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06-30-2006, 07:26 PM
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| McG's Pet Faerie
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Pippa Havishaw | Yea Neville is going to be a big deal in the 7th book he has to be. |
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07-16-2006, 02:33 AM
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| | Bundimun
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| Very interesting. I agree. I think that Neville has a bigger role to play yet. |
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07-16-2006, 05:36 AM
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| | Jarvey
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Fifth | yes yes yes neville will be very important in the 7th book and i think we will also find out alot about his past and his parents! |
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08-03-2006, 04:26 PM
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| | Jarvey
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Hogwarts RPG Name: unsorted | Movie: Chamber of Secrets, DADA lesson, piskies pick up Neville by the ears "Why does this always happen to me?"
Neville was the comic relief. Ron did some bufooning, but when Ron had serious work to do, then Neville was there to take up the slack.
As the story grew, Neville matured along with the Readers' taste in humour. We used to laugh AT Neville's misfortunes. Now we laugh WITH Luna's tactless honesty. |
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08-03-2006, 08:21 PM
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| | Chizpurfle
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Sixth | When I first heard that book six was going to be call Half Blood Prince, I thought Neville was going to be the main character. I predicted he was going to emerge as the heir to both Griffindor and Ravenclaw. I was wrong. Or was I. He is pure blood, he comes from an old family, his parents were in Griffindor and exhibited brave qualities. Let's wait and see. |
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08-24-2006, 12:19 AM
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| | Jarvey
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Dreama Fourth | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Heron Yes, definitely. I think Neville's going to play an important part in these next two books. And I think Neville's brave. I think that sometime's it's harder to resist shouting at people who tease you (Malfoy, etc.) than it is to take your anger out on them.
I also think that an Obliviate Charm has a lot to do with his...memory problems. Neville doesn't come off as dumb to me, not really. Just forgetful and a bit clumsy. Like me.
I think Neville's new wand and growing role, coupled with his desire to avenge his parents is going to make him a very important player indeed.  | It never occurred to me that neville might have been obliviated, but it would make sense.
I see that I need to reread the series. (for the 11th time) |
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08-25-2006, 01:49 PM
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Sylvannas Quickspeed Sixth | [quote=Cassirin][color=blueviolet]Neville Longbottom - weak link or dark horse?
Consider Neville's past - forgetful and cowardly. We often wonder HOW he got into Gryffindor in the first place. His forgetfulness, however, has led greater Potterite sleuths to the conclusion that he has been put under a powerful Obliviate spell, one that often damages a person's memory (GoF, Ch. 35).
well, what if Bellatrix put that spell on him, b/c he saw them torture his parents? |
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09-08-2006, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Cassirin
We often wonder HOW he got into Gryffindor in the first place. His forgetfulness, however, has led greater Potterite sleuths to the conclusion that he has been put under a powerful Obliviate spell, one that often damages a person's memory (GoF, Ch. 35). | Although I have often thought and have come to the conclusion that there is more to Neville Longbottom than meets the eye, I had not thought of the possibility of his typical forgetfulness and clumsiness being the result of a powerful Obliviate spell. There are however two individuals that have been hit with such a powerful spell. The first is Gilderoy Lockhart who was hit with this spell when he used Ron's broken wand which backfired the spell onto him (CoS, US, Ch. 16). He is now in St. Mungo's and can hardly remember his name, wanders off on his own, and has no idea why he keeps getting fan mail, but loves it and autograph photo's of himself none the less (OotP, US, Ch. 23). Based on this description, that doesn't sound like Neville, yes he is forgetful, but he knows his own name and for the most part, what he is about. The second individual is a witch. Bertha Jorkins was said to have been put under a powerful memory charm by Barty Crouch Sr. when she inadvertently discovered the truth about his son (http://www.hp-lexicon.org/wizards/bertha.html). According to Sirius and borne out by what others have said who knew her, Bertha wasn't very bright, but had an excellent memory, a lot of curiosity, and no savvy about when to keep her mouth shut (http://www.hp-lexicon.org/wizards/a-z/j.html), now this doesn't seem like the same person as described by Ludo Bagman "But she'll turn up. Poor old Bertha ...memory like a leaky cauldron and no sense of direction. Lost, you take my word for it. She'll wander back into the office sometime in October, thinking it's still July(GoF, US, Ch. 7)." By this second description of Bertha, however, that could fit the bill for Neville. Quote: |
Originally Posted by Cassirin We watch a boy who once trembled in fear at everything stand up to his friends (SS, Ch. 16), his biggest fear (PoA, Ch. 7), and finally a flock of adult DE and potentially Voldemort himself (OotP, starting in Ch. 33). At this rate, who know what the next two books will show us about Neville's courage. | I agree that Neville has grown tremendously with each passing school year, but because of that I question if an Obliviate spell was used on him. Can a spell such as that wear off? He is fully aware of the fact that his parents were tortured into insanity (OotP, US, Ch. 23)and what curse was used to do it (GoF, US Ch. 14), is that because he was told about it? Could his mind have been Obliviated because he actually saw his parents being tortured by the Death Eaters? But if that is the case, why bother, he wasn’t even two years old at the time, he wouldn’t remember it, or at least not in it’s entirety anyway. And if someone did decided to use a memory charm on Neville, why tell him the truth as to what happened to his parents, why not just tell him that they died in a car accident or something such as that, like Harry’s Uncle and Aunt told him?
I think that you have brought up some excellent points that are really going to make me sit down and think some more on this topic. It is most defiantly a possibility that I have not searched….yet  . Like most things involved with this series, it has opened up even more questions, that I am hoping (praying really) will be answered in the final book. I do agree with you, we should all expect to see great things out of Neville in the final book of this series. |
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09-19-2006, 02:27 AM
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| Shopaholic Doxy
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| Poor Neville, so underestimated. At first, I didn't like his character at all, I thought he was too weak and unworthy. Now, I see that he has come into his own like a flower that blossoms. Neville has learned so much and he has really learned to appreciate magic. I think he will be instrumental in the downfall of Lord Voldemort, he will find some way to help Harry. I really hope he is the one to kill Bellatrix....that would be justice for him. I also want for Gran to tell Neville that she is proud to have him as a grandson. |
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09-19-2006, 03:20 AM
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Whigalima (Lima) Whiggmeister Sixth Year | The fact that Neville is getting stronger and more confident each book makes me think that he is going to have a big role to play in the final book-or, ot least that is what I hope. I love Neville, and I don't like how people underestimate him; Lupin, McGonagall, Dumbledore(when he was alive of course) and the Trio are pretty well the only characters in the series that have faith in his abilities. |
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09-21-2006, 07:42 AM
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| | Bundimun
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Hogwarts RPG Name: unsorted None | I think anyone has his own weakness include Neville.. I don't think that Neville is weak and stupid (like what Snape has said), actually he is smart (in herbology..) and more brave than the other students except our heroes of course... |
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11-06-2006, 09:32 AM
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| | Gnome
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Hogwarts RPG Name: unsorted | yEAH i also thought of it .the sorting would never have put him in Gryfindor if he was such coward.and after that prophecy i really think he will play an important role in the last part .may be he will b the one who will die instead of harry. |
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12-01-2006, 02:52 AM
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| | Bundimun
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| i definatley have to agree that neville will play an important role in the future. he wasnt put into g. by mistake so voldemort better watch out!  |
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12-01-2006, 12:43 PM
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| | Chizpurfle
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| Based on the following information from JKR's FAQ section of her website I clearly think Neville will play a BIG role in the final book: Quote:
What is the significance of Neville being the other boy to whom the prophecy might have referred?
Finally, I am answering the poll question! I am sorry it has taken so long, but let me start by saying how glad I am that this was the question that received the most votes, because this was the one that I most wanted to answer. Some of you might not like what I am going to say – but I'll address that issue at the end of my response!
To recap: Neville was born on the 30th of July, the day before Harry, so he too was born 'as the seventh month dies'. His parents, who were both famous Aurors, had 'thrice defied' Voldemort, just as Lily and James had. Voldemort was therefore presented with the choice of two baby boys to whom the prophecy might apply. However, he did not entirely realise what the implications of attacking them might be, because he had not heard the entire prophecy. As Dumbledore says:
'He [the eavesdropper] only heard the beginning, the part foretelling the birth of a boy in July to parents who had thrice defied Voldemort. Consequently, he could not warn his master that to attack you would be to risk transferring power to you.'
In effect, the prophecy gave Voldemort the choice of two candidates for his possible nemesis. In choosing which boy to murder, he was also (without realising it) choosing which boy to anoint as the Chosen One – to give him tools no other wizard possessed – the scar and the ability it conferred, a magical window into Voldemort's mind.
So what would have happened if Voldemort had decided that the pure-blood, not the half-blood, was the bigger threat? What would have happened if he had attacked Neville instead? Harry wonders this during the course of 'Half-Blood Prince' and concludes, rightly, that the answer hinges on whether or not one of Neville's parents would have been able, or prepared, to die for their son in the way that Lily died for Harry. If they hadn't, Neville would have been killed outright. Had Frank or Alice thrown themselves in front of Neville, however, the killing curse would have rebounded just as it did in Harry's case, and Neville would have been the one who survived with the lightning scar. What would this have meant? Would a Neville bearing the lightning scar have been as successful at evading Voldemort as Harry has been? Would Neville have had the qualities that have enabled Harry to remain strong and sane throughout all of his many ordeals? Although Dumbledore does not say as much, he does not believe so: he believes Voldemort did indeed choose the boy most likely to be able to topple him, for Harry's survival has not depended wholly or even mainly upon his scar.
So where does this leave Neville, the boy who was so nearly King? Well, it does not give him either hidden powers or a mysterious destiny. He remains a 'normal' wizarding boy, albeit one with a past, in its way, as tragic as Harry's. As you saw in 'Order of the Phoenix,' however, Neville is not without his own latent strengths. It remains to be seen how he will feel if he ever finds out how close he came to being the Chosen One.
Some of you, who have been convinced that the prophecy marked Neville, in some mystical fashion, for a fate intertwined with Harry's, may find this answer rather dull. Yet I was making what I felt was a significant point about Harry and Voldemort, and about prophecies themselves, in showing Neville as the also-ran. If neither boy was 'pre-ordained' before Voldemort's attack to become his possible vanquisher, then the prophecy (like the one the witches make to Macbeth, if anyone has read the play of the same name) becomes the catalyst for a situation that would never have occurred if it had not been made. Harry is propelled into a terrifying position he might never have sought, while Neville remains the tantalising 'might-have-been'. Destiny is a name often given in retrospect to choices that had dramatic consequences. Of course, none of this should be taken to mean that Neville does not have a significant part to play in the last two novels, or the fight against Voldemort. As for the prophecy itself, it remains ambiguous, not only to readers, but to my characters. Prophecies (think of Nostradamus!) are usually open to many different interpretations. That is both their strength and their weakness.
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For Neville this is almost as personal as it his for Harry. Voldemort caused Neville to lose his family in a worse way then murder. They were driven crazy... they are still alive but their minds no longer are there. Neville grieves the loss of his parents and is effected by their state caused by Voldermort's Death Eaters. Neville will be out to help Harry because he wants revenge for what was done to his family. He wants to make it right and he want to win the war so that his parent's loss of their minds wasn't in vain. |
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03-11-2007, 01:37 PM
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| JKRFC Co-PresidentReached and Spanked 1000!The Snitch Plimpy
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Grace Oliver Diagon Alley | I think that Neville will play a very important role in book 7. In the beginning of the books, he did seem a bit out of place in Gryffindor. But even in philosopher's stone, he has shown a glimpse of what stuff he is made of by the way that he did stand upto Harry, Ron and Hermione. That does take courage.
He has lived in the shadows a lot of people throughout his life, especially being put down by his grandmother. I think he's come to realise that it doesn't matter what people think of him, but it comes down to knowing what you are capable of, and he's realised that he is capable of a lot more.
With the fight in the ministry and then again at Hogwarts, he has been at Harry's side throughout all of the battles. I don't know whether it is because he is angry about what happened to him parents and he doesn't want their insanity to be in vain. I like to think he's choosing to do what is right rather than what is easy.
I think that in the final book, he will be involved again. He will be present with Harry, Ron and Hermione through a battle and he will be there through loyalty to his friends. When Bella comes into it, it will be personal, but that will not be the reason that he got involved in the first place. Yes people get angry about bad things that have happened to their family, but I think that Neville sees the bigger picture and just wants to be on the good side, doing what is right. This will be how he walks out of the shadows that he's been living in for so long. |
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03-12-2007, 10:40 PM
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Benjamin Peter Cobblesten Accidents & Catastrophes | I think that Neville will have a big part in the final book. Although the prophecy has nothing to do with his life anymore, he still has had a life scarred by the Death Eaters, and he has proved in the last 2 books that he is helpful in combat and is extremely loyal. As stated, he will probably have some sort of last fight with Bella or something, but I doubt he will die. He might even find out that he could have been in Harry's position, but I don't think that will really matter in the plot one way or the other. |
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04-20-2007, 07:46 PM
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| | Bundimun
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Hogwarts RPG Name: unsorted | Awesome i never noticed that he uses his dads wand |
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04-20-2007, 07:48 PM
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| | Bundimun
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Hogwarts RPG Name: unsorted | why is nevvile so clumsy |
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04-20-2007, 07:49 PM
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| | Bundimun
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Hogwarts RPG Name: unsorted | clumsy nevvile why is nevvile so clumsy |
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