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| | Goblet of Fire Harry's 4th year at Hogwarts - year of The Tri-Wizard Tournament. | Vote for SS!
05-03-2005, 06:16 AM
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| Well back to the topic, I own the Riddle House. I'm Voldemorts real-estate agent. Just kidding. But Frank Bryce is dead so he can't be the owner of the house. I bet nobody owns the house. It's just a hide-out for Voldie. |
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05-03-2005, 07:02 PM
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| Muggle Enthusiast Dugbog
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| Well, if Voldemort is still residing there - Dumbledore might be able to find him. The book is in another room right now and I'm too lazy to go get it for the quote, but anyways - in GOF Dumbledore tells Harry that he reads the muggle papers and he had seen the article about the mysterious death of Frank Bryce and thought it might be connected to Voldemort.
Wouldn't that be nice - Dumbledore could go and sneak attack Voldemort at his own hiding place. |
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05-19-2005, 03:46 AM
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| Why would Voldemort wanna go back to that place? If Frank Bryce had any ties to his father or grandparents, maybe that would be some cause to go kill him. As far as using that as a hideout... c'mon, that'd be way too obvious, and he doesn't want to have any connections to his muggle family, I bet the very sight of that place is all the more reason to erase it from existence. |
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06-27-2005, 05:00 PM
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Flynn Docherty First Year Ministry RPG Name:
Crystal Zitsburg Department of Mysteries | hmm i would say lord voldemort since i think frank would be dead by now and lord voldemort is the only other family member who really has the right to get it and no one else would want to buy it in its condition nowadays |
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06-30-2005, 05:31 AM
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| | Dugbog
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Originally Posted by rpgfrenzy Why would Voldemort wanna go back to that place? If Frank Bryce had any ties to his father or grandparents, maybe that would be some cause to go kill him. As far as using that as a hideout... c'mon, that'd be way too obvious, and he doesn't want to have any connections to his muggle family, I bet the very sight of that place is all the more reason to erase it from existence. |
But because it is so evident to everyone else that he hates his muggle parentage and everything about muggles, that would make the perfect hide-out because no one wuold suspect he would go anywhere near there. |
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07-07-2005, 10:47 AM
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| FF & P. 9¾ Mod Kitty Momma Rachel's Brain Twin Acromantula
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Cynder Mortiferus Nightgale (AKA: Magnus) | it's uninhabeted AKA abandoned AKA deserted AKA vacated LOL: i thought that was funny *shrugs* |
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09-10-2005, 03:10 AM
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| I think that technically Voldemort, as a Riddle family member owns it; but, I think that he has long abandoned it...I could be mistaken though! |
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10-16-2005, 06:53 PM
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| sox master Ashwinder
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Saroja First | Voldemort has no legal propriety over the house. The house belonged to Voldemort's grandfather, not his father. Furthermore, since Voldemort's father abandoned his wife before Tom was born, Voldemort's claim to the house is tenuous at best. Voldemort's father would not have any legal obligations to give property to his illegitimate son, only financial support. As such, his grandfather certainly would have no legal obligations to Voldemort.
Indeed, after Voldemort killed his Grandparents and his father, he left and the house was purchased by a third party (for 'tax reasons' whatever that means) who kept Frank on to look after the estate. In other words, since the house was purchased by someone not related to the Riddles, Tommy has no legal claim to it. After the rightful owners, Frank probably owns it, since the owners never lived or visited it, and by all accounts Frank lived there for more than 15 years, he may have a legal claim to it.
It probably gets even worse when you consider that Voldemort is probably an unregistered citizen of Britain. The moral of the story is this, the order of ownership goes as follows: - Mr. Riddle (Voldemort's grandfather) owned the house
- Would then pass (presumably to Tom Riddle Sr.)
- Voldemort killed his grandfather and father, the house is now un-owned.
- Third party purchases the house for 'tax reasons', likely muggles, wizards don't pay taxes.
- Third party has Frank live on the estate
- Third party never visits the estate over a long period of time
- Frank lives on estate, owners don't. He may have legal claim to ownership.
- Voldemort kills Frank, the house goes back to Third Party owners (likely muggles, Wizards don't pay taxes).
- Third party, muggle owners, now certainly own the house.
- Sorry Tom, your muggle dad's house is owned by a Muggle, because you killed him. Isn't that a kicker?
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I want to add, if Voldemort made a legal claim to the house, the circumstances concerning his family's demise would become clear (from Dumbledore's pensieve). At which point, Voldemort loses all claim to the house because ownership was given up at the death of his family. Since he commited the murder, he cannot profit from his crime. Hence, he legally cannot inherit the house. Sorry Voldy, stinks to be you.
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11-11-2005, 08:54 AM
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| The owner of the house is Tom Riddle's father. |
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11-20-2005, 11:40 AM
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| K.O. of Mr Tennant's specs Banshee
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| i think it is a ruin and no one owns it! but then again if that was true why was the old guy there? looking after it? |
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12-13-2005, 06:33 PM
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| Monopolized
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Originally Posted by Bathazar Wulf -- I never really thought anyone 'important' owned that house. I always figured it was a Muggle, it just didn't seem very important to me.
To me, the way it was worded, it sounded like a Muggle from that village owned the house. Otherwise, why would they bother explaining away why they owned it? | Agreed. If a wizard owned the house who would have explained to the peoiple in the town why it was owned? |
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01-28-2006, 04:12 AM
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| | Glumbumble
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Mr. Riddle (Voldemort's grandfather) owned the house
Would then pass (presumably to Tom Riddle Sr.)
Voldemort killed his grandfather and father, the house is now un-owned.
Third party purchases the house for 'tax reasons', likely muggles, wizards don't pay taxes.
Third party has Frank live on the estate
Third party never visits the estate over a long period of time
Frank lives on estate, owners don't. He may have legal claim to ownership.
Voldemort kills Frank, the house goes back to Third Party owners (likely muggles, Wizards don't pay taxes).
Third party, muggle owners, now certainly own the house.
Sorry Tom, your muggle dad's house is owned by a Muggle, because you killed him. Isn't that a kicker?
| Yaa i agree with this Voldermort cannot inherit the house since he slayed his father & grand parents who were the legal owners. |
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03-31-2006, 10:08 PM
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| RFFC PresidentDTFC Promotions Officer Chizpurfle
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Najini First | a muggle, who has bought it but dosent live in it. |
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04-15-2006, 02:08 PM
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| | Puffskein
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| well while voldemort was young it was owned by the riddles's-tom's grandparents and his father-who still lived there at the time. but after they were killed by tom a bunch of people bought the house but it was said that no one stayed very long because they got scared-most likley from stories about how frank was a killer,by the town folk- but then this one rich guy bought it but he didn't live and he said that he kept it for tax reasons. he was also nice enough to let frank keep his job as gardener. but i know this is off topic but do you think the town folk did after they found out about franks death. and if they didn't find out what happened(if he is still there it probaly smells horrible) |
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06-27-2006, 12:20 PM
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| Italian Lang. Mod LPFC Spam Controller JPFC's 100th Member Erkling
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Katie Kay Third Ministry RPG Name:
Emily Drage | umm not quite sure who owns it coz i have been thinking about that alot lately  |
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07-18-2006, 10:56 PM
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| Bellatrix LestrangeDraco's DirectorDramione=OTP Demiguise
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Serena Bullard | Voldemort himself could own the house. After all, after Hogwarts he had jobs, so he had money. |
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08-04-2006, 06:45 PM
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| James’ Princess
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Second | I think the house is just sitting there overlooking the village with no one inside. Or 1 of Voldies followers could be taking care of the house.  |
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09-02-2006, 07:59 PM
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| | Clabbert
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| In the book, it said that someone owned the house. I don't really think that the owner of the house will have any siginficance later |
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10-17-2006, 01:32 PM
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| SS Addict Clabbert
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First | I'm not sure anyone own the house anymore. I'm not sure if it is important to the plot now. J.K. did say we'll find out more about Tom Riddle's past. I don't think the house will play an important role in futuer events though. We'll hear about it in the past tense. This is just my belife. |
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11-18-2006, 12:44 PM
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| | Grindylow
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Hogwarts RPG Name: unsorted | i just think that being the son of the owner of the house it should be owned by voldermort... im tired sorry lol |
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11-24-2006, 01:45 AM
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| | Puffskein
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Originally Posted by dobby1989 Ok well since ive been trying to re read GoF over and over I will try and answer...
I keep reading the first chapter than stopping for a week, then starting over again so yeah... lol anywho
I think that house is just abandoned now, since the old man who was the 'caretaker' for the house was killed I guess no one owns it now. Tom did live in that house when he wasnt at hogwarts im almost sure of it. Almost. And then he killed his parents got away with it changed his name and blah blah. So to answer, the Riddles owned the house while Frank was the gardener guy. Then the Riddles were killed and Tom is not in the picture anymore.... so I think that left Frank in charge... well since he took care of it no matter what, he lived in the other house right there the gardener house place. And so now he is killed and his wife dies later on... and now no one has it. Its right in a muggle neighborhood so i doubt the Malfoys would own it. And if they did, what use would it be to them. Grrr im so sorry if that was hard to understand I need to get off soon my eyes are all gittery lol. | Haha, I understand it, and that's how I feel as well. |
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11-28-2006, 02:52 PM
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| | Chizpurfle
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Sixth | How would you like to be the tax collector who walks up to LV and tells him he owes 13 years of back taxes? LV does not own the house, he just uses it. |
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11-28-2006, 07:20 PM
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| | Chizpurfle
Location: Southern NJ Join Date: Jul 2006
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| I'm sure it's some remaining, second cousin or other. Senior Tom Riddle did not recogize Voldie as his son after the Love Spell ended. So I don't think Voldie rightfully owns it.
Voldie seems pretty found of that house though as he decided to use it as a hideout. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that he has one of his horcruxes hidden in the house. After all that's where he commited his first murders... so I guess it has sentimental value for him... |
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12-29-2006, 12:26 AM
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| Pokemonkey Imp
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Mandy Third | Wouldn't it be lawfully his house?  Since he is the last remaining Riddle... That would be a good idea hiding a horxus there. (Sorry bout all the spelling) |
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04-24-2008, 08:47 PM
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| | Doxy
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Amy Third | I think that you may be on to something with the Malfoy's owning the Riddle house, it would seem to fit, and I don't know why...but it seems likely |
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