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Old 05-07-2005, 01:58 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Rat Lee...he turned into a rat! lol I was thinkin about this last night actually. Sirius didn't get a wand until OoTP.....and Peter had one in in GOF. Now that i think about it...he very well could have had Voldemort's wand. You know how after Sirius transformed he was wearing clothes instead of being nekkid? Well he coulda put that wand in his pocket, then ran off. Still doesn't explain why if he did have it...he didn't use it in POA.
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Anywayz Voldemort was vanquished into spirit like form, so anything he had on him would go with him, like his clothes, they didnt stay. So naturally he would keep hold of his wand etc.
Since Voldemort was transformed into a spiritlike form, wouldn't his wand be useless? Any wizard could use it but because the wand chooses the wizard it wouldn't be that powerful. And how could he keep a hold of his wand? If he did somehow manage to hang onto it when he was a spirit wouldn't it have just disappeared like his clothes then?
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Maybe Voldemort could. I mean he managed to kill the unicorn so that means he had some types of abilities in that form. Maybe Voldemort in that form stored his wand somewhere and had Peter retrieve it. Because i seriously doubt Peter woulda been caught anywhere near the Potter's home, considering he knew what was going to happen. Especially if he were there and Sirius showed up....he'd have been killed by Sirius on the spot.

Or maybe this is a JK glitch? Kinda like Montague being in Hogwarts an extra year and not saying he had failed or anything. (she said it was her mistake but she'd like to think he made the mistake lol)
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Old 05-07-2005, 09:41 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I think he wasnt alone when he attacked the Potters.. He porobly had some followers outside waiting.. I think that once they didnt hear him come out that they went in to see what had happened.. He couldnt have been very powerful.. I think he must have been a sort of "puddle" kind of form.. his followers probobly took him and his wand back to safety..

well either that or his wand has homing incstincts!! lol I doubt it though
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i doubt peter would have hung around the potters house to pick up the wand he was to busy running from sirius. it probably one of those things that will never be explained.
though i would like to know why james came out of the wand before lily he died first before voldermort even got to lily.
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No, Lily came out of the wand first. She told Harry that his father was coming remember.

And I don't think anybody was with Voldemort, or they woulda saw that he was a spirit like being. He was instantly ripped from his body into that form...they woulda saw him. He woulda waited had there been Death Eaters outside, and they woulda all knew that he was not dead. Remember they didn't know he was still around until GOF.
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[QUOTE=PHLphlyest]Maybe Voldemort could. I mean he managed to kill the unicorn so that means he had some types of abilities in that form. Maybe Voldemort in that form stored his wand somewhere and had Peter retrieve it.
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Wasn't Voldemort possessing Quirrel when he killed the unicorn? So how could he have managed to hang onto his wand? Unless it was at the house and no one noticed it there and Peter came to get it a few days later or something. Obviously since Peter was the one who had it in GoF he had to have the wand, but I don't think that he's the type to hang onto something like that for 14 years, especially considering he was pretending to be a rat.
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Maybe Voldemort could. I mean he managed to kill the unicorn so that means he had some types of abilities in that form. Maybe Voldemort in that form stored his wand somewhere and had Peter retrieve it.
Wasn't Voldemort possessing Quirrel when he killed the unicorn? So how could he have managed to hang onto his wand? Unless it was at the house and no one noticed it there and Peter came to get it a few days later or something. Obviously since Peter was the one who had it in GoF he had to have the wand, but I don't think that he's the type to hang onto something like that for 14 years, especially considering he was pretending to be a rat.[/QUOTE]
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Old 05-18-2005, 02:17 PM   #35 (permalink)
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I agree Peter being the rat that he most likely stole Voldy's wand when he fell and fled the scene to got after Sirus. He hoped in using the Dark Lords wand, it he would have better portection as he is not A GREAT WIZARD. Infact he is weak both in character and in wizarding power.
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Old 08-11-2005, 09:45 PM   #36 (permalink)
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i think it was snape that got voldermorts wand because didnt vold. trust snape from all the other death eaters and maybe vold. told snape he was going to kill the potters snape hates the potters so snape was probably hanging around there for voldermort to come back and maybe when he didn't snape got voldermorts wand
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im not sure but this is my theory. i remember sirius mentioning that pettigrew gave lily and james potter away to voldermort. therefore it only fits that pettigrew mustve been there the night they were killed. james and lily couldnt possibly have let voldermort into their house anyway. Perhaps knowing it was pettigrew, they let him in, not knowing wat was in store for them ...


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Old 12-13-2005, 10:01 PM   #38 (permalink)
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This an interesting question. I tend to agree with the theory that Pettigrew got it and gave it to a DE that didn't get caught. Or maybe, said DE forced Peter to give it to him. Maybe JK will mention it in the last book.
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it says that wands are attached to the wizard...or sumthin like that
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Old 12-31-2005, 02:31 PM   #40 (permalink)
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Actually didn't he become a rat? Mice are so much cuter than rats. Big ugly rats can carry a wand in their mouth
That makes sense though - that when he went into spirit form, he somehow still had it.
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Old 12-31-2005, 04:28 PM   #41 (permalink)

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Uhm, definitly Peter, because Snape wasn't a death eater anymore. He *cough* had returned to the good side *cough*, so it would have been foolish if he would have been there.
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i areee too it has to of been peter but as u know the minstry knows that when you are overage and when you do magic the minstry knows and they know where you did it to so if they know that why cant the find voldormert when he does majic with his wand
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That's interesting, because I always invisaged him going to the potters alone...

Perhaps the Ministry just didn't realise the wand was there. I mean it had never happened before, so they had no idea what to expect or what had gone on.

Or maybe they picked up all 3 wands. Where are Lily and James' wands? Maybe they were taken and kept at the Ministry, and someone stole Voldemorts as a 'collectable' like one of the deatheaters *coughMalfoycough* and it was retrieved for him.

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u know.. i´ve been wondering about that question for a while and i think (same as siriusblack18) that Voldemort provably came with all the death eaters and pettigrew so when voldemort "disappears", pettigrew (as the RAT that he is) runs and Lucius or any other death eater manages to get the wand.. then he keeps it in the store of knockturn alley till voldemort comes back so he gives the wand back to his owner to show him respect and loyalty.. well that´s my theory.. but it could be wrong
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This is a really good topic! I've actually been wondering about this too.. I'm not sure this is important to the plot though, but it's definitely worth discussing!

I think that Voldemort somehow managed to keep his wand after he was "defeated" by baby Harry Potter. I dunno how, but I think that's exactly what he did. I mean, if someone evil turned up at the house after Voldemort, they'd have tried to kill Harry, don't you think so?
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I didn't think that he had lost it? But maybe he can store it magically or something.? It said he fled. Maybe he stored it?
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the only thing i could think of is is that one of his death eaters were there and took it because i a pretty sure that hagrid would have given it to dumbledoore and he would have destroyed it.
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i think that one of the death eaters got a sign or heard about it n went aroun to the potters place to get the wand
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Yeah, I always thought that Peter went to the house and retrieved the wand before anybody else arrived. Otherwise the wand would have probably been snapped in half, therefore becoming unusable.
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