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Old 08-07-2007, 08:41 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Who else thinks that Remus and Dora were a bit... wow, rushed?
I mean, we find out in the first chapter that they're married, and I just fall off my chair and go "What, really?". Then, we find out a month or less later that Tonks is pregnant, which shocked me even more! And then we hear nothing of them until the Spring, when it's suddenly announced that she's had the baby! Does anyone else agree with me that it was (although very very very brilliantly amazingly) rushed?
Yes, Yes and more Yes!!!

Lupin went from not wanting to be with Tonks because of the werewolf and age- things - to rushing and getting married.

I got the impression that Lupin married Tonks soo quickly because she was pregnant.

Lupin was standing by Tonks to do the right thing eventhough he thought it wasn't really the right for Tonks in the long run, but he loved her anyway!?!

Lupin didn't look happy about the marriage early on in the book. And then when he shows up at 12 Grimwauld Place and wants to leave the pregnant Tonks and join up with Harry?

Then not only does Lopin and Tonks get killed but so does poor Ted Tonks. So Tonks single mom has to raise her grandson- alone. Harry certainly can't eventhough he is the godfather because he is only 17.

Lupin and Tonks were both brave and loyal to the Order beyond measure. But if I had a newborn baby at home- I don't think I would have shown up at Hogwarts to fight in the final battle. At least one of them should have stayed behind with the baby.
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Old 08-08-2007, 01:55 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Then not only does Lopin and Tonks get killed but so does poor Ted Tonks. So Tonks single mom has to raise her grandson- alone. Harry certainly can't eventhough he is the godfather because he is only 17.

Lupin and Tonks were both brave and loyal to the Order beyond measure. But if I had a newborn baby at home- I don't think I would have shown up at Hogwarts to fight in the final battle. At least one of them should have stayed behind with the baby.

I agree it was rushed to...I deffinately wanted to hear more about them.

I would like to think that even though Harry wasn't old enough to take care of Teddy himself yet, that perhaps he went by and spent alot of time with him as he was growing up and helped out however he could.

Lupin was of course an extremely loyal member of the Order as well as Tonks but you know if Lupin showed up to fight as of course he would because he believed that was the only thing he was good for, there was no way Tonks was letting him go off and do it alone. She loved him too much to let him go off and fight without going to protect her man. I would've done the same thing. Yes, even with a baby at home.
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Then again, Lupin was not the only one to put their family in jeporday... Nelville's grandmother was eventually on the run, not to mention all of the Weaslys! I thought it was fitting for Lupin and Tonks to marry, to be honest. I guess a kid is just natural after that... I think Little Ted will grow up with the same desires as Harry (if he were to stand in front of the mirror, he would most likely see his parents as did Dumbledore and The Boy Who Lived), but it may make him stronger in the end.
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Old 08-08-2007, 03:38 PM   #54 (permalink)
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That deffinately makes sense. I love the idea about the mirror. It's sad but would make the most sense.
It was after all a time of war, and let's face it...everybody was fighting against something.
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Then again, Lupin was not the only one to put their family in jeporday... Nelville's grandmother was eventually on the run, not to mention all of the Weaslys! I thought it was fitting for Lupin and Tonks to marry, to be honest. I guess a kid is just natural after that... I think Little Ted will grow up with the same desires as Harry (if he were to stand in front of the mirror, he would most likely see his parents as did Dumbledore and The Boy Who Lived), but it may make him stronger in the end.
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Lupin was one of my favorite characters in the story. I just really bugged me that he would have left Tonks and the baby to join Harry's quest.

I understand he was scared, nervoused, stressed, whatever. But Lupin saw what Harry went through when he lost his parents. Why woulld ge do that to his wife and his son - if he didn't have too? That just seemed a little out of his charcter to me - more like something the other maurdeers would do.

I also understand that they were in a war. So their feelings were heightened. I'm sure that Tonks/Lupin getting married and having a baby shows that life goes on even in war.

But I don't think they showed one moment in the book when Lupin was happy being with Tonks and that was sad too. The only parr was when he came to tell them she had the baby. I thought Tonks would have a bigger role in DH, too.
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I think it was a little rushed but what do expect when you barely see them in the book.
I saw the connection with both harry and neville. Having no parents like harry and having some else take care of Ted, both harry and neville but more neville because neville grandmother took care of him. Just like Ted now.
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I didn't even think about that! Very good connection... I think it's amazing how Neville's character changed so drastically!


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You can compare the Wizarding Worlds War (lol WW1 & WW2 maybe? ww = wizard war) to the baby boomer generation! Perhaps they would have the same effect.



Then again, I also feel that the releationship was rushed... if only a little. Maybe there was a longer history for them than the book shows. Maybe a long running crush, or something of that sort. (*shrugs*)


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There must have been more going on with Lupin/Tonks then we saw or knew. It's hard because the story is through Harry's eyes - so if he didn't see it - we don't.

I still think they got married soo quickly because Tonks was going to have a baby. That would explain why their relationship was rushed in DH.

I hope JKR does an encyclopedia it will encluded more of the Lupin/Tonks back story.
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I agree in that I found Lupin's actions of abandonment to be rather out of character. When I was reading it, I felt like I was reading another character acting that out and not him. It just didn't seem right. It was a role reversal for Harry and Lupin but I thought it just read and felt awkward.
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Um... yeah. last book they were just getting to know each other, and then, this one, they are married with a kid!! I think you should know your spouse for longer than a year (or so) b4 you marry them!!
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I feel it was a bit rushed to..like the getting Whoa married then suddenly a baby.
But like Molly Weasley said in what I think was the 6 book was that war makes people rush things or do irrational things.. something like that, i think she was talking about Bill and Fleurs marrige.
I guess Tonks&Remus wanted to have the baby before something happened....
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They WERE a bit rushed, but I'm thinking JK did it so that we'd be able to see how Teddy turns out in the end. I'm glad they got together and had a kid
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a little rushed, but they needed the baby before the parents died!
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I just wished that in the epilogue it told you ore about him. i mean, he's 19-years-old at least and he's making out wiht some chick named victiore (which I assume is Bill and Fleur's daughter) who's still in Hogwarts! and I guess he's a metamorphmagi to at least some degree because of the tuft of bright turqouise when he was a baby. It devastated me when Remus and Tonks died. I wonder who Teddy's living with? Or who he did live with.
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I was under the assumption that Victoire was older, possibly in her last year, considering when Bill and Fleur married and I don't think Rowling would create such a gap in ages either. I don't think the gap would be any more than what's between Harry and Ginny, which is two years.
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^ you have a point. I'd still like to know what color his hair is though. It really surprised me when lupin almost ran out on his family. I thought he was tougher than that. but I unerstand that he didn't Teddy to grow up with a werewolf as a father. I would've been proud of who my dad was! I think what Harry said to him was a little harsh but I guess it made him go back to Tonks!
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Old 08-16-2007, 05:22 PM   #67 (permalink)
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I don't know, I mean... Two of my fav. characters maried! I loved it.. But Teddy came a little fast....
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I don't think the Tonks/Lupin romance was rushed into at all. I mean there's a war going on for heaven's sake! Molly said it herself that "last time" people were getting married left, right, and center! I mean they needed to get married before it was too late! And they might not have even planned for a baby if you know what I mean but it just happened. In real life people rush romances much faster than Tonks and Lupin and they're not even under complicated circumstances. So I think that we should just be happy for them.
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i don't think their story was rushed...although, the lack of details about their relationship and how it progressed, left me with questions...anyhow, i still love them...and i also saw the parallelism with harry and teddy's life...
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Not really. Lupin just didn't really want to tell everyone about the baby.
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Seemed pretty typical of a war-type situation to me. Plus, the ol' heartstrings had to be tugged at!
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I don't think it's too rushed on account of there being a massive Wizarding war taking place. They were in love, and that's all that they needed. I think that it made sense since Voldemort was taking over. They wanted to make their life together while they still could, which is completely understandable. Also, this relationship between Dora and Remus seems to be a long time coming. They met through the Order of the Phoenix, reinstating after Voldemort regained his body. At the end of Half-Blood Prince, we know that Dora wanted Remus and Remus was only denying her because he was a werewolf. I don't think it was too rushed considering the war against Voldemort.

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Their relationship was stated in book six, but it was still somewhat rushed because, till the end of HBP, Remus was unwilling to marry Tonks; we don't get to see their romance develop but, I think, in the bigger plot, it fits. There simply was not time to focus much on their relationship's development. Still, I do think Jo could have detailed it a little bit more.

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I thought it was rushed, most definitely.
Like you said, it was WHAM! WHAM! WHAM!
We didn't see any development of their relationship, and, yes ok, people could argue a lot that that doesn't mean it didn't happen behind the scenes, but we didn't see a lot for Fleur and Bill either, but they worked because JK initiated their relationship bit by bit, rather than in huge chunks.

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It all happened so fast. One minute there married suddenly and then Tonks is pregnant!
I want JKR to write the story of Remus and Tonks because it was a little bit confusing how all of a sudden they were married.
I know they had to do it in secret but confused me a bit!
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