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11-20-2010, 02:38 AM
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ok i'm curious as to how many of y'all liked or disliked the short dance sequence of Harry and Hermione in the tent.
and in case you're confused as to which tent and which dance, a lil visual reference below from the behind the scenes clip:
and in case anyone was wondering what was that song they danced to, its called O'Children by Nick Cage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWeR2F7ETLU
love it? hate it? say your bit!
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Reason: added the soundtrack
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11-20-2010, 02:45 AM
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I didnt hate the idea, just how it was executed.
It just came across totally awkward and seemed as if they had deeper feelings for one another other than the brother/sister type of relationship. I swear i thought they were going to kiss at some point during that dance. Thank goodness she became sad at the end of it again to regain my trust that her heart belongs to Ron. I think Yates really struggled to get the right emotions during some of these scenes and it hurt the main moments i was looking for in the film.
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11-20-2010, 02:52 AM
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See I feel completely different from the above post. The look he gave her to some might seem like one of desire, but to me it honestly just looked like he loved and cared for her so much and was honestly just worried about her, genuinely trying to make her happy. I guess interpretation of that is subjective though. Personally this was one of my favorite scenes in the entire movie. It might sound crazy seeing as the films are centered around the trio but we really, don't get that much of an insight into the relationships that each member of the trio has with eachother. And because that line where Harry tells Ron he always thought of Hermione as a sister is absent, I kind of like to think of this as a replacement of that. For a brief moment they were allowed to just act silly, much like little kids, reminding us how early the Trio had to give up normal childhoods to fight evil. I guess I'm ranting a bit now  but overall I think it was a beautiful way to ease out the tension even if only for a second
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11-20-2010, 03:55 AM
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Besides the fact that Harry has no moves whatsoever, I liked the dance scene. I had seen it in one of the trailers and I was wondering what that part was supposed to be about.
To me, it was just Harry trying to make Hermione feel better and to take her mind off Ron's departure. I didn't see anything romantic in it at all. It was simply two friends trying to put a little happiness into their lives even if for only a small moment.
This film and the first part of the book focused on the relationship between the trio. I thought it was really well done.
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I agree completely with what #1_harry_potter_fan_22 and aussiegirl have said right above me. I quite liked this scene even though I am a Ron/Hermione fan and (maybe because of that) I didn't see anything particularly romantic about it. I saw only saw a concerned Harry who wanted to cheer his friend Hermione up, not because he was in love with her, but because, as a good friend, he genuinely cared about her and her happiness. It's not only in romantic relationships that a partner cares about the other person's well-being; true friendship is about that as well, just not in the romantic, lovey-dovey way. And this dance was definitely not lovey-dovey or romantic, at least not to me.
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11-20-2010, 04:12 AM
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I think that it was a great scene and that it defenitely sticks out in my mind as one of my favorites in the film. I loved the awkwardness and poor dancing because I think that is just how it was meant to be. To me if felt very real and I didn't get the feeling that there was anything romantic between the two of them (and certainly not that they were going to kiss!) The scene was a nice way to explore their relationship and to lighten up the feel of the movie.
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11-20-2010, 04:16 AM
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I didn't like it. I mean it was cute, yes, and the thought for Harry to try and cheer her up WAS nice... but:
1) Harry can't dance.
2) It made it seem like he wanted her (since she had to turn away first, not him)
3) It was... totally awkward and out of place and just...
4) WAY TOO LONG.
5) To me, it just seemed like both Harry and Hermione were pretending the other was someone else (Harry pretending Hermione was Ginny, and Hermione Ron) which just... makes the whole thing less genuine and like they're both using each other right at that moment.
I liked the gesture, since we don't get to hear Harry call Hermione his sister...
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11-20-2010, 04:21 AM
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I personally thought it was adorable, JUST THE WHOLE ATMOSTPHERE OF IT! I mean because it was adorable how Harry wanted to cheer Hermione up, I didn't see it as anymore than that, and I loved how at the beginnning Harry was trying to make her dance and it looked so awkward, it was adorable  I LOVED THAT IT WAS AWKWARD, it just made it that much more adorable
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11-20-2010, 04:56 AM
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I must say, I agree with most of the posters. I actually liked the scene. Because of the hype surrounding it, I made a point to really pay attention to this bit and in the end, I really am not so disappointed about it. Granted, following this scene, I DO wish the line of Harry saying Hermione was like his sister was kept, because I do think it could serve as a confusion to many others.
The thing is, and I think a lot of people who don't like the scene state they feel it makes it seem like there is something between Harry and Hermione, that it's not the sort of thing a sibling might do. And this is true - siblings probably wouldn't. But you have to realize that saying Hermione is LIKE his sister does not imply she is. But what that scene DID show is Harry's understanding and his inability to cheer her up with words. Whether or not they're imply Harry cannot dance, I'm not sure. Personally, I think he purposely played up the bad dancing, to cheer her up. (Note, Hermione didn't really smile until he'd done that.)
It was a very tender scene, and a sweet gesture of Harry's. The look people confuse for desire, I think, really conveys something entirely different: he is at a loss. He's not Ron. He can't just say something and make it better. He can't snap his fingers and make her happy. It doesn't work like that, and he knows that. His look to me is something more of concentration, of helplessness, and also a conveyance of love and care.
While Harry and Hermione DO have a rather sibling like relationship, you have to realize it doesn't simply stop at the barriers of relations. In their friendship, the three of them on a whole have been through far too much to simply be just siblings. They are all bonded with each other, in no way labels can identify. You cannot say that this scene was bad because it says Harry thinks of her as more than a sister because face it - he probably does. Hermione is just as much a part of Harry as she is Ron, and the same goes for the boys. As much as they are separate entities, they are also a single entity of each other.
In the end, I think it was sweet. A bit misinformed with the removal of Harry's She's like a sister to me line, but all the same, I think it served its purpose. Quote:
Originally Posted by Pigwidgeon Tooks 5) To me, it just seemed like both Harry and Hermione were pretending the other was someone else (Harry pretending Hermione was Ginny, and Hermione Ron) which just... makes the whole thing less genuine and like they're both using each other right at that moment. Perhaps this WAS the case, and I don't actually see this as a con. In the matter that they used it to pretend, don't we all do something like that? Take advantage of a moment, play on our fantasies?
Mind you, I don't actually feel it was that way - I think it was, for a moment, an escape, an attempt at cheering, which, in the end, was hardly long lasting. Hermione returned to her sadness - because as Harry knew, HE cannot make it better. (Mind you, I also felt Kloves was a bit of a Harry/Hermione shipper and this was his last attempt bahahaha!) |
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11-20-2010, 06:13 AM
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I know the focus of the dance was for Harry to cheer Hermione up, but it was too much. We know that Harry loves Hermione like a sister, and that Harry loves Ginny in a marital way. But this isn't the first time the movies have done this. We've seen intimate scenes between Harry and Hermione in Gof as well as Half-Blood Prince and I always felt that the movies were overdoing it. Of course we know as well as the Yates and Heyman that Hermione loves Ron, but the way the movies convey Harry and Hermione's different love is a little too murky.
If the music wasn't a slow dance, I probably wouldn't have a problem with this scene. Knowing that there was a kiss between Hermione and Harry (even though I had a strong inkling it was during the Locket scene with Ron) and seeing them dance like this, I was freaking out, thinking they were going to kiss (especially at the end of the dance where they just looked at each other).
I think Harry trying to explain himself after seeing his Locket doppelganger would have sufficed more than the dance. This is yet another scene where the movie fails to implement dialogue for explaining things.'
But I do understand the tenderness and the intentions of this scene. And I guess it sort of worked. But I feel a little more dialogue could have made this scene a-ok, as opposed to questionable.
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11-20-2010, 08:58 AM
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I don't know why but I really loved the scene...... It really shown How loyal Hermione is to Harry and it looks like He is just returning the favor to Hermione to cheer her up
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11-20-2010, 02:22 PM
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I didn't like it. I don't know about you,but I wouldn't try to comfort someone who had just lost their boyfriend by dancing with them. I know that he was just trying to comfort her. But I think he could have done it in a different way.
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11-20-2010, 03:22 PM
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I loved this scene, it was so natural and real. It didn't seem forced, like some of the other scenes. You could tell that Harry did just want to cheer her up, and make her smile. Hermione's like his sister, and she was really upset. What else would a concerned 'brother' or best friend do? Be silly and try to make their 'sister'/best friend laugh, and that's exactly what Harry did with the dancing. I didn't see any romance in the scene at all.
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11-20-2010, 03:33 PM
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I go with the majority.. I really liked the dance scene. I mean, it never even really occurred in my mind that something deep might have actually been going on until i read this thread. The only reason people even thought that, was because i think, they either strongly supported Harry/Hermione or Ron/Hermione pairings. But if it would be looked at from another point of view, it was just nothing more than a dance Harry gave to cheer Hermione up. And why not try other different ways other than dance with her? Well, won't 'Humor' answer that? The dance really gave the audience a good laugh even with all that dark events going on. Why also did Harry have to dance like that? --Harry dancing seriously wouldn't have cheered up Hermione one bit. The rest that i wanted to say, and might have already said, was mentioned by Hermione_loves_Ron..
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11-20-2010, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Pigwidgeon Took 5) To me, it just seemed like both Harry and Hermione were pretending the other was someone else (Harry pretending Hermione was Ginny, and Hermione Ron) which just... makes the whole thing less genuine and like they're both using each other right at that moment.
Great explanation, i definitely agree there.
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11-20-2010, 04:51 PM
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I thought it was nice. Just two friends in tough times trying to have fun. But as I watched I didn't like how they looked at each other. Too, too awkward. That part could have been great if that look had been taken out.
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I liked it! I thought there was a bit of humor to it and it showed how Harry really understood how upset Hermione was over Ron leaving, and wanted to make her feel better.
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11-20-2010, 05:54 PM
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i Liked it,
I don't know why i liked it but i just did!
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11-20-2010, 06:44 PM
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Aww. II liked it. I didn't think I would, when I first heard of it, because I usually hate deviations from the book, but Harry was just being an excellent friend trying to cheer Hermione up. You could tell that he felt terrible that she was so sad. It was sweet.
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JKR has said this before: "There are moments when [Harry and Hermione] touch, which are charged moments. One when she touches his hair as he sits on the hiltop reading about Dumbledore and Grindelwald, and [two] the moment when they walk out of the graveyard with their arms around each other. Now the fact is that Hermione shares moments with Harry that Ron will never be able to participate in. He walked out. She shared something very instense with Harry."
I think this is just another moment that could very well have happened in the books, but wasn't written.
I think it was a really adorable, yet awkward, scene. The awkwardness, however, wasn't that bad. I could tell that Harry really just wanted to cheer his sister up. The fact that they showed how much he cares for her without words, just shows that Harry has a strong ability to love, and he hates to see others suffer.
I also think, though, that the scene could have been slightly misleading to those who haven't read the books and don't know much about the relationships between the trio. If I had walked in with no knowledge of the relationship between Harry and Hermione, I could have sworn they were going to kiss while they were dancing. And, for one horrible second, I actually did think they were going to.
I did like how Harry did cheer Hermione up for the few minutes they were dancing, and then she became sad again. It shows that Harry can't truly make her happy by himself, which in itself should show that they have no romantic feelings for each other. They are just friends - close, close, close friends - trying to forget about the war going on around them for a moment. But the fact that they took out Harry's "She's like a sister to me" line, this scene will definately confuse some, which is too bad, because I'm guessing they won't look into it as much as we on this thread are.
As for those who are complaining of Harry's dancing, he was being goofy, trying to make her laugh. If you're friend/sibling is upset, are you going to try and make them laugh, or are you going to be all serious around them, which in turn might make it worse? I thought it was cute how Harry was dancing with her, trying to get her to join him.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that I really, really, really enjoyed this scene. It was a great addition, and I give props to the cast and crew for having it turn out so well.
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11-20-2010, 08:35 PM
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although i totally understand the concept behind it, the whole "sibling,non spoken kind of support" with which harry is trying to cheer hermione up, i think there was some distinctive tension. not necessarily sexual, but tension is tension. i think most people who haven't read the book are totally of the opinion that something could exist between the two if it wasn't for ron and ginny. an opinion totally wrong since it's not THAT kind of love which bonds the two. however, i think it wasn't an essential scene, yet NOT so bad so as to be left out. yeah,my opinion is kinda controversial i know |
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I've mentioned this before. the dance itself wasnt so bad and even though it was clearly a seemingly H/Hr moment, for me it was something that a R/Hr like me would hate. The book is done, so something like this shouldnt bother any R/Hr shipper. Anyways, the fact that Hermione walked away from Harry and that she's standing outside the tent looking sad the next morning is all that matters. Quote:
I could tell that Harry really just wanted to cheer his sister up. The fact that they showed how much he cares for her without words, just shows that Harry has a strong ability to love, and he hates to see others suffer.
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I liked how goofy Harry looked and the whole dance was funny BUT i would have to agree that they are overdoing it with the Harry/Hermione moments.......okay,okay we get it already Emma rocks, but maybe just maybe she should do that with Ron and maybe just maybe Ginny should actually appear to be Harry's love interest not just some random lust, like 'oh I love your bare back let me zip you up, btw I'm leaving to kill off Voldemort, see you around'.......I mean come on they had enough time to show that dance but not enough time to actually have Harry breaking up with Ginny because he cares too much for her? Or have him teeling Ron how deeply he cares for Hermione but as his sister????
Don't get me wrong I liked the scene, it was probably one of my favourites but I just guess that it messed the whole thing up........I too believed for a moment that they're gonna kiss and the way she turned away at the end and he kept looking at her it made it seem like he had unexpressed feelings for her.....
Anyway, I have gotten way too long winded over here, all in all I would have preferred it if they had given a little more time to H/G relationship than focusing once again on H/Hr......but that's just me
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Originally Posted by onar I liked how goofy Harry looked and the whole dance was funny BUT i would have to agree that they are overdoing it with the Harry/Hermione moments.......okay,okay we get it already Emma rocks, but maybe just maybe she should do that with Ron and maybe just maybe Ginny should actually appear to be Harry's love interest not just some random lust, like 'oh I love your bare back let me zip you up, btw I'm leaving to kill off Voldemort, see you around'.......I mean come on they had enough time to show that dance but not enough time to actually have Harry breaking up with Ginny because he cares too much for her? Or have him teeling Ron how deeply he cares for Hermione but as his sister????
Don't get me wrong I liked the scene, it was probably one of my favourites but I just guess that it messed the whole thing up........I too believed for a moment that they're gonna kiss and the way she turned away at the end and he kept looking at her it made it seem like he had unexpressed feelings for her.....
Anyway, I have gotten way too long winded over here, all in all I would have preferred it if they had given a little more time to H/G relationship than focusing once again on H/Hr......but that's just me  You said it perfectly!
I hated that H/G got ovirtually nothing and time was wasted on this stupid, pointless H/Hr scene!
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After talking with my friend last night, we came to a different conclusion about the look everyone thinks expressed desire or longing. I suppose in the moment, it's easy to THINK it looks like that. But when you think about it, it's perfectly logical that maybe Harry's look had NOTHING to do with longing or desire or even love.
His best friend has just walked out on them, his other best friend feels betrayed and hurt. He has to find the other horcruxes, has no idea where they are or where to start. And, in the midst of this silly dance, this failed attempt to cheer Hermione up, it seems to have really, REALLY dawned on him.
They are ADULTS. This silly childish antic was just that: a childish antic. They're adults and they've lost their childhood and nothing is innocent and precious anymore. Voldemort is taking over, he's the only hope, and people keep dying. Maybe that intense look had less to do with a Harry/Hermione moment than a realization that childhood is gone and nothing can change that. Times are now as dark as they get.
It seemed to us that, after the light of that moment, this awkward dance, failed dance, this seemed much more the look in his eyes than anything of romance.
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