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Old 12-04-2006, 07:50 AM   #26 (permalink)
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ok, i loved GoF, dont get me wrong it was amazing, but i think Dumbledore was not very well portrayed. in my opinion, Dumbledore is supposed to be a man that is almost fatherly towards Harry, always gentle and calm and never angry or violent. (this is how he was in the 1st and 2nd movie) in this movie however...he physically shakes harry and yells at him and is violent! is this really how dumbledore is supposed to act? maybe its just the actor but i was kind of dissapointed. Dumbledore gets all distressed and yells all the time which is not very dumbledorish in my opinion.
i completelly agree!! its just not like DD .. it actually made me think about how different Richard G. plays DD from how Richard H. played him.. and me and my friend both wish Richard H. was still around to play him.. its just not the same really, NO offense towards Richard G. none what so ever, i mean he's nice and all is just, once someone plays one of the characters.. its just not the same if someone else takes over the part.. you know what i mean? .. i dont know, its just he really doesnt remind me of the orignal Dumbledore. in the GoF.. he actually scared me in a way, cause i've never seen or thought he would actually get that angry.., and i agree with Beav42 too! Richard G. really doesnt seem to know his character like Richard H. did... for one, i remember watching a interview and Richard G. said he played his part as if DD was irish just like Richard H. did... and umm, as far as i know DD isnt irish and Richard H. didnt play him as if he was XD. and i dont know... its just when Richard H. played DD he always sounded so calm about everything, and so wise, and gental.... i never thought he would ever do something like that.. (shaking harry),when i saw that i was shocked.. cause i thought he would be all calm as usual and like already know its not true.. i always thought dumbledore new all and seen all. anyways, i must go for now!
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Old 12-29-2006, 10:26 PM   #27 (permalink)
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I think the problem doesn't lie with Gambon, it's in the screenwriting. Gambon just did the best with what he could. He didn't choose to make Dumbledore angry at Harry after his name comes out of the Goblet. He had to act that, it was in the script. For having to act that, he did a pretty good job.
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Old 03-01-2007, 01:43 AM   #28 (permalink)
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I agree with the first post on so many levels. I actually picture Richard Harris when I read the books and I somehow always had. I'm sure Michael Gambon is a good actor in other roles, but he seems too off and crazy to be Dumbledore. I didn't mind him in PoA but in Gof, um......XD
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This is what BUGGED me the most is how Dumbledore was protrayed in this movie. I hate that Dumbeldore almost attacs Harry when his name comes out of the goblet. That scene was SOO NOT the Dumbledore we all LOVE from the books!
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I KNOW!!!! He's supposed to be calm and always has his head about him. He seemed to lose control when nearly attacking Harry.
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Michael Gambon is a great actor, but I think he was definitely too harsh in GOF. He's great in OOTP and pretty good in POA, but yep...he was a bit over-the-top in GOF.
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ok, i loved GoF, dont get me wrong it was amazing, but i think Dumbledore was not very well portrayed. in my opinion, Dumbledore is supposed to be a man that is almost fatherly towards Harry, always gentle and calm and never angry or violent. (this is how he was in the 1st and 2nd movie) in this movie however...he physically shakes harry and yells at him and is violent! is this really how dumbledore is supposed to act? maybe its just the actor but i was kind of dissapointed. Dumbledore gets all distressed and yells all the time which is not very dumbledorish in my opinion.

this is just how i feel, but does anyone else feel this way?
now that u mentioned this, i beggd a differ: J.K. Rowling is like 1 of the people who gives the script a green-light. mayb when she read through the part where Dumbledore shakes Harry, she thought it'll b nice 2 show a different side of Dumbledore. IDK, but it's just a thought. i mean, u cant possibly expect Dumbledore 2b all fatherly 2 Harry, can u? he has 2 show off a different side of him sometime.

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now that u mentioned this, i beggd a differ: J.K. Rowling is like 1 of the people who gives the script a green-light. mayb when she read through the part where Dumbledore shakes Harry, she thought it'll b nice 2 show a different side of Dumbledore. IDK, but it's just a thought. i mean, u cant possibly expect Dumbledore 2b all fatherly 2 Harry, can u? he has 2 show off a different side of him sometime.

any thoughts? disagreements? agreements?

If Jo wanted to show that side of Dumbledore, wouldn't she just have written it that way in the book? Maybe when she reviewed the script it wasn't written like that, and they just kind of twinked it while they were filming it. Dumbledore is all fatherly to Harry; that's Dumbledore! He does show a different side of himself, but not until books 5-7 really, and the other side of him doesn't involve shaking Harry. Even while showing a different layer of himself, Dumbledore still acts like Dumbledore.


I think Gambon really blew it in that scene; that was just so not Dumbledore. He wouldn't've and didn't react like that! I can't really remember the "Remember Cedric Diggory" speech in the movie too well, but from what I can remember it wasn't as good as it could've been; I was almost to tears when I read it in the book, but I can't remember having any emotion when watching the movie.

I just got done watching OoTP again, and I paid special attention to Gambon/Dumbledore. I still felt he was to harsh and curt. He doesn't have the voice. He's just not Dumbledore.

I just really hope Gambon doesn't ruin Dumbledore in HBP, because that, to me, is Dumbledore's main book. He really has some great moments in there: getting Harry from the Dursleys and taking him to Slughorn's and the Burrow (hilarious), the Pensive scenes, getting the locket Horcrux, and his death scene. I want to cry when I see those last two scenes.

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I agree. Dumbledore's not violent.
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I agree. The books portrayed him as a warmer almost fatherly figure but the movie portrayed him very differently.
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I think that the Dumbledor in the book is too good to be true and the one in the movie is someone we can relate to more in the real world if ya know what I mean. I think he is too kind in the book, and is more realistic in the movie.
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of first of all how do you know that Micheal Gambon wanst supposed to shake harry? what if it was in the script?!
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I agree that Richard Harris grasped the character of Dumbledore, and his fatherly nature towards Harry was shown in the first two films. However, Dumbledore is an extraordinarily powerful man, and (the way Harris played the role) he didn't seem like he was capable of scenes like the duel in OotP or battling the Inferi in HBP.
I am waiting to see how Gambon has adapted the role for Half-blood prince - he certainly does look older and wiser in the trailer. I think we'll all be surprised with how well he plays Dumbledore.
As for Gambon's performances in PoA, GoF and OotP, I don't think he has had much attention, and the role hasn't been much of a key feature in the films. This will change for Half-blood prince, we will start to see Dumbledore in a lot of depth, as opposed to the authorative/fatherly figure we have seen him play before.
One thing I regret not seeing is the full book version of the 'remember Cedric' speech. That was beautiful in the book, but in the movie it was cut down a lot - Gambon would have done that well, I believe.
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Yeah--I'll say it again. Michael Gambon is a bit too...actiony for Dumbledore. Dumbledore doesn't act like he does in the movies. He is a very benevolent man who never expresses his anger outwardly, and who is always gentle and kind and understanding with Harry.
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It's only because he was worried and aware that somebody was trying to kill him. He was panicking.
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i much prefer richard harris but wonder what he would have been like for the physical scenes also gambon said he never read the books i wish he had i think then he would have understood dumbledore and the soft calm but stong way he came across
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