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Old 09-23-2011, 08:37 PM   #76 (permalink)
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Agree with all of this.
As do I. Most people that I met here realize that it is immature to say that most Slytherins are evil. Three reasons:
1 They are children. Children aren't like that. True, there are rare cases in real life where a child came up very cold, but these news cases are very rare. There are more than 100 Slytherins at Hogwarts, more than one hundred children.( Rowling noted that she imagines Hogwarts having 600 students, so there are probably 150 Slytherins.) The few people who say that Slytherins are bad are basing what they say on a small minority. We are shown less than 10 Slytherin students in the series, out of a much larger number. Some people WANT to say that Slytherin is an evil house. I think this is because they are used to reading books made up of black and white, and they want to see the "villians", even if that means saying that children are villians. It is understandable when very young children think that(Although most fans who are children know better!), but it is disturbing when adults think they are evil. I find it very disturbing that there were adults in the theater of Deathly Hallows who supported Minervas choice to send children to the Dungeons. That is a war crime. Think about what we would think of we read something like this in the news. Many people get uncomfortable when I say this, but it is the truth. You can't justify arresting children.

2 There are many instances in the books where we get hints that there are many good Slytherins. In number one we hear that six years in a row the Slytherins won the house cup. It was not the Draco type who earned those points, and I can tell you right now that they didn't just get those points from Snape! One teacher can't outweigh all the others. In Chamber of Secrets, almost all the Slytherins clapped along with everyone else when Minerva said that the students would get cured. In three, many Slytherins clapp when Harry masters Buckbeak. In four, half of them stand up with the other students for Cedric. We have no proof for number five. In six, we get Slughorn.

3 Rowling herself has stated twice that most Slytherins aren't as bad as Draco. She did this with the owners of Mugglenet.

Really, it is only when a sticker book for kids labels Slytherins sa "Forces of Darkness" get all excited and say that it is right.

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That's a really good question. I'm not sure. Well, I think that if Harry was sorted into Slytherin, then he would be moree of a slytherin personality. Then that would mean that snape might like him a bit more. But then again, he really can't the site of the proof that Lily lovd another. Hmm... now you've really got me puzzled! Grr! I'm gonna be thinking about this now like all day!
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Hehe. I guess I got off topic with my Slytherin debate. Yes, I am a bit unsure about Snape. Snape is a hard case, it is hard to predict what he will do next or what he will think.(Unless of course Harry is in the room, in which case you can always bet he will do say something nasty.) I would say that Snape MIGHT treat Harry better, but perhaps not. If Harry were a girl, then he would for sure like Harry more, but Harry looks like James.
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As do I. Most people that I met here realize that it is immature to say that most Slytherins are evil. Three reasons:
1 They are children. Children aren't like that. True, there are rare cases in real life where a child came up very cold, but these news cases are very rare. There are more than 100 Slytherins at Hogwarts, more than one hundred children.( Rowling noted that she imagines Hogwarts having 600 students, so there are probably 150 Slytherins.) The few people who say that Slytherins are bad are basing what they say on a small minority. We are shown less than 10 Slytherin students in the series, out of a much larger number. Some people WANT to say that Slytherin is an evil house. I think this is because they are used to reading books made up of black and white, and they want to see the "villians", even if that means saying that children are villians. It is understandable when very young children think that(Although most fans who are children know better!), but it is disturbing when adults think they are evil. I find it very disturbing that there were adults in the theater of Deathly Hallows who supported Minervas choice to send children to the Dungeons. That is a war crime. Think about what we would think of we read something like this in the news. Many people get uncomfortable when I say this, but it is the truth. You can't justify arresting children.

2 There are many instances in the books where we get hints that there are many good Slytherins. In number one we hear that six years in a row the Slytherins won the house cup. It was not the Draco type who earned those points, and I can tell you right now that they didn't just get those points from Snape! One teacher can't outweigh all the others. In Chamber of Secrets, almost all the Slytherins clapped along with everyone else when Minerva said that the students would get cured. In three, many Slytherins clapp when Harry masters Buckbeak. In four, half of them stand up with the other students for Cedric. We have no proof for number five. In six, we get Slughorn.

3 Rowling herself has stated twice that most Slytherins aren't as bad as Draco. She did this with the owners of Mugglenet.

Really, it is only when a sticker book for kids labels Slytherins "Villians" that people get all excited and say that it is right.
I'm sure you're right. But the way JKR portraited the Slytherins in the books, it's not that hard to see them as "the evil house". Draco and his gang do many nasty things, and when the trio formed Dumbledore's Army, it consisted of Gryffindors, Ravenclaws and Hufflepuffs, but no Slytherins. I know we only get to see a minority of the Slytherin students, but unfortunately, we could see a pattern. So while I agree with you, that not all Slytherins are evil, I sure can understand why some people think so.
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I'm sure you're right. But the way JKR portraited the Slytherins in the books, it's not that hard to see them as "the evil house". Draco and his gang do many nasty things, and when the trio formed Dumbledore's Army, it consisted of Gryffindors, Ravenclaws and Hufflepuffs, but no Slytherins. I know we only get to see a minority of the Slytherin students, but unfortunately, we could see a pattern. So while I agree with you, that not all Slytherins are evil, I sure can understand why some people think so.
I can also understand why children would think that. But no Slytherins were invited to join D.A., so they couldn't have come. Glad you agree, though.
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But then, why weren't any Slytherins invited to join the D.A.? Because it seemed like they all supported Umbridge and were her little minions, so they couldn't be trusted with the knowledge of a secret club going on at Hogwarts. There could very well have been a Slytherin or two, who would have wanted to join the D.A., if someone had asked them, but I guess we'll never know.
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But then, why weren't any Slytherins invited to join the D.A.? Because it seemed like they all supported Umbridge and were her little minions, so they couldn't be trusted with the knowledge of a secret club going on at Hogwarts. There could very well have been a Slytherin or two, who would have wanted to join the D.A., if someone had asked them, but I guess we'll never know.
Actually, in practical terms, I would have not invited them either. Harry didn't know any Slytherins except Draco and his minions. He wouldn't know which ones were on friendly terms with Umbridge, as you said, or her squad. So it was a smart thing to do, although it says nothing about Slytherin.
If you remember, Harry didn't really plan to even invite all that he did. Ron was utterly disgusted that Smith was invited, and Hermione said that she couldn't say no after he had heard her talking with Ernie. Most of the people invited were Gryffindors, or people that Harry trusted and knew. He trusted Cho, and he must have assumed that her friend was also trustworthy. I don't think it was so much a point of who you couldn't trust, but who you could trust.
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My opinion on this is:
I feel that Harry would still be Harry if he were sorted into Slytherin. My reasons being that he does have the resourcefulness and determination it takes to be in that house, while he still cares for his friends and family and wants to protect them. I find, from the book anyway, that we're supposed to hate Slytherin because JKR wants us to be on Harry's side and share in his battle. I also feel that Harry's father should have been in Slytherin. From all the scenes we see of him, James is being rather a jerk to Snape. He's very much like Malfoy. He got a big kick out of embarrassing Snape every chance he got. Not something I'd expect from a Gryffindor.
I see the hat as something that isn't fool-proof. Harry didn't want to be in Slytherin so the hat sorted him in Gryffindor, Hermonie should have been in Ravenclaw, but for reasons unknown was in Gryffindor. Sirius was in Gryffindor, but he has a huge disregard for the rules and it seems Slytherin was a better fit. However, he loathed his family so much he may have asked not to be placed in the same House as the rest. His brother Regulus was in Slytherin, however, he showed Kreacher a kindness that no one else had which is why Kreacher adored him. He also tried to help stop Voldemort even though he had been a Death Eater. So all these examples just prove to me that no matter what House you're in, you're going to be yourself unless you wish to be a follower.
Now after my long explanation of why I think Harry will always be Harry regardless of his House. I think Snape would have always hated him because of his father. Maybe his hate would have downgraded to dislike, but I don't think he'd ever truly like Harry because of James. Let's remember that Harry looks just like James except his eyes. Seeing Harry would remind Snape of all the humiliation he had to endure from his father. I think what Snape already did for Harry would have been the limit, and that he did it for Lily, not for Harry and certainly not for James.

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I agree, and you see, Snape for example, he's in Slytherin House but he built friendship with Lily evn though she's a muggleborn and in fact he loved her. When Lily died, Snape continued loving her he even protected and helped Harry even though Harry is also James' son and even though it cost him his life. He was just probably sorted in Slytherin because of his passion with dark arts, he was sorted there....
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I agree, and you see, Snape for example, he's in Slytherin House but he built friendship with Lily evn though she's a muggleborn and in fact he loved her. When Lily died, Snape continued loving her he even protected and helped Harry even though Harry is also James' son and even though it cost him his life. He was just probably sorted in Slytherin because of his passion with dark arts, he was sorted there....
That is not a Slytherin trait, or at least it's not something the Hat speaks of. Snape was sorted into Slytherin because he was cunning.
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I kind of picture Harry still trying to sneak out so he can hang with Ron and Hermione. And for that, I think Snape would still act nasty toward him.
i can totally see that happening!!!
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Harrys relationship with Snape would have been alot better. His hatred for Harry would have caused trouble Slytherin house. The Slytherin boys would probably have accepted him as a boy. His abiility to win quidditch games would mke him everyones friend. Snape would have loved him to be on their team instead of griffindor. The dark lord would probably have been able to get into into Slytherin house easier because he may have bribed Malfoy and got into Slytherin and killed Harry.
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Harrys relationship with Snape would have been alot better. His hatred for Harry would have caused trouble Slytherin house. The Slytherin boys would probably have accepted him as a boy. His abiility to win quidditch games would mke him everyones friend. Snape would have loved him to be on their team instead of griffindor. The dark lord would probably have been able to get into into Slytherin house easier because he may have bribed Malfoy and got into Slytherin and killed Harry.
Haha, that's a good prediction, very thorough.
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Snape would have been curious, as Lilly and James son is in a different house, but he is still Jame's son, and Lilly,s so the dynamics would have been unchanged.
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Personally, I think Snape will still be cold to Harry. He will be the only Slytherin hated by Snape. I don't think Snape will have any changes of feeling to Harry, Slytherin or not.
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Did Snape really ever hate Harry?

I mean, Snape wanted to, but he I don't think he ever did.
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How can you doubt that he hated Harry? He treated him like crap from the first time he met him!
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He hated the idea of Harry as he represented James and Lily's relationship, and reminded him of James.
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poor Snape ... It was sure hard for him, to see Harry in the eyes. Every time when he saw Harry, he remember to Lily Evans his big love. And it's his fault, that she dies .. what a life. I can understand Snape, even I didn't like him. He hated James, because Lily married him ... poor Snape
I agree, snape kinda had only half a life, I don't understand why snape's love for Lily didn't come out more than his hatred for james!? Love is more powerful than hatred, right? If harry was a slytherin, maybe snape would just see more Lily in him, it would also be better for slytherin, if harry was slytherin and draco was gryffindor, maybe slytherin would have a little more love! 💗💝💘! If it was hufflepuff that produced the most death eaters, would people hate them; no! It's just because, Draco, voldemort, belletrix, ect. we're in it, what about snape, albus potter, maybe some fantastic beasts people could have been a slytherin, if they went to hogwarts. Wait, I've gone completely of subject. 🐍snake forever!!!!!!!!! :') .
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I agree, snape kinda had only half a life, I don't understand why snape's love for Lily didn't come out more than his hatred for james!? Love is more powerful than hatred, right? If harry was a slytherin, maybe snape would just see more Lily in him, it would also be better for slytherin, if harry was slytherin and draco was gryffindor, maybe slytherin would have a little more love! ������! If it was hufflepuff that produced the most death eaters, would people hate them; no! It's just because, Draco, voldemort, belletrix, ect. we're in it, what about snape, albus potter, maybe some fantastic beasts people could have been a slytherin, if they went to hogwarts. Wait, I've gone completely of subject. ��snake forever!!!!!!!!! :') .
But if you think about it, most of the Slytherins did everything wrong to give their house that reputation. It was neither Gryffindor, Hufflepuff nor Ravenclaw, who gave Voldemort the most Death Eaters. It was neither Gryffindors, Hufflepuffs nor Ravenclaws, who seemed to be the most eager to join Umbridge's sick investigation squad (and no Slytherin joined the DA). So even though Gryffindors, Hufflepuffs and Ravenclaws could make their own heaps of mistakes as well (remember that Gryffindor gave us Peter Pettigrew and Ravenclaw gave us Marietta Edgecombe), Slytherins were the most likely to make the worst choices.

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i think the story would be entirely different!!
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