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Old 11-19-2010, 07:02 AM   #1 (permalink)

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I guess im one of the early ones. Ok, um here goes.

Although im not a Potter fanatic like some others as i have not actually read the books. I have read up on the last two installments from the web with random quotes from the book. So with that said i have to say (im preparing to get flamed for this, lol) that if i had to give it a grade it would have to be about a C+ or B- but leaning more towards average.

My biggest issue is i dont think Yates got enough emotion out of Emma or Rupert this time out. Especially when dealing with their relationship and the turmoils that it causes. I think Emma gave more emotion in HBP after seeing the Lavender/Ron kissing scene. It just felt absent or almost non existent. The part of not only when Ron leaves but returns just didnt have the kind of impact that ive read from quoted material from the book so it felt very empty.

And furthering that problem to me is the dancing scene between Harry and Hermione in the tent. It didnt seem like a brother trying to cheer a sister up and came across more as flirtation and desire. I will say that the smokey scene with Harry and Hermione from the Horcrux was done beautifully and if Daniel and Emma dated in real life the chemistry looked solid and very believable. I can only hope the scene with Hermione and Ron is equally as convincing.

There were some great scenes despite my being letdown in the Ron/Hermione dept. The scenes involving Dobby were excellent and the lighter moments (although sometimes misplace in my opinion) with the trio were pretty funny. I got a real kick when early in the film when George sneaked up on Harry and Ginny kissing in the kitchen. Loved it! Also, Bellatrix and Lucius performed very well (forgive me forgetting their names at the moment). One thing that was interesting was i had initially read on here and elsewhere that at the wedding Hermione and Victor Krum were supposed to share a dance. Well, that scene didnt make the cut i guess which again was kind of disappointing to me.

All in all the film was ok, the action was good when it was there but felt a little forced too much and seemed to leave more out than it should have. I know they have limitations on how long the movie can be but even just a half hour more probably would of benefitted the film better. If there ever was a case for me to read the books this film would be the reason why. I just hope that Pt 2 rebounds and ends the film series nicely.
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All filmic analysis apart, I was just so blown away by the experience. A few key moments:

1) Some enterprising fans split our theater into sections and together we sung an (admittedly disjointed) version of The Mysterious Ticking Noise.
2) Asking, aloud, a specific question about the books and having everyone within earshot answer you.
3) The sound of the entire theater sobbing together as Dobby died in Harry's arms.
4) Shuffling out of the theater together, our lightning-bolt-scars smeared and our eyes still moist.

It's just that, the fact that so many people were so heavily affected by this story - there's no better word for it, it was magical.
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the dance sequence with Harry and Hermione-- what was the fuss all about with that huh? it was cute! i mean heck it sure wasnt Fred Astair and Ginger Roberts but i dont get the hoopla over it. it wasnt even unbearably awkward.

oh and the huge deal about Horcurx!Harry and Hermione kissing. because of the way it was done-- so monochromatic-- unless you were really looking for where their bodies ended and where smoke began you wouldnt even notice they were supposed to be disrobed.

seems to me that all the "controversies" were overly hyped up just so that there is something to criticize in an otherwise perfect Potter movie. couldnt we just celebrate the simple fact that for the firs time it didnt screw up majorly on anything?
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I just saw DH and I really loved it!

Firstly, I dunno what was the point of the dance scene. I knew it was coming and Steve Kloves had planned it.

The Seven Potter's was amazing!!

The Wedding was too quick, I was hoping for it to be a little bit longer.

The H/G kiss was alright, not as good as I thought but I think the Part 2 kiss will be better.

The camping part was awesome and so was the MOM.

The Horcrux scene was so good. The animation was brilliant and how it was done!

I thought Malfoy Manor was completely EPIC!! It was so good! Ron and Hermione were so cute through out that scene!

Dobby's death was so heart breaking! Everyone was crying in the cinema!

I wish they could of done Dumbledore's Tomb a lot better. It was not completely.

The ending was alright.

I really love the R/Hr in the movie a lot. I wish they had more H/G!
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Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm LOVE IT!

Seriously blew my mind!

Tale of the Three Brothers.....wow.....just wow, it better get Oscar attention!

Emma Watson's acting, SO so sosoooooo much better, I have loved her alll the way through, but she was the stand out this time! More Rita and Dolores would have been nice, but I was soooo happy with the was the MoM was handled!

Harry as Runcorn......priceless!


I loved the dance, the Horcrux and the fights.


Seriously I saw it twice in 24 hours, and I am still aching for more! I could have easily sat there for another 4 hours to have the books finished before my eyes......but I also dont want it to end!
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I LOVE IT!! I see DH part 1 on Wednesday and i love it!!! Ou Ron was so hot and cute but my favourite bookscene was Malfoy's manor but in the movie that was no good that book but i love that scene ♥

I don't like verry much Harry's and Hermione's dance part.....It's okay
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I loved this movie, those 2+ hours just flew by and I could have stayed and watch more.

The opening was great, I love how you saw parts from Harry, Hermione and Ron as they mentally prepare for leaving thing and people that they love behind, especially though Hermione and Ron, and on that note I wish we could have gotten a bit more closure between Harry and the Dursleys, though it wasn’t a necessary scene in the book it was just a good scene.

The whole 7 potters scene was amazing, and the escape scene was great to, really exciting and fun. The same with the time spent at the Burrows and the wedding. I can admit that I wish that they would have kept the Hermione/Victor dance in at the wedding because I really wanted to see that but I do hope that they will have that as a deleted scene on the DVD/Blu-ray later, it wasn’t really a necessary scene to keep in, other than maybe having Victor mention Lovegood wearing the ‘deathly hallows’ necklace and telling Harry about it.

The horrocrux scene with Harry and Hermione I really liked, it was so well done and it was sexy yet creepy at the same time. After seeing the part were Ron gets all the wrong ideas about Harry and Hermione (something that they all but especially Rupert did great portraying) I understood it even more. I also liked the kiss scene, it wasn’t really in the book but the way it was described in the book and the way they did it in the movie really matched anyway, I also don’t think that it would have been the same if the Horrocruxes hadn’t kissed.

I must say that I really liked how they did “the tale of the three brothers”- sequence, I thought it was very well done and it was easy to follow and understand + it was a good way to show that it was a story being told. Emma also did a great job telling the story to the images.

I loved the chase through the forest by the death eaters and snitchers, it was a fast paced scene and it did make you sit a bit on the edge, the eventual capture was great and the parts at the Malfoy manor was scary, Bella torturing Hermione etc. I must say that Emma’s screams while being tortured was pretty terrifying. And then of course Dobby’s death was extremely sad.

Like I said, I really loved this film, I loved the pace, it was enough to keep you into the movie at all time. The cast was great, Dan, Rupert and Emma really outdid themselves and were better than ever in their roles.
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Oh finally. i've been waiting for this thread. so! on to HP7!

The opening was great, i really felt Hermione's pain, having to do that to her parents.. I'm kinda disappointed that the Dudley-Harry scene from the book wasn't there though... *sigh. I've really been looking forward to that part.

The 7 transforming to Harry was Hilarious--from the moment they drank the potion to Fleur hugging Bill on the dragon,haha. i was laughing to hard...And the Fred/George scene was just.. tear streaking.. i love them both sooo much. and they don't deserve what's gonna happen. But the part were Harry and Ginny kiss while George sneaks up on them was sooo good to. I loved the way he greeted them.

The wedding, uh.. I don't really have so much to say about. A few changes, but I could live with.. Same also with the Kreacher scene, I was just surprised that it was cut to that short, and that Remus didn't appear. And the scenes at the ministry, i also enjoyed. haha. especially the humorous ones.

The Tale of the Three Brothers, I really enjoyed. Good to see some actual animation in the film, and the way the story was told was just... great.

And I'm skipping to the end--Dobby's death. Well, for us readers, the impact was really strong. Dobby was just great and was loyal to Harry til the end. For the ones who just watch HP, i don;t think it would affect them quite as much, since Dobby only ever appeared in the 2nd film.

So all in all, I must say I really loved the film, it was totally worth the wait. The adventure, action, humor and romance were all just really blended together. It was, for me, the film that stuck to the book the most. The improvement in the characters were also very noticeable, the three were GREAT, as are the others.. Can't wait for Part two!
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I loved this movie!!! I thought that it was absolutely incredible and I was really pleased with how much they included. I do realize that they left some things out and did slightly twist some stuff to make it work, but over all I thought it was fantastic! I loved how they had so much humor in it while also including the more emotional aspects as well.

My favorite scenes were when George walked in on Harry and Ginny kissing in the kitchen (George's face and everything was just priceless) and the scene where Harry is testing out the snatcher's wand that Ron gave to him. HYSTERICAL. I was laughing so hard I was crying.

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I’ve just been to watch Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows and it was EPIC! I love it, it’s amazing and so far, it’s my favorite Potter movie! My only regret is that I missed the first five minutes where Hermione erases her parents memories , but I’ll catch up on that some other time. It had the perfect amount of measured humor, and it’s very faithful to the book! The two scenes that brought tears to my eyes are when Harry reminiscences about Dumbledore, it was just so sad and when Dobby was killed. I love how he said that he was happy to be dead with Harry, it was so touching.

Other than that I really liked the Ginny/Harry kiss where they’re interrupted by George; it’s hilarious , Rhys Ifans is one fantastic Xeno Lovegood, the wedding was very well depicted, the Silver Doe scene was really good too and Bellatrix’s torturing of Hermione was very intense. I also liked the different emotions that Draco was going through, Tom did a very good job of showing them.

Unlike some of you guys, the Harry/Hermione dance made a lot of sense to me and I really enjoyed it. And the kiss, it was …, I don’t know how to describe it but it was very passionate! But I love the scene it was great!

Overall, the movie was fantastic! I enjoyed it a lot!

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Getting only three hours of sleep was SO worth seeing this fantastic movie at midnight. Absolutely amazing. And as the first HP movie I've seen in theaters, this was extra special, and it's definitely knocked OotP out of my fave HP movie spot. <3

Starting at the beginning, I was a bit disappointed that we didn't see the Dursleys' and Harry's final interaction with one another, especially when Dudley is finally showing gratitude to Harry for saving him from the dementors. But I feel they made up for not including that with seeing Hermione take away her parents' memories. I nearly teared up during that scene, and it really broke my heart to see all the pictures with her parents that Hermione disappeared from. Very beautiful and moving scene.

First Malfoy Manor scene was pretty much exactly as I imagined it from the book. I was pleasantly surprised when they kept Charity Burbage, as I'd scene a clip of this scene before the movie and she wasn't (seen) in it. So I was very thrilled they included her, and when she starts to plead with Snape to save her. Excellent acting there by both Alan Rickman and the lady who plays Miss Burbage. Also, Jason Isaacs was once again great as Lucius, and I winced with him when Voldemort broke the snake decoration at the end of his wand. I quite liked that decoration, especially when it was connected to the walking stick/cane/whatever one chooses to call it.

The Seven Potters scene and the chase that followed was excellent, as I expected. I so loved all the lines they included from the book, like Fred and George's, "Wow, we're identical!" And Fleur's, "Don't look at me, Bill, I'm 'ideous!" Dan's acting was fantastic.

As for the H/G kiss, I only like the scene thanks to George. He's so hilarious And the wedding was lovely, 'specially Fleur's dress. It was gorgeous! And I was so thrilled to see Muriel! I almost thought they might not include her, so I was very happy when she appeared.

I was also quite impressed with the dust!Dumbledore that the trio encounters in Grimmauld Place. Even though I knew it was coming, it still freaked me out! Sirius's bedroom wasn't quite how I imagined it, and I was a little disappointed we didn't get to see Lily's letter to Sirius or the torn picture of little Harry flying on his broomstick with James chasing after him, but it's something I can live with, especially if they then decide to include it in Snape's memories in Part 2.

Also, Dobby! I loved the change with him joining Kreacher in bringing Mundungus Fletcher to Grimmauld Place. Quite liked the actor for Mundungus too. Also, at the Ministry, Imelda Staunton was brilliant as Umbridge once again. And Ron's Splinching? A bit graphic but reasonably so, and the acting was great in that scene.

Skipping ahead a bit, I really liked the Harry and Ron argument scene. I'd seen it some of it beforehand, but it was still great seeing it within the context of the movie. The acting was brilliant and it was really quite heartbreaking. And the Harry/Hermione dance a few minutes afterward was lovely in my opinion. I'm a R/Hr shipper through and through, but I didn't get any sense of H/Hr in that scene. I only saw it as Harry trying to cheer Hermione up and let her know that the world hasn't ended (yet) just because Ron got angry and left. Very nice scene.

Godric's Hollow was an excellent scene too, and when they're looking at Lily and James's graves was a really sad, touching moment. My only complaint is that they didn't read the "The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death" line, which I love, and also didn't show Ariana and Kendra Dumbledore's graves. But the exclusion of these two did not take away from the entire Godric's Hollow scene at all. Also, Nagini was terrifying! O___O

The next scene I can think of that really stood out to me was definitely the Silver Doe and horcrux destruction scene. The doe was beautiful, I liked the way they kept Harry's rescuer's identity a secret for several seconds like in the book so that it's a bit surprising when it turns out to be Ron, and Riddle's lines are quoted almost if not completely word-for-word from the book, which I loved. All of the acting was, once again, incredible, especially Hermione's line of "you are nothing, nothing, nothing compared to him." Ron's expression was heartbreaking (there were many heartbreaking things in this movie ).

Another great scene had to be The Tale of the Three Brothers. I thoroughly enjoyed the animation and Hermione's narration through it all. Extremely well-done.

And then there are of course the Snatchers, and I think my friend, who was one of the people I saw it with, described them (particularly the leader) perfectly when she said, "I'm finding it hard to dislike this guy when he's so good-looking." (paraphrased, but that's essentially what she said). And I agree, whatever-his-name-was was incredibly attractive.

And then there's the Malfoy Manor scene which was just amazing (and perhaps a little shocking) in the way it was done. Of course it's very similar to the book, but Bellatrix torturing Hermione was way, way worse than I ever imagined it. I thought they'd just stick to her using the Cruciatus Curse like in the book, but... *shudder* That scene made me really, really hate Bellatrix, and so I applaud Helena Bonham-Carter's acting in that scene. She really brought out Bella's mad, sadistic side in that scene.

And the ending...oh my gosh, the ending. DOBBYYYY! *weeps* I knew I would cry during that scene, but when it actually happened, I was actually quite nearly sobbing. It was just so... so... *melts into a puddle of tears*

Bah, why must I wait until July for Part 2? And why must I write soooo much about all this? Gah, I'm so lame
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I absolutely loved this one.
My favourite scene appeared right at the beginning. It's the one where Hermione erases her parents' memories. The way it was done with her disappearing from the pictures really brought tears to my eyes.

A thing that stood out for me in this film is that they really took the time to explain some of the major plot points. For instance at the wedding, the scene with Elphias Doge and auntie Muriel was actually there! I liked that. Just so many major points from the book came across well in the movie. When the trio wanted to leave the Lovegood's home and Xeno screamed NO! That was really good and perhaps the best thing was the scene where Ron is tormented by the Locket. That was really brilliantly done (also a nice touch with the spiders).

A thing that I didn't like so much was that in the dramatic scene at Malfoy Manor there was actually a bit more too much humor there. The humor was great (Dobby saying he doesn't want to kill anyone, only badly injure them) but it shouldn't have been at that scary and tense moment. Hermione getting tortured really sent chills down my spine. That was done really, really well.

I also think they did a great job at making the nonbookreaderaudience get attached to the character of Dobby. He really had some great scenes. I got tears in my eyes when he died.

The Tales Of The Three Brothers scene was a nice little surprise. I thought they would just tell that story really shortly or just skip it anyway but I think it was literally like it was in the book.

So yeah, I liked it and it was brilliant and I can't wait to see it again.
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I just got back from seeing the film and have to say, I loved it so much! There were a few bits I didn't like and within my review it's going to sound like I hated the film but really, I didn't, I completely loved it and will be seeing it again very soon! And also, unless I say otherwise, I think the cuts they made were good choices overall and didn't affect my enjoyment, however, having read the book, there were things I wouldn't have minded seeing.
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I loved the opening, it was perfect and heartbreaking all at the same time. Hermione's scene with her parents made me well up with tears.
I didn't like how the Dursley's sort of just drove off without explaining, properly, why they were going, and they missed out the bit with Dudley saying "I don't think you're a waste of space" (is that right? haven't read it in a while!) which was a sort of touching moment in the book.
I liked how they changed the Malfoy Manor bit to have Piuss Thicknesse there with them, it helped to sort of explain that they had captured him. Bellatrix was perfect as usual in this scene. As was Draco.
I liked the Seven Potter's bit when they were changing into him, however I wasn't keen on the actual journey to the Burrow. It all seemed to go far too quickly and I hated that they went on the motorway and stuff, which they keep doing in the films, where Muggles would have seen them. That simply wouldn't have happened!
I wish they'd have spent more time at the Burrow planning and whatnot. Hermione should have had the books about Horcruxes to know about how to destroy them and stuff. Also, I'd have liked Hagrid to give Harry the moleskin pouch, but oh well, that's not very important!
Also, why wasn't he disguised at the Wedding? That annoyed me.
I also wish they'd have done more about Hedwig and Mad-Eye's deaths. It was kind of like "oh they've died...oh well, we'll get over it" which wasn't right. They should have been mourned almost as Dobby was, but more on that later
Tottenham Court Road was changed to Shaftsbury Avenue which annoyed me but again, that's not very important, at least it was Central London!
I was confused about Dobby being in Grimmauld Place, although I love him, I wasn't keen on that. I also wish they'd have made more of Kreacher about Harry being his master etc.
(Oh my days, this review is going to be long...give yourself a bit of a breather and make yourself a cup of tea!)
The entrance to Grimmauld Place wasn't scary enough and more should have been made out of the fact the house had been searched. I'd also have liked to see Lily's letter in there, but oh well!
I loved most of the MOM scene however, the voice-overs didn't seem to entirely fit correctly which is an editing issue that distracted me a bit. I loved the decoy detonators! Exactly how I imagined them
He also didn't take Moody's eye from the door which I was slightly disappointed at.
From then on, up to the Godric's Hollow bit I loved. Godric's Hollow was great, apart from, they should have used the invisibility cloak, which wasn't used at all throughout the film. Bathilda wasn't quite as scary as in the book, but it was still very well done. I found myself starting to weep a little when we saw Harry's parents' graves. That was a touching moment. I kind of wish they had kept the statue in, but that wasn't important.
The Silver Doe scene was brilliant. Very gripping and exciting! No complaints at all for this, was pretty much exactly how I imagined it to be. The "Harry/Hermione" coming out of the locket bit was great too, more graphic than I expected, nakedness and very passionate kissing. I thought it worked very well as I was expecting it to be toned down for the film and it wasn't at all.
Kind of wish they'd done more with Xenophilius Lovegood and had more of a fight there, however I did like what they did do. I wish we could have seen Luna's bedroom but beggars can't be choosers!
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Just like the Potter movies before, this is not a carbon copy of the book. Some things were left out (Harry disguised at the wedding, Ron disturbing the H/G kiss, Ron showing Harry the ghoul, etc) but somehow, it was complete. The essentials were there. I watched it with non-HP fans, and they were able to understand the story (Thank God!) and didnt have to ask a ton of questions.

The part where Hermione erased her parent's memory was very touching. It was better than I had pictured it in my head while reading the book. Ron standing guard outside their house was good and Im grateful that they included the Dursleys in the film.

The MoM infiltration was a bit of a comedy. The actors who played the trio did a nice job. They really showed how 'lost' they were all throughout. And Ron receiving that kiss from his wife and his lines after was EPIC.

The leader of the snatches getting a sniff of Hermione's perfume was tense.

I love me some R/Hr scenes of course!

The argument between Harry and Ron in the tent was wonderful. Kudos to the trio's acting on that part, and Hermione facial expression before going after Ron was priceless!

The H/Hr dance wasnt so bad. Normally, I would hate any hints of H/Hr in any movies but this one didnt made me feel that way at all.

Malfoy Manor

I was expecting some hardcore Cruciatus spells from Bellatrix, but writing Mudblood on Hermione's skin was just as good. But Pettigrew should have died.
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They have announced to us time and time again that the book was split into two movies so they could keep to the book more, cut less ... and Yates himself claimed he did not take out anything of significance (in a recent interview)...yet I find myself pondering...Did he ever actually READ any of them, or just the scripts and feel that was enough to build upon on his own?

Since the 6th movie, I've actually grown to dislike Yates' dissection of the books and additions which make no sense at all. He believes he is improving on perfection, when he really has no clue how much he destroyed it. Much like how he added the Bellatrix scene at the Weaselys and completely changed Dumbledore's Characteristics and personality in how he treated Harry in the 6th movie (Dumbledore NEVER would have told Harry or asked Harry to join the Slug Club..NEVER), he did the same with Harry and Hermione's dance AND in Godrics Hollow where they should have been under the invisibility cloak in the 7th. You could tell he was trying to give some ease in the tension they were feeling, doing something to kill time during their long days w/o Ron..but I would MUCH rather them to have included something real and poignant from the actual book, like say..oooo, I dunno... SHOWING THE DURSLEYS dealing with the MOM people and showing DUDLEY say Harry wasn't a waste of space? Or how about something I was really looking so very much forward to seeing...the sign at Harry's old house at Godric's Hollow, Luna's Room with the picture of her friends with a chain of gold going around them saying just that, The Crumplehorned Snorkack that originally was to have blown up Luna's house.. and doing the Wedding PROPERLY where Harry isn't Harry, but polyjuiced up as Barney Weasley. Those chapters in the book were so loaded with good information, and the movie just whisks them away. Sad. Very Sad It seems every movie from Goblet of Fire on, has left out the key most things I was looking forward to seeing portrayed. What's next? Someone going to tell me they leave out Mrs. Weaselys infamous line in Part 2? They BETTER NOT! lol

Few things that really bothered me :

- Not really seeing Dudly. That could have been anyone, and probably wasn't the original character.
-Not seeing Mondungus Fletcher flying WITH Mad Eye
- Not enough of Tonks or Remus. Sure hope they get more coverage in part 2. She didn't even get to tell Harry she was preggers. Hope they still make Harry Godfather.
-Not enough time spend in the OOTP house. They never showed Kreature growing closer to Harry and the others by being given the fake locket. They don't show Hermione explaining how treating house elves properly is so important. I felt those were an important and significant part of the book and something that would come into play in part 2. You barely see him tell a little bit about Mundungus snatching up the locket, then poof..he's gone in a flash.
-Moody's eye not being taken out of Umbridge's door
Girl in the cafe not hearing the fighting with earphones in, but she seemed to have no trouble hearing them order Cappucinos, or hearing Hermione tell her to leave, all with earphones in.
-Harry suddenly knowing to open the locket with parsel tongue with no rhyme or reason, as though he'd known it all along..yet earlier they struggled aiming curses blindly at it and never once trying to open it. No explanation why Harry suddenly knows to say ,"you'll need me to open it first".
-No Cloak
-How the dungeon of Malfoy Manor scene was played out. Noone bound up. Peter Pettegrew not choking himself with his own hand..the trust gained from them being rescued, and not really knowing that Hermione and the Gringotts guy were questioned about the sword being fake and Harry asking him to lie about it. You have no idea why the goblin is called up unless you'd read the book.
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All disgust and disappointment aside now (which is not an easy thing to do) :

The Wedding was so well done, just not enough of it. They spent all that time putting so much time, energy, thought and money into making is so great looking. Why not spend more time actually filming the scene properly?

7 Harry's , of course. That was awesome! Even though they changed a few aspects, it didn't totally destroy it.

I did really enjoy seeing the Decoy Detonators. That cracked me up so much! Disappointed the trio changed back to themselves so fast, and that Harry did not steal Mad Eye's Eye..but, though it could have been touching, probably not totally necessary.
Also disappointed no Birthday for Harry or Gold Pocketwatch, but again, not necessary.

The inside of MOM looked great. The special effects of how they got in and out, how things were portrayed inside.. all outstanding. It could have been expanded on, showing more from the book, but it was just barely "enough".

The bits of humor..just at right moments. Could have used a little more, but happy for what was there and that they were well done humor and not the type of jokes you say 'boo' to.

The Costumes designer for the Wedding did a terrific job. Everyone's outfits were amazing, and the way they did the reception (what very little tiny bit of we did get) was very well done.

The acting has improved for the most part. Still a few weaker scenes,but overall, so believable.

Finding the sword - one of the best scenes in the movie along with the animated version of the Deathly Hallows. Very well done, and I was shivering for them, they looked so cold. I can hardly imagine what they had to go thru to film that scene in the cold!

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I am guessing, that once I can put the two films side by side and play them in order together, that I will enjoy and appreciate the first half more. For now, mostly I'm left feeling undone or unfinished. It almost feels like I left the movie early and never got to see the ending. Not that I didn't expect that. Not saying it's a negative. I'm greatful they split it in two so we could have more of the book shown. 2 and half hours flew by.
I am looking forward to seeing the last part in July then buying the two together. Nope.. I will NOT be buying the first half alone. I will be buying them both though, when I can get the complete as a set.

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The Harry/Hermione kiss was SURREAL. It must've taken guts to do that. It looked so weird, it even creeped ME out. The Ministry part kind of disappointed me, but just because they didn't plan much on it, when in the book they took about 5 whole chapters planing it all out.
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Well he kind of talks a bit about the locket and who has it, but I don't feel like the scene was quite as in depth as it was in the book. If I am remembering correctly in the book he explains how Regulus asked him to destroy it and everything, and goes in to quite some detail, but in the movie he doesn't. I guess he does enough to contribute to the plot.
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Well he kind of talks a bit about the locket and who has it, but I don't feel like the scene was quite as in depth as it was in the book. If I am remembering correctly in the book he explains how Regulus asked him to destroy it and everything, and goes in to quite some detail, but in the movie he doesn't. I guess he does enough to contribute to the plot.
Correct. This was where he (Kreacher) told of being forced to drink the liquid in the stone basin, and being ordered back home by his master, and how Voldemort never took the time to understand elfen magic and laws, and how wizards would one day be sorry for how they treated house elves. It was there that Harry started treating Kreacher with more dignity, and asking instead of ordering, and where Kreacher started to put his loyalties in Harry and the trio. This was a very poignant and movie in depth part of the book with much meaning, all left out. I think they missed their mark leaving this out, and a great chance at some more humor.

I suppose it would have made choosing where to end the movie for the first half harder if they included that. I could see where depicting that would have taken up quite a bit of time. That's the problem when you get such a superb writer. Hard to say anything is worth cutting out. Everything matters. JKR did such a superb job making every little story and bits n bobs mean something later, if not right away.

The more I think about it, the more I'm glad I'm not the one who had to decide what to leave out and what to keep in. I would have wanted to keep in EVERYTHING! .lol
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They have announced to us time and time again that the book was split into two movies so they could keep to the book more, cut less ... and Yates himself claimed he did not take out anything of significance (in a recent interview)...yet I find myself pondering...Did he ever actually READ any of them, or just the scripts and feel that was enough to build upon on his own?
Considering many of the lines in this movie were literally word-for-word from the book, and considering most of the scenes in the movie were lifted directly from the book, I'd say he has, indeed, read them.

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Much like how he added the Bellatrix scene at the Weaselys and completely changed Dumbledore's Characteristics and personality in how he treated Harry in the 6th movie (Dumbledore NEVER would have told Harry or asked Harry to join the Slug Club..NEVER)
I completely agree with the Death-Eaters-Burning-the-Burrow scene. Utterly pointless, imo. But how exactly did he change any of Dumbledore's personality in HBP, and why would Dumbledore "NEVER" ask Harry to join the Slug Club? No, he didn't do it in the book, but he did say, after viewing the tampered memory, "And so, for the first time, I am giving you homework, Harry. It will be your job to persuade Professor Slughorn to divulge the real memory, which will undoubtedly be our most crucial piece of information of all." (pg 372, Chapter Seventeen: "A Sluggish Memory," Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, US edition)

Dumbledore always thinks ahead. He's intuitive, and he knows what buttons to push, what he needs to do or say, to get what he wants. And here, he wants to know what Tom Riddle actually asked Slughorn that day, and Dumbledore knows the person most likely to coax it out of him would be the famous Boy Who Lived, the son of one of Slughorn's favorite students. So I don't see why it would be out of character for Dumbledore to tell Harry, when Harry brings the question up, that he would like for Harry to let Slughorn recruit him. Just because Dumbledore didn't exactly say it in the book doesn't mean it's out of character for him.

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he did the same with Harry and Hermione's dance AND in Godrics Hollow where they should have been under the invisibility cloak in the 7th.
Actually, in the book, they ended up not using the invisibility cloak as they travled through Godric's Hollow because there was snow on the ground and it certainly would have looked strange if two pairs of footsteps were appearing out of nowhere, and it wasn't worth staying under and trying to erase them. They were disguised as a Muggle couple, using Polyjuice Potion. It wasn't until after they visited the graveyard and Hermione noticed someone watching them from the bushes that they put the cloak back on. But "Bathilda" knew who they were, anyway.

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It seems every movie from Goblet of Fire on, has left out the key most things I was looking forward to seeing portrayed.
I think that has more to do with the fact that GoF and every book after has at least +600 pages. It's a lot more difficult to fit a 600 page book into a 2 1/2 hours than a 300/400 page book like PS/SS, CoS, and PoA.

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- Not really seeing Dudly. That could have been anyone, and probably wasn't the original character.
According to this article, Harry Melling was indeed back to play Dudley.

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-Not seeing Mondungus Fletcher flying WITH Mad Eye
Technically, we didn't see it in the book either. We were just told by Bill after it happened, once everyone was at the Burrow, that Mundungus fled when he saw Voldemort and Mad-Eye was killed.

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- Not enough of Tonks or Remus. Sure hope they get more coverage in part 2. She didn't even get to tell Harry she was preggers. Hope they still make Harry Godfather.
Certainly agree with this. I am glad, though, that they at least let us know Tonks and Lupin got married - that's a start. And even though she got cut off, it wouldn't be hard for someone who hasn't read the books to connect the dots on what a newly married couple would consider such good news. It also wouldn't be too hard for the trio to find out about the baby while they stay at Shell Cottage. Doesn't Lupin come there anyway to announce the baby's birth? Let's hope we get it then.

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-Not enough time spend in the OOTP house. They never showed Kreature growing closer to Harry and the others by being given the fake locket. They don't show Hermione explaining how treating house elves properly is so important. I felt those were an important and significant part of the book and something that would come into play in part 2. You barely see him tell a little bit about Mundungus snatching up the locket, then poof..he's gone in a flash.
I can see how Hermione's concern with the well-being of house elves would be fairly significant in part 2 (she kisses Ron when he wants to get all the house elves out of Hogwarts), but how would Kreacher getting to keep the fake locket and his new friendly relationship with Harry be all that significant in the second half? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't remember Kreacher appearing in any significant places like Shell Cottage, Gringotts, or the Battle of Hogwarts.

But I do agree, it would've been nice to have seen it in the movie. I grew rather fond of Kreacher during that part of the book.

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-Moody's eye not being taken out of Umbridge's door
I could have sworn it was, because when Harry as Runcorn slowly walks out and away from Umbridge's door, the eye isn't there in the door.

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Girl in the cafe not hearing the fighting with earphones in, but she seemed to have no trouble hearing them order Cappucinos, or hearing Hermione tell her to leave, all with earphones in.
She probably didn't have music actually playing through her eaerphones when she took the trio's orders, whereas when the fight happened, she did. Can't really blame her for wanting to listen to some music while fixing up the cappuccinos.

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-Harry suddenly knowing to open the locket with parsel tongue with no rhyme or reason, as though he'd known it all along..yet earlier they struggled aiming curses blindly at it and never once trying to open it. No explanation why Harry suddenly knows to say ,"you'll need me to open it first".
That's exactly how it played out in the book. Harry just suddenly knew he had to speak Parseltongue to get the locket to open - we only know his sudden train of thought for it because its in the book narration. As we do not have any narrators in movies (for in a movie it's even more important to show not tell), it only appears to be sudden knowledge "with no rhyme or reason." And yet even then, it really isn't, if one has watched the other movies, where it's shown that Voldemort knows Parseltongue, and one sees that the locket has a serpent-like S on it (quite like Slytherin house, whose mascot is a snake), and the fact that Voldemort has a pet snake who attacked Harry and Hermione not long before, it's not really something that comes out of nowhere. I'll even quote the book if you don't believe me about Harry suddenly knowing it:

"How are you going to open it?" asked Ron. He looked terrified.

"I'm going to ask it to open, using Parseltongue," said Harry. The answer came so readily to his lips that he thought that he had always known it deep down: Perhaps it had taken his recent encounter with Nagini to make him realize it. He looked at the serpentine S, inlaid with glittering green stones: It was easy to visualize it as a minuscule snake, curled upon the cold rock.
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-How the dungeon of Malfoy Manor scene was played out. Noone bound up. Peter Pettegrew not choking himself with his own hand..the trust gained from them being rescued, and not really knowing that Hermione and the Gringotts guy were questioned about the sword being fake and Harry asking him to lie about it. You have no idea why the goblin is called up unless you'd read the book.
I can agree with most of what you say here, but I still love the entire Malfoy Manor scene. I'm right there with you on being disappointed about Pettigrew not dying, but I'm hoping they'll have that in the second part. It just wouldn't be right if any of the Marauders survived past the battle.

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The Wedding was so well done, just not enough of it. They spent all that time putting so much time, energy, thought and money into making is so great looking. Why not spend more time actually filming the scene properly?
But if it looks horrible, it can't really be properly filmed, can it?

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The movie was epic ! I liked it so much
just wished there was more about Snape and Dumbeldore's past .
I hated the Harry and Hermione kiss even though it was in Ron's Imaginaion though I liked thier dance , t'was funny !


the best scene for me was Dobby's death , very heart-breaking :|
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It was SO amazing. Definately the best of the seven movies done.

Mundungus = PERFECT. It was exactly how I pictured him in the books. Very Delboy-esque. My cousin sat there like "WTFFF, that's not what he's meant to look like!" Haha. So I dunno. Maybe Mundungus is a marmite character. xD

The Tale of the Three Brothers. That was FREAKING PERFECT. I honestly wasn't expecting it, but it was just amazingly brilliant. I sat there in awe, looking at the cinema screen. How they did so well with it, I don't know, but I raise my hat to them. It was, in the words of Ron Weasley, bloody brilliant.

The horcux scared the crap out of me. I was not expecting that huge dust cloud thing to dive out of the locket. I never imagined it like that, but it looked brilliant. XD
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The best movie i have ever seen,Its Fantastic!!!!!!!! Excellent!!!!!!breathtakingly beautiful!!!! I loved it.... Rupert was fabulous Emma Rocked Dan was for me stand out performer. Yates plz add some Harry/Ginny stuff for goodness sake. He is supposed to marry her and has not even spend a time alone talking for few scenes. He fell for her because of her openest and how she made him forget abt everything which goes around, making him forget that he is the boy who lived.
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