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The Deathly Hallows The final year of the Harry Potter series - will good triumph over evil?

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Old 08-10-2007, 08:45 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I completely think that Harry was right to have told Lupin to stay with Tonks and not accompany them on their journey. No, he probablly shouldn't have yelled the way he did at Lupin, because Lupin just wants whats best for Harry and wanted a chance to be able to help, But luckily they forgave eachother later in the book. But yes, Harry had all right to tell Lupid no.
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Old 08-16-2007, 05:55 PM   #27 (permalink)
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hhmmm.... I thought thaty that was horrible I mean I understand why Harry said that but why scream? If Lupin didn't fight neither did other people with kids there kids and them will die because of Voldy! I HATE that Lupin and Tonks die!!!!
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Old 08-19-2007, 03:16 AM   #28 (permalink)
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I thought Harry was right in telling Lupin to go back to Tonks. Harry knew what it was like to grow up without his parents, and he didn't want the same thing to happen to Lupin's baby. I do think that Harry overreacted, though.
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Old 02-26-2008, 07:42 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Im with Harry on this one.
"A parent should never leave their child unless they have to."

Its true. And tbh, this is the chapter that i cryed most on throughout the whole seven books.
I know not many people cryed at that bit but i suppose i must be strange.
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Old 02-28-2008, 04:47 PM   #30 (permalink)
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harry was completely right! if remus went with them he would've find out everything about the horcruxes, maybe we would've seen a hidden side of lupin. he could've become selfish and try to destroy the horcruxes himself and get killed (earlier than he was)
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Old 02-28-2008, 04:50 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I think Harry was definately right. Lupin shouldnt abandon Tonks even if he did want to help Harry.
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Old 02-28-2008, 05:05 PM   #32 (permalink)
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The more I think about Lupin in DH, and at Grimmauld Place in particular, the more I feel like it was pretty in character. When Lupin was saying he regretted marrying Tonks, it wasn't because he didn't love her; he felt guilty about making her into an outcast. Lupin is a reserved person who doesn't cut himself a lot of slack - to feel guilty about impusively rushing into a marriage and unintentionally hurting the woman he loves isn't unlike Lupin at all.

Another thing that bothered me was the way Lupin seemed so manic about looking for a spy in the Order, but it's pretty obvious why Lupin, of all people, would be so obsessed with finding the rat. The mania almost made him look guilty himself... like he had something to hide, which is why he was checking all the others. But I think a lot of Lupin's attitude had to do with his involvement in the Order. During the two wars, when Voldemort was using werewolves to maim and kill, and Remus was living with those who had been shunned by society, he was always going to have a heightened awareness of his position as a 'dark creature'. For someone who's failing is wanting to be liked, other people's opinions are going to matter highly to him. It's not surprising that after being viewed a certain way for such a long time, Lupin would begin to feel guilty - like he was fooling no one but himself.

I never understood why during the first war, James and Sirius suspected Moony, and not Wormtail, to be the rat. I think it all goes back to Lupin's guilt. The Marauders have their flaws, but prejudice is not one of them. I never really liked the idea that Lupin was suspected because of his condition. After reading DH now I can see - Lupin probably wasn't acting like an innocent man. He's so worried about succumbing to the Death Eaters like other 'dark creatures' that he begins to act like he's already made the choice. Doesn't really excuse his actions, but at least gives some idea of what was driving him.
I know what you mean, I thought since they arrived at the burrow in DH that Lupin was odd, but its obviously based on what happened in the first war and stress makes different people do different things and as an introverted character how are we supposed to know what he SHOULD be like on the inside, the side that he bottles up. But Harry was justified, in fact Harry gave quite a few lessons to people during the series: Lockhart, Scrimgeour, Ron, Lupin, Voldemort.
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Old 03-11-2008, 01:39 AM   #33 (permalink)
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I got really upset when I read that, because I can see where Harry's coming from, and he has a right to be like that, but he didn't need to like, yell at him!! He was just trying to help!! But on the other hand, Lupin should not have left Tonks in the first place, I mean come on, who leaves their pregnant wife and unborn child to a fate unknown? He should've stuck by Tonks, even if he was scared, but Harry should not've yelled at him.
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Old 03-17-2008, 03:21 AM   #34 (permalink)
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I think both were pretty spot on.

I think with Lupin, it was a case of loving someone too much, you can kind of feel like you are letting them down. You don't quite measure up and what ever the circumstances, you can feel that person is bett off without you. Not just a wizard thing. Also, Lupin knew the importance of Harry's mission. I think it's a pretty nice tribute to Harry's father and godfather to try to aid him as much as he could. It shows that this friendship was so much more than just friends at school.

As for Harry, he said what needed to be said. He knew how much the friendship between the Mauraders meant to Lupin, so if anything, that was going to send him back to the place he was meant to be.
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Old 05-22-2008, 12:22 PM   #35 (permalink)
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I couldn't believe that Lupin would even consider leaving Tonks to go with Harry. But then I remembered that there are a lot of brand new fathers out there that go through similar circumstances. He was scared and confused. Harry did the right thing by setting him straight. I was proud, even if he was a bit harsh. It needed to be done.
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Old 06-16-2008, 08:47 PM   #36 (permalink)
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I think you can understand where Harry is coming from and it does make sense in what he's saying and I think that's what Harr was trying to get across to Lupin, that he should be there for his family instead.
But I do think they loved each other and Harry valued Lupin as a father figure, and Lupin the same hence Harry being made Godfather to Teddy.
But the scene when Lupin comes back with Sirius, James and Lily was sad for me, it showed that he was a important person in Harry's life.
I think Lupin knew what Harry was doing eventually and understood!
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Old 06-23-2008, 10:02 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Harry was right in telling Remus off I mean he was actually considering leaving his son and wife... but, in the end it justified the mean (no pun intended)
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Old 06-30-2008, 10:34 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Harry knows what it is like to have no parents and he is looking out for Lupins unborn son. He should not have been so snappy about it but he is right.
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Old 07-01-2008, 12:58 PM   #39 (permalink)
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I think harry should have let lupin join him if he went with harry he would be pulling a lot of danger away from his kid and tonks ya know?
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