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12-07-2004, 01:19 PM
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WHOA!! Hang on a moment!
All right, listen closely:
How would you reacat if you'd get a letter home, telling you that you're a witch/wizard? You'd probably think it's a joke, but if you'd think "wow, cool!", then how can you get Wizardsmoney to buy the stuff needed? And where WOULD you buy that stuff?
Ah, so conclusion: Someone has to tell you. The letter could, I guess, but would your parents let you travel away to a magical school in Scotland when you're eleven? Hmmm... probably not, right? So we have a few problems:
1/ The letter could describe the way to Diagon Alley, but would your parents take you? Think not.
2/ Would they let you go? Think not.
All right, lets try and solve these things: Hmm.. Maybe we send the Headmaster of the School or the Head Deputy to do that? Okay, sounds better, doesn't it? Right. But how does your parents take Dumbledore or Minerva on their doorstep? Doesn't someone have to tell them that it's real? Okay, let's send a worker from the Ministry with them. That WOULD work better, right?
Okay, Hermione says that he was shocked (or something in the lines of that) when her letter arrived. But does that explain her friendship with Minerva? No.
Petunia says when Hagrig comes to get Harry: "They (her parents) were THRILLED when the letter came." Hum, so we know that there was a letter, but nothing else? Also, when Harry gets his letter, it's just a letter, because Petunia knows about the magical world.
How would this then happend: Let's say Petunia's parents, both or just one of them, were a Squib, what would that do? Yes, the introduction of the macigal world would already be there, so there didn't have to be anything else than a letter.
If Lily's and Petunia's parents were Squibs, that would explain a lot. Think about it and bless my boyfriend for thinking too much.
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12-07-2004, 01:43 PM
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^ That's quite off topic there, but yes, JK Rowling has stated that a worker from the ministery or a messenger or someone does come to muggle families to explain the whole thing, and tell you how to get to Diagon Alley and Platform 9&3/4 and everything. The reason no-one came to Harry at first was because it was all explained in the letter that Dumbledore left when Harry arrived there.
I think it's pretty safe to assume that Lily & Petunia's parents were muggles, but it is possible that they somehow knew about the magical world? I don't know...
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12-14-2004, 04:12 AM
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In my opinion, I don't think that Petunia is a squib. She's probably too jealous of Lily's ability to do magic and she can't. But she's actually interested in learning magic. So whenever Lily's not around, Petunia might've sneaked inside her room or something and read on magic, getting more information about it. Coz' when you're interested in something, you go to lengths to obtain it.
That's probably how Petunia knows about the Wizarding World and such. But one day, she realised that this isn't getting her anywhere... so much knowledge and nothing to do. She hated Lily for that, to be able to perform magic while she couldn't. So Petunia decided to quit and focus on the muggle world. She secretly knows about the magic world by heart but is afraid of Vernon and his hatred for the Wizarding World.
That's just a theory I have.
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12-14-2004, 12:27 PM
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| But Petunia had so much bitterness for her sister. She might just be a squib and it to afraid to tell her husband. She night be afraid that her husband will leave her. So she keeps her secret quite and just destroys herself with it. That also may be why she keeps Harry around and why she is so mean. Some people get pleasure is destroying themselves. So she keeps Harry around to remind herself of what she could not have been. Or maybe, just maybe, she loved her sister after all and having Harry around reminds her of Lily.
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12-14-2004, 12:29 PM
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But yes deara Jessie. the sibling COULD be muggle. He/she could also be a squib. There are many options to that route, but most likely Petunia is a squib.
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12-14-2004, 03:31 PM
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No.
Lily and Petunia's parents were not magical
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12-14-2004, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Laci Green But yes deara Jessie. the sibling COULD be muggle. He/she could also be a squib. There are many options to that route, but most likely Petunia is a squib. The only way Petunia would be a squib was if her parents were magical. And they were not. Since Lily is considered to have muggle parents.
JK said it was possible for one sibling to have no magical abilities and the other one to have them. Look at the plans she had for a possible sister for Hermione (who would have never attended Hogwarts because she was not magical).
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12-14-2004, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Arista_Wood In my opinion, I don't think that Petunia is a squib. She's probably too jealous of Lily's ability to do magic and she can't. But she's actually interested in learning magic. So whenever Lily's not around, Petunia might've sneaked inside her room or something and read on magic, getting more information about it. Coz' when you're interested in something, you go to lengths to obtain it.
That's probably how Petunia knows about the Wizarding World and such. But one day, she realised that this isn't getting her anywhere... so much knowledge and nothing to do. She hated Lily for that, to be able to perform magic while she couldn't. So Petunia decided to quit and focus on the muggle world. She secretly knows about the magic world by heart but is afraid of Vernon and his hatred for the Wizarding World.
That's just a theory I have. It is possible that Petunia was magical and decided not to attend Hogwarts.
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12-15-2004, 05:43 PM
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That would be a crazy twist |
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12-16-2004, 09:53 PM
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Lily's parents were both Muggles, so no. Unless the ytoo were Squibs, it's impossible... and, you know, it could be a possibility, but it's a very small, sleek one, and its rather weird. So I don't think J.K. would have done that. Y'know?
She's just rather jealous, the oddball....
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12-16-2004, 11:40 PM
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At one time i too thought perhaps petunia was a squib but in ootp in a flashback snape calls lily a mudblood, so its out of the question. Though it sure would have thrown a twist on things.
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12-18-2004, 12:30 AM
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I don't think shes a squib either sorry. Her hatred for the magical world and all magic seems true its deeper then just some cover up. Besides if she was a squib wouldn't she have bewitched every lawn in her neighborhood to die and have hers live? |
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12-25-2004, 06:38 AM
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^hehe gud point.i dont think shes a squib either.Because she has muggle parents and lilly,was lucky enough to get a lil wizard blood in her!
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12-25-2004, 06:49 AM
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I think petunia is a squib. That's why she hates LIly. She's Jealous !
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03-21-2005, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by cutestar ^hehe gud point.i dont think shes a squib either.Because she has muggle parents and lilly,was lucky enough to get a lil wizard blood in her!
Wizard blood has nothing to do with it, if it did, then we wouldn't even have squibs. Lily was just born with the ability to do magic.
A friend of mine stated recently that maybe Petunia had wanted to be able to do magic, or that at one point, she could, but failed out of Hogwarts, or was expelled and had her wand snapped.
In all honesty, she probably hated her sister, I love the movie version the way the producer had the actor seem kind of childish when she was talking about her "perfect" sister.......hehehe, completely goes along with my psychology class. Same gender siblings can't compete against eachother cos one will never measure up to the other..............my feelings are that's what Petunia went through, and after Lily went, they probably wondered why Petunia wasn't "good enough" to be like Lily and have magic. How many, muggle, parents can know that their child really isn't like any other, and why can't the other one be just as smart, just as special as her sister.............that's enough to taint Petunia's veiw, she and Lily probably got along well enough........she was just restentful.
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03-24-2005, 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by DanFan271092 Don't u think Petunia could be a squib and have hidden it from the other Dursleys and Harry the whole time? I mean, she knows about dementors, her parents were magical, her sister was a witch, she got a howler from Dumbledore and understood it, couldn't it be possible?! (Wild idea, I know, but couldn't she be one, maybe!?  ) I think that makes a creepy kind of sense, my skin is crawling.
Why else would lily's parents have been proud the day she got her Hogwarts letter?
Perhaps only one of her parents was a witch or wizard.
Don't forget JKR considers Harry to be a half blood, so techincally, mudblood could fit for Lily.
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03-24-2005, 11:28 PM
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It just might be that petunia is a squibb because lily is a wizard and no where does it say that her parents are muggles does it?
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03-24-2005, 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by tommys_tasty_treat It just might be that petunia is a squibb because lily is a wizard and no where does it say that her parents are muggles does it? Actually, it does say that Lily's parents are muggles. Sort of. In the second book/movie, Tom Riddle says, 'You'll be with your dear mudblood mother soon!'
But I still think it's possible that Petunia could be a squib. I don't know why, but I just do. |
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03-25-2005, 01:35 AM
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^^ What everyone has either forgotten or overlooked is that JK has said that Petunia is not a squib.
Why were her parents proud of her getting her letter? Because she was their perfect little girl, read my previous post and you can read more of this with out me repeating it all, hehe.
Also at JK's site:
Mudblood = person with ability to do magic, born of muggle parents
Half-Blood = person with one set of grandparents magic and one set of grandparents muggle
I encourage all to go to www.jkrowling.com and look around, lot's of information, since it is the offical site of JK and all.....
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03-26-2005, 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by adorable_lil_thing ^^ What everyone has either forgotten or overlooked is that JK has said that Petunia is not a squib.
Why were her parents proud of her getting her letter? Because she was their perfect little girl, read my previous post and you can read more of this with out me repeating it all, hehe.
Also at JK's site:
Mudblood = person with ability to do magic, born of muggle parents
Half-Blood = person with one set of grandparents magic and one set of grandparents muggle
I encourage all to go to www.jkrowling.com and look around, lot's of information, since it is the offical site of JK and all..... Sorry we're not all perfect. You could be a bit nicer... |
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03-28-2005, 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by The Cursed Erkling Sorry we're not all perfect. You could be a bit nicer...
Sure, no problem, but stop speculating on stuff JK dismissed months ago. Please. You don't even need to go to her site to see it all, although I'd advise checking it out at least once a month to keep up with the offical announcements and information. As fans, I thought everyone else would go there more than I do/can.
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03-30-2005, 12:38 AM
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I don't think Petunia's a squib. Maybe the reason why she knows about the wizarding/magical world is because of Lily. She may not have wanted to, but she IS involved with someone magical. Maybe Lily talked about Hogwarts and magic and all that at home, and Petunia just happens to hear about it all.
Maybe she IS magical, somehow, but just kind of repressed it. I don't really want to think of that though, because that means there is a possibility that Dudley could be magical too. That would be so wierd if Petunia turned out to be magical too, but just chose not to go to Hogwarts, or what if Dudley was sent a hogwarts letter too and they chose NOT to send him there? Just throwing ideas here.... sorry if these are wild!
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03-30-2005, 12:53 AM
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I try not to think about the next story line until it gets here, but I have thought about that, since PoA for some reason, but I didn't think to much of it
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03-30-2005, 09:37 PM
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| | Bundimun
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| I belive it could very well be the case. thinking about it...it would explaine why Petunia hates Lily so much, god knows I 'd hate my sister if she was a witch and I had to live with being a squib!
I mean ,it's like getting a crum of you're favorite desert and you're sister getting the whole thing !!!!pore Petunia! |
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04-25-2005, 09:05 AM
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| Purebloods Rock ! The thought occured to me but i discredited it. she certainly has magical knowledge but she definetly not a squib. If everyone were PUREBLOODS we wouldnt have these questions...*evil laugh* !
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