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01-22-2006, 05:26 PM
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| | Bicorn
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| Learn German
Hi there!
Due to the fact that a few people have been expressing their desire to learn and / or improve their German, as well as some German-speaking users are already trying to help out, a teaching-thread seemed to be in order, and here it is: Rules - All SS-Board-Rules apply.
- This is a place to learn Basic German. - You may ask questions concerning the German language, such as spelling, pronunciation, grammar, daily speech, ... .
- Questions can be asked in English - But only answer, if you are a Native Speaker and / or are fluent in German grammar. - Absolutely no Chatting.  Und nu: Frohes Lernen!
I know that not all keyboards support all symbols of the German language, therefore use:
ä - ae
ö - oe
ü - ue
ß - ss
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01-23-2006, 04:03 PM
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| | Bicorn
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okei, Lesson number 1: Alphabet & Pronunciation A - ah B - bay C - tsay D - day E - ay F - ef G - gay H - hah I - ee J - yot K - kah L - el M - em N - en O - oh P - pay Q - koo R - ehr S - ess T - t U - oo V - fow W - vee X - eeks Y - ip-see-lohn Z - tset Special Sounds: German examples English Equivalent ä (long/short) - Käse/Känchen late / get au - aus now äu - Fräulein oil ch - ich e (long/short) - See/Geld ? / met ei - zwei mine eu - neu foil g (in -ig) - vierzig ie - Sie tree ö (long/short) - schön/möchte her / sch - Flasche ß(Eszett) - Straße ü (long/short) - für,fünf
Some Notes on pronunciation:
Vowels are short when two konsonants are following: Tasse, Hund
Vowels are long when followed by h:Zahn
when doubled: Zoo
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Main-info by Kunka
To listen to some sound examples on the web, go here
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02-07-2006, 05:47 PM
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| German Mod Centaur
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| Encyclopaedia Galactica Quote:
Originally Posted by ybbod I! Have a question . I'm trying to translate this song from Christina Stürmer . The name of the song is " KIND DES UNIVERSUMS " ....
Ich ein kind des universums
suck immer nach vollkommenheit
sehe dass die wahrheit so unerreichbar bleibt
im hallen glanz der sterne
find ich was ich ersehne
ein platz im universum meiner träume
My dictonary says that ein means one , dass is the same as der or das or die , immer...well...that's is a lost cause...
Can anyone help me with these ? Ein doesn't usually mean one, at least not the number one. Ein is the same as a/an, as in a car, an apple... (As opposed to the.)
It's an indefinite article in German.
The first line is easier to understand, by the way, if you add a comma or two: Ich, ein Kind des Universums, Ich is the subject, and ein Kind des Universums is an attributive phrase (an apposition, if you want to know  ) to that subject. It's sort of removed from the normal sentence structure, and if you mark it with commas, it's easier to spot. Immer has a few translations, but usually, it means 'always' or 'at all times'. 'Always' works very well in this case.
Lastly, dass is definitely not the same as der, das or die although the distinction is less clear in English. Dass begins an object clause while the other three are used in relative clauses.
For example:
Ich denke, dass du falsch liegst.
I think (that) you're wrong.
In German, object clauses are introduced with dass. It sort of corresponds to 'that' in English, but unlike 'that', in German the dass is obligatory and cannot be removed. The underlined words are the object clauses.
Relative clauses relate to the (pro)noun that they are modifying/describing. They pretty much works the same in both languages, I'd say, so they're a bit easier to understand.
Example:
Du bist der, der falsch liegt.
You are the one who is wrong.
The italicised words are the relative pronouns starting the relative clause. The underlined words are the nouns (in this case pronouns) that are being modified by the relative clause.
Does that help at all? I tend to go on and on about stuff, sorry. If you have more questions, please ask!
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02-09-2006, 04:40 PM
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| | Bicorn
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Originally Posted by Mrs Felton I have a question. How do you say spazierengehen. Do you say it like 'spatz'ierengehen or exactly how it's spelt?? it is one word, in its infinitiv-form spelled spazierengehen (spa - zie - ren - ge - hen)
but if you want to use it with a pronoun, you break it up and into gehen and spazieren, while only gehen is conjugated:
ich gehe spazieren
du gehst spazieren
er geht spazieren
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06-23-2006, 02:59 PM
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| | Hippogriff
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| Lesson #1 - Greetings Grim Lover
As you have already learned how pronounce German letters and we all want to get to know each other it's time to learn how to greet someone in German.
In German we make a distinction between people you know (everyone here in this forum is in this group) and people you don't know (but also teachers or adults). As we will only need the first group here this is all we're going to learn. Hallo / Hi
Hello / Hi Guten Morgen.
Good Morning. Guten Abend.
Good evening. Gute Nacht.
Good night. Auf Wiedersehen.
Good-bye. Wie geht es dir?
How are you? Bitte.
Please. Danke.
Thank you. Entschuldigung.
Sorry / Excuse me. Ich heiße ...
My name is ...
That's everything you'll learn in this lesson. If you've got any questions please feel free to post them here. |
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06-25-2006, 03:55 PM
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| | Hippogriff
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| Lesson #2 - Numbers Grim Lover
Next we want to learn how to count in German. You'll see that the principle is very easy - it works just like in English - and if you don't know how pronounce a number don't be afraid to ask.
1 - Eins
2 - Zwei
3 - Drei
4 - Vier
5 - Fünf
6 - Sechs
7 - Sieben
8 - Acht
9 - Neun
10 - Zehn
11 - Elf
12 - Zwölf
13 - Dreizehn
14 - Vierzehn
15 - Fünfzehn
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20 - Zwanzig
21 - Einundzwanzig
22 - Zweiundzwanzig
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30 - Dreißig
40 - Vierzig
50 - Fünfzig
60 - Sechzig
70 - Siebzig
80 - Achtzig
90 - Neunzig
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06-29-2006, 12:04 PM
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| | Hippogriff
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| Grim Lover Quote:
Originally Posted by Ewelina ich hab 'ne Frage!!
es gibt di Nomen:
die Gewalt
und
das Gewalt , ja?
also welche ist english "violence"?
Ich weiss , dass das 'ne dumme Frage ist, aber ich hab' noch Probleme damit
Danke
Ewelina Ich finde, das ist überhaupt keine dumme Frage ... beim Lernen gibt es nämlich keine dummen Fragen
Also, soweit ich weiß gibt es im Deutschen nur "die Gewalt", und die heißt auf Englisch "violence". Mein Wörterbuch sagt auch, dass es "das Gewalt" nicht gibt. Wo hast du denn das gelesen?
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07-10-2006, 04:35 PM
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| | Bicorn
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| Word Order The word order in German grammar is pretty variable, but a general constellation is as follows: Subject Verb (Object). e.g.: Er arbeitet (zu Hause). [He works at home] Verbs always hold the second position in a sentence. Compound Verbs: the conjugated part of the verb comes after the subject, but the second part of the verb appears at the end of the sentence: e.g. verb: ankommen Der alte Mann kommt heute an. [The old man will arrive today] In most cases, the words after the subject and (conjugated) verb are arranged in the following order: Time Manner Place But: Depending on what you want to emphasize, you can start the sentence with each of the three. Example Der Mann kommt heute mit dem Auto nach Hause. (most common) Heute kommt der Mann mit dem Autonach Hause. (emphasis on the time/day) Mit dem Auto kommt der Mann heute nach Hause. (emphasis on how) In a subordinate clause, the verb is always last: Das ist der Mann, der gestern ankam. (main sen.) (Komma!) sub. clause Mafia Leader, if you or anyone else has a specifi question on this, fire away. The problem with German word order is, that you can arrange the words in mynay cases in many ways, espeically when you have a long sentence. But rest asured that the English SVO works in German as well. |
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08-26-2006, 05:42 PM
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| | Bicorn
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Originally Posted by mathi Hallo, Guten Morgen, I have Eins Question? Is there any alphabeticals in German Language Itself. I mean like English one. And Give some more Spoken German for the daily life.
You guys Doing a Great Job  ! Learning another Language is Simply Interesting. Also I feel proud of it! Quote:
I have Eins Question?
here, you need eine, it depends a bit on the case, but generally Eins is only used in counting. I think I'll put up a lesson for that combined with some more speech examples.
Do you mean alphabetical quizzes? I'll see if I can find one on the web in German.
Thank you! 
You're right learning a new language has many advantages.
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09-02-2006, 05:42 PM
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| | Bicorn
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Originally Posted by mathi Oh, Okay squibby. so it was eine. And what's Entgelt bezahlt? I received one invitation from Germany. It was on the envelope.
BTW what's your name? and you're welcome*glomps back squibby* "Entgelt bezahlt" means that the postage fee for this letter has been paid for by the sender.
I'm Nessie.
the lesson will take a bit longer, but I'll have it ready by the end of next week. I just moved, have to settle in and catch up on my beta-work. I could defintiely do with a time-turner...
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09-20-2006, 05:08 PM
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| | Hippogriff
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| Grim Lover Quote:
Originally Posted by mathi Bonjour Nessie(Hehe..I'm learning lil bit of French)  ,
Danke for the clarification. Tell me some day to day phrases like:
who are You?
When did you come back?
Where have you been?
Which class are you?
Etc..  Hey Matt! I saw that there are still some unanswered questions so I might as well answer them, right? Wer bist du? Quote:
When did you come back?
Wann bist du zurückgekommen? Quote:
Where have you been?
Wo bist du gewesen? Quote:
Which class are you?
In welcher Klasse bist du?
If you have any more questions don't hesitate to post them!
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09-30-2006, 08:32 PM
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| | Bicorn
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Wenn ein person niest sagt man doch:
A:"Gesundheit!" (Bless you!)
B:"Danke!" (Thanks!)
A:"???" (You're welcome)
hehe, fast.
A:"Gesundheit"
B: "Danke"
und das war's. B bedankt sich für die Gesundheitswünsche und damit ist die Situation vorbei und man kehrt zu dem zurück, was man vorher gemacht hat.
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10-29-2006, 11:26 AM
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| | Bicorn
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Originally Posted by shelleyslater I'm hoping to go to Germany next summer and I'd love to be able to get through the holiday without being ignorant!!!!!!!!
Is it true that the German language is very similar to English?
I can say very silly things like; "Hasta vine Hunde?"
(Apologies for the terrible spelling) Yes, the two languaged have a lot in common. Old English developed from Low German and so forth, so if you pay close attention, you should be able to detect a few similarities.
I don't quite understand what that 'German' sentence is supposed to mean. sorry.
Thanks for your interest. Why not tell us more about your stay in the 'Plauderecke'?
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10-29-2006, 04:12 PM
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| | Bicorn
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| Thanks!  Germany you're fave country, that's cool! Yep, Ich liebe dich is right. You're welcome to ask any questions you have.
Nice to meet you - Schön / Nett, dich kennen zu lernen / Es freut mich, dich kennen zu lernen. Go away - Geh weg (the nicest, I think) Hau ab (a bit rude) / Verschwinde (not so nice, but less rude) / Sieh zu, dass du Land gewinnst (more of a threat)
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11-24-2006, 09:02 PM
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| | Bicorn
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Originally Posted by roonilwazlib Hi there. I'm Sean for those of you who don't know me and i'm in German 2 in high school. I had a question: Are conjunctions used in german, like don't or he'd? Hi!
We do have conjunctions, but those are usually: because (weil), but (aber), and (und), if (ob), ...
And yes, we also use this kind of shortened speech, e.g.
- 'es' (it) is often reduced to 's' as in Tu's nicht (Don't do it) or Wie geht's? = Wie geht es dir? (How are you)
- you (du) is often swallowed: Kommste her? = Kommst du her? (Will you come over) or Haste 'ne Minute = Hast du eine Minute [Zeit]? (Do you have a minute [to spare]
- eine / ein / einen ... are often reduced to 'n / 'ne / 'nen ...
Does this answer your question?
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12-05-2006, 01:50 PM
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| | Bicorn
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Originally Posted by shelleyslater Apologies for the notable delay in answering you question!!!!
Have you a Dog? - Hastu Vien Hunde............sorry, I know it's shockingly ignorant lol!!!
Well, I'm hoping to visit Berlin, Munich and Cologne, I've heard so many wonderful things about Germany so I'm very excited!!!
We have the Frankfurt Market here until the 23rd Dec and it's amazing, very traditional and very German, it's so very popular!!!!
Danke Frauline Squibby!!!! Have you a Dog? - Hastu Vien Hunde............ - I'd guess you're trying to say *Hast du einen Hund* or *Hastu nen Hund * BUT don't write the latter, it's spoken language. Quote:
Berlin, Munich and Cologne
klingt nach nem interessanten Trip / sounds like an interesstung trip Quote:
Danke Frauline Squibby!!!!
Noone uses 'Fräulein' anymore, it's out-dated. No matter if you're married or not, it's 'Frau'. And call me Nessie, if you like ;-)
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12-07-2006, 04:22 PM
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| | Bugbear
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Originally Posted by squibby Have you a Dog? - Hastu Vien Hunde............ - I'd guess you're trying to say *Hast du einen Hund* or *Hastu nen Hund * BUT don't write the latter, it's spoken language.
klingt nach nem interessanten Trip / sounds like an interesstung trip
Noone uses 'Fräulein' anymore, it's out-dated. No matter if you're married or not, it's 'Frau'. And call me Nessie, if you like ;-) Sorry.........I'm literally new to the language!!!!!!!
Nice to meet you Nessie!!!
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02-22-2007, 06:43 AM
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| | Bicorn
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Originally Posted by Jane Oh, I like this thread.
WARNING: All you german people are going to get alot of questions from me...
I'm going to TRY to write that (up there) in German, can someone please correct the errors?
Oh, ich liebe (does it always mean like "love" or can I use it in that sentence?) dieser..uhm...don't know the word.
ACHTUNG: Alle Deutsches Personen hier will viele Frage aus (or what word?) mich kriegen.
Oh, and now I remember why my German-grades are so low... WARNING: All you german people are going to get alot of questions from me...
I'm going to TRY to write that (up there) in German, can someone please correct the errors?
Oh, ich liebe diese n Thread.
ACHTUNG: Alle Deutsche n Personen hier w erden viele Frage n von mir bekommen/ kriegen. Quote:
liebe (does it always mean like "love" or can I use it in that sentence?)
liebe means love. But you would probably say 'mag' in a sentence like the one above. We don't often use the word 'love' to say we like something. It's considered a strong expression and reserved for your hubby etc :-)
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02-22-2007, 05:36 PM
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| | Hippogriff
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| Grim Lover Quote:
Originally Posted by emma_rlz Wow. Great thread. I@m coming back here for sure twice a week for my German homework which I always get.
I was wondering, becuase we have a little bit of a rubbish teacher who's never taught German, would anyone be able to tell me how you're supposed to say something like;
To school, I wear a white blouse. I don't like wearing blouses, I want to wear T-Shirts instead.
Our German teacher doesn't teach us it properly.
Danke,
Nicky. Hi Nicky! No problem here we go. Quote:
Originally Posted by emma_rlz To school, I wear a white blouse. In der Schule trage ich eine weiße Bluse. Quote:
I don't like wearing blouses, I want to wear T-Shirts instead.
Ich trage nicht gerne Blusen, ich möchte stattdessen T-Shirts tragen.
You're always welcome to come back and ask if you need help!
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03-15-2007, 10:10 AM
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| | Bicorn
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Originally Posted by Jane Okey, just a question: What is "the Bible" in German?
And another one: Is this correct: zu sein-ist-war-hat gewesen?
I hate German-tests....=/ Quote:
What is "the Bible" in German
Die Bibel.  Sometimes the differences aren't that big, but those are the most confusing, am I right? Quote:
zu sein-ist-war-hat gewesen?
I guess you mean the declination of the verb to be = zu sein? Yes, it's almsot correct:
zu sein - ist - war - ist gewesen
do you also need the future? = wird sein
Good luck with your test! - Viel Glück bei deinem Test!
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03-18-2007, 08:47 PM
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| | Faerie
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Originally Posted by MalfoyzBeloved just out of curiosity, how do you say "I do not understand" in German? (I'll need to know this in the future so I may as well learn now  ) Quote:
Originally Posted by MalfoyzBeloved I do not understand" in German? Ich verstehe nicht.
__________________ listen and you can hear the distant sounds
of someone humming a familiar song 
the sounds of raindrops echo across the horizon
and shoot your wish up to the sky
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05-11-2007, 10:32 AM
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| | Bicorn
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Originally Posted by Dan crazy How do you say, "he's trying to kill me before Jenna can."? Er wird mich umbringen bevor Jenna es schafft.
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07-24-2007, 04:43 PM
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| | Bicorn
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Originally Posted by GreenDayGirl9293 Hi!
So, I just took a year of German, and we started to learn euch and ihn and those kind of words, but i mostly forget them. Can you tell me what the german words are for them, us, and that kind of thing? I know the basic stuff like i, you, he, she, it, and we.
~Nicole
I tried to insert a nice image but it won't stay put - give me a minute :-) Quote:
Originally Posted by nikole this is a wonderful idea! um how do you say 'whats up?' or 'what have you been up to?' or something on that idea. It always depends on what you're aiming at:
What's up
- Was geht? / Was's los? (slang)
- Alles klar? / rather asking if someone's ok
- Wie geht's? / (more like "how are you")
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Originally Posted by phoenix_tears OMG !! this is Absolutley Awesome ... i used to live in germany but i'm not that good in german i'd love to learn the language *grins * ( i luv germany )
I've got a question about the numbers .. i remember that i learnt that the end of 20 ( Zwanzig ) we pronounce it like an sh sound is it right ??
tks , Well, it depends on where you are, some people in Germany say it with a "sh", but actually it is pronounced like the "g" in pig (sorry couldn't think of a better example..^^).
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| | Bicorn
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Originally Posted by Evangeline Hey ;P I have been learning German for some time ;P But I am afraid I don't know much... Ich liebe dich ;P - is it correct? ;P hehe, That's indeed correct! So who's your special friend? :-P
Anything else we can help you with?
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