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Goblet of Fire Harry's 4th year at Hogwarts - year of The Tri-Wizard Tournament.

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Old 04-28-2005, 02:15 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Bravo! That sounds right!
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Old 05-15-2005, 08:44 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Yeah, i think portkeys can be activated not only by time, but by touch. He might have charmed it so that the first person to touch the cup gets transported. So when Harry and Cedric touch it at exactly the same time, they both go. Thats my theory anyway...

Thats what I was thinking
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Old 06-27-2005, 05:22 PM   #28 (permalink)
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it is set for a certain amount of time, so he could of set it from the start of the tournament till like 5 hours on
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Old 07-07-2005, 10:51 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Yeah, i think portkeys can be activated not only by time, but by touch. He might have charmed it so that the first person to touch the cup gets transported. So when Harry and Cedric touch it at exactly the same time, they both go. Thats my theory anyway...
i have to agree with this.
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Old 08-11-2005, 07:54 PM   #30 (permalink)
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I think that the idea of portkeys are awesome. I also thought that they were rather useful for the Quidditch World Cup. Although it wasn't too nice that the trophy in the maze was made as a portkey, since it wasn't going to a good place for lack of a better term, lol. I wonder what would have happened if only Cedric had taken the triwizard cup? Although I wonder whether apparition or portkeys are a more comfortable way to travel. Hmm...
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Old 08-18-2005, 11:12 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Yes, Im so confused now. More than ever!
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Old 11-03-2005, 07:06 PM   #32 (permalink)
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i think the tri wizard cup was, like has been said before, was a touch based portkey... how ever on the point of how it got them back to the stadium is where it gets muddy.. i think that dumboldore was the one who reactivated the port key like he did for harry in the ootp with the statue. however i am not saying anyone is wrong that is just my idea.... i love hearing theories it really gets me thinking
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Old 01-21-2006, 06:07 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Yeah i agree. It was Harry's parents that told him to let go. Their echo...............so that's how he got back.
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Old 01-26-2006, 04:26 AM   #34 (permalink)
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[quote]Well, if you remember, at the end of the book 5 Dumbledore tells Harry that Mad Eye wasn't really Mad Eye. He was replaced by someone else--used the Polyjuice Potion. So in theory, Mad Eye didn't really put the portkey in the maze, someone else did. Can't remember for sure who, but Mad Eye was not the one that made the triwizard cup a portkey. I think it was one of Voldemort's supporters[quote]
I think it was preplanned by the death eaters so that harry gets transported to the voldermort.
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Old 02-04-2006, 06:14 PM   #35 (permalink)
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yes, Moody planned it out that Harry would touch the cup first.
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Old 04-15-2006, 03:25 PM   #36 (permalink)
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madeye made sure that harry got to the cup so that he would be transported to voldemort.portkeys can be used at anytime like at the quidditch world cup they were used to get there and then after the deathmark when everyone waited til morning to go home they used the same portkeys.
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Old 06-27-2006, 11:55 AM   #37 (permalink)
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u have got me confused but i think that mad eye set it all up n i dont remember the portkey at the world cup thing disscarded
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'You had an easier time of it then you should have done tonight of course' said Moody. 'That was because I was patrolling around it, able to see through the outer hedges, able to curse many obstacles out of your way. I stunned Fleur Delacour as she passed, I put the Imperius Curse on krum, so that he would finish Diggory, and leave your path to the cup clear'

i mean this totally explains why harry got into the portkey first. as for how it brought harry back and forth, it was definitely a charm.
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Old 10-19-2006, 08:47 PM   #39 (permalink)

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yea, it was a charm, and i think that the spell was new, that's why it was ok for Harry to touch the portkey. Moody must have put it on when he was sure that Harry would touch the portkey. But if Moody was patrolling the hedges, why didn't he attack Cedric?
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Old 10-27-2006, 01:40 PM   #40 (permalink)
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A portkey is a transportation devise which can be programmed any way you desire.
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Old 11-18-2006, 12:34 PM   #41 (permalink)
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not to be mean but i think you need to re read the book again... its a portkey they dont get discarded they get taken away so they can be used again not so they can be thrown away... its a port between 2 places you can use it as much as you want!
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Old 11-18-2006, 06:06 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Once created by using the Portus spell, a portkey can be set to transport anybody who touches it to a designated location, or to become active at a pre-determined time and transport to that location anybody who happens to be touching it at the moment.

Also the Department of Ministries, Portkey Office, must give authority before the caster can create a portkey.

I believe an object that appears to be worthless junk is used so attention isn't drawn to the portkey. If a muggle came upon a mucky old boot in a field they woudn't pick it up. But if it was an object of worth they might. Even though a muggle coudn't use it, neither could the wizard who placed it there.
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Old 11-24-2006, 01:42 AM   #43 (permalink)
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No, remember, when Moody/Crouch Jr told Harry, Dumbledore and co about what he did (under the influence of Veritaserum), he mentions that he tried to make sure that Harry got to the cup first...hold on, I’ll type the quote up here ...*runs to get book*

'You had an easier time of it then you should have done tonight of course' said Moody. 'That was because I was patrolling around it, able to see through the outer hedges, able to curse many obstacles out of your way. I stunned Fleur Delacour as she passed, I put the Imperius Curse on krum, so that he would finish Diggory, and leave your path to the cup clear'

Ok, so basically, moody (Crouch Jr ) had guided Harry through all his tasks to make sure he would win and get transported to Voldemort.
This is my theory, and I also believe that it is activated by touch.
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Muggles could use it though... right? In the book Mr. Weasley says 'we wouldn't want muggles to pick them up and start playing with them.' when he is talking to Harry.
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Old 02-06-2007, 04:44 AM   #45 (permalink)
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Obviously there is more than one way to activate a Portkey. The one used to get to the World Cup was probably activated in a different way to the maze one. Crouch got Harry there first and it was made so that when it was touched, it took them to the graveyard.
As for it getting back, obviously Harry was supposed to die so maybe the plan was that Voldemort and/or his Death Eaters use it as their path back to attack with a huge element of surprise. Thats my theory on it.
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I agree with the whole "portkeys activated by touch" thing, but I don't understand how it could be re-used to get back. Maybe they used a special kind of spell or something. Like they can send Patronuses with messages. An advanced way to do it. I don't know...
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i know that Mad Eye made it easier and made sure Harry got to the cup.
but your right isnt there a specific time the portkey leaves?
like at the begininng of GoF, Mr. Weasley is like we have to hurry and get to the portkey!
i think you can choose tho..it can be activated by touch too i guess.

but i dont know how it transported them back..
was that just in the movie? cant remember..
but thats weird. unless its a special kind of portkey? idk.
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Old 06-16-2008, 06:10 PM   #48 (permalink)
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It's definite that Crouch charmed the Tri Cup so that whoever touched it first would be transported to the graveyard. He manipulated the third task so that Harry would touch the cup first (Cedric wasn't supposed to have touched it at all). It's possible that a Portkey is only active for a certain amount of time while it's charmed, but the transport to the World Cup was a different situation than with Crouch. The World Cup Portkeys were set up at certain points of time all over the world, while Crouch only needed that cup to work once. Whether or not Portkeys are for one way transport is kinda irrelevant, I think. Portkeys are for quick transport, and I'm sure that wizards can set them up in any matter they please. I mean, who saw the Tri Cup being a Portkey ahead of time? Not me
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but i still thought portkeys could only be used once.
didn't Mr. Weasley say something about that in GoF?
like Harry asked where are we going? and he was like we have to get to the other portkey?
or something like that..haha cant remember.
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Old 06-30-2008, 09:54 PM   #50 (permalink)
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I thought that portkeys went only one way but its a Magical world and you never know what will happen. Exspect the unexspected
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