the 7th book and that would spur Harry into killing Voldermort but quite obviously I was wrong. I think that people are really on to something in saying that perhaps Dumbledore was asking Snape to kill him.... I have a really strong feeling that there is more to Snape still that we don’t know, he may still have some good in him, however I was wrong about Dumbledore so..... When Dumbledore and Harry were discussing the horcruxes I honestly thought that harry may have been given part of voldermorts soul when he got the scar, and I still think that there may be something in this, but again, just random speculation. Ps. thanks to snitchseeker for opening up this forum, none of my friends are really into these books so this gives me a chance to ramble on, even if no one reads my post, so cheers:p |
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07-17-2005, 07:51 AM
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| | | Its become pretty obvious that harry must die in 7 with voldemort, but i think jk is forgetting these are children's books read but kids probally 10 years old and maybe younger. I dont think it will come off good if she kills harry in book 7. | |
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07-17-2005, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Nycfj12 Its become pretty obvious that harry must die in 7 with voldemort, but i think jk is forgetting these are children's books read but kids probally 10 years old and maybe younger. I dont think it will come off good if she kills harry in book 7. | These books have long stopped being just for children of ten. Books are books. Plots are plots. I don't think that people who read the books have any right to complain about it. |
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