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| | Deathly Hallows (2010 & 2011) For more information on both parts I and II of the final Harry Potter film, check this forum out! |
04-04-2011, 12:41 PM
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| | Horklump
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Torrence Black Fifth Year | DH2 Film Difference Details!
Boohissboo, No Carrows scene!
All this info is from the HP wikia!
# A scene is added when Ron and Hermione enter the Chamber of Secrets to acquire a Basilisk Fang to destroy Helga Hufflepuff's Cup.
# Harry and Voldemort have their final duel at the Entrance Courtyard instead of the Great Hall.
# After Lily and James were killed in 1981, Snape came to house to see them dead even collasping when seeing Lily dead, he cradles her in his arms then sees Harry sitting in his crib watching on.
# On top of the Astromony Tower, Harry grabs Voldemort and throws them both off it, they nearly reach the bottom when Voldemort apparates them both away.
# When arriving at Hogwarts, Harry burst into the Great Hall furious at Snape for standing in Dumbledore's place, even demanding that Snape tell everyone how he killed Dumbledore.
# Professor McGonagall duels Snape in the Great Hall in front of the entire school before he turns to black "smoke" and smashing through a window.
# The opening scene is of Hogwarts with Snape making the students march through the Courtyard.
# When Harry defeats Voldemort in the duel, when the Killing Curse hits Voldemort he slowly decays into the air, thus completely disappearing from existance.
# Neville kills Nagini, just before Nagini pounces on Ron and Hermione just after he defines Voldemort.
# Hagrid does not place Harry's dead "corpse" on the ground, he instead leaps out of Hagrid's arms ready to fight, while Narcissa Malfoy was looking for signs of life but finding none until Harry leaps out of Hagrid's arms.
# Instead of Harry being naked when arriving at "King's Cross" he his instead fully clothed, he also sees Voldemort in the image of a red, slimy breathing thing
# Harry through his connection to Voldemort he sees a memory of the Grey Lady at Hogwarts, giving Harry that Ravenclaw is connected to Voldemort Horcrux.
# Harry goes to Ravenclaw Tower alone and does not encounter the Carrow's in the common room. Amycus does not spit in McGonagall's face.
# When Voldemort finds out that Harry stolen a Horcrux from Bellatrix's vault in Gringotts he kills several goblins, including Griphook. Voldemort also then turns to his Death Eaters killing several of them then torturing the Malfoy's.
# Ron and Hermione kiss takes place in the Chamber of Secrets after they destory Hegla Hufflepup's Cup.
# When Griphook is killed by Voldemort, the Sword of Gryffindor disappears from his hands.
# The final battle between Harry and Voldemort is extended as Voldemort chases Harry through many different places in Hogwarts.
# Bellatrix "desintigrates" after Molly Weasley kills her.
# Remus, Tonks and Fred's deaths are not seen in the film, but are seen when the hour ceasfire is called Rn notices Fred then collaspes onto Fred crying.
# Part two goes for two hours without the end credits.
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04-04-2011, 01:16 PM
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| | Skrewt
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2 hours only???? why so short... i would be glad to watch for 5 hours, if David Yates and Heyman wants to know. LOL!
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04-05-2011, 08:52 AM
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# After Lily and James were killed in 1981, Snape came to house to see them dead even collasping when seeing Lily dead, he cradles her in his arms then sees Harry sitting in his crib watching on.
I'm certain this is going to make me cry harder. Quote:
# Professor McGonagall duels Snape in the Great Hall in front of the entire school before he turns to black "smoke" and smashing through a window.
Interesting... It's the most interesting battle (in my opinion) in the book. Snape vs. McGonagall in front of the whole school in the Great Hall? I'm looking forward towards it! Quote:
Remus, Tonks and Fred's deaths are not seen in the film, but are seen when the hour ceasfire is called Rn notices Fred then collaspes onto Fred crying.
What?! No!!! Quote:
# Part two goes for two hours without the end credits.
2 hours, ONLY?! They should make it longer. Not filming Remus', Tonk's & Fred's death is a bad idea after all.
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04-09-2011, 03:57 PM
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| | Hinkypunk
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Hate it. I'm starting to hate Deathly Hallows. What about Wormtail? Does he die?
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04-10-2011, 01:01 AM
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| | Gnome
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This is starting to sounds like a big heaping hot mess of unnecessary changes
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04-11-2011, 02:07 PM
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| | Horklump
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From looking on the Harry Potter wikia it does seem they have made a lot of changes BUT with an eye to make it more dramatic, the battle does sound like it is going to be incredibly epic!!!
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04-11-2011, 02:24 PM
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Why do they have to cut out bits fans want to see? And the battle between Harry and You-Know-Who was meant to be in the great hall. grrr.
Why is it only 2 hours long? I want more
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04-11-2011, 09:37 PM
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04-11-2011, 10:05 PM
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Quite interesting  I'm all for more Snape scenes, especially more flashbacks, though it means I'm only going to cry harder.
I'm not at all upset about not seeing Remus's and Tonks's death scenes. We don't see it in the book anyway - unless I don't remember it, and if that's the case, it must've been a very poor scene since I remember all the other death scenes. So long as they are acknowledged and shown to be dead, it's perfectly fine. And not really much of a change, so I'm not sure why it says it is?
As for Fred... The change for him could be good, and even if we don't see him actually die, if we do get to see his family with his dead body and all the emotion in that scene from the book is there, I'll be okay with it.
Snape's death...  I'm not sure where they get the idea that those changes are any more "romantic" than the way he died in the book. It sounds really vicious and just... I'm not sure how I'll handle watching it
Most of the other things listed on the wiki seem okay though, like Neville's duel and the R/Hr kiss
Either way, until the movie comes out, I think its best to hold off on a lot of critical judgment. Who knows, what sounds like a horrible change in writing might actually turn out to be a fantastic scene when shown in the movie
EDIT: The more I think about it, the more I love the idea of Voldemort turning into ash after getting hit with the Killing Curse at the end. I think it's sort of symbolic of his soul and the effect of him ripping his soul into multiple pieces has on him. His soul was already so unstable that a part of it broke off when he tried to kill Harry; by now it's hardly a real soul anymore. Unstable as it is and as inhuman as he is, it makes sense that he would react differently to contact with the Killing Curse than everyone else would. Instead of simply collapsing and becoming a corpse, he crumbles into ash.
I'm not sure I explained that at all well, but I hope you all get what I mean. It makes perfect sense in my head
Also, I was thinking about the length, and I think two hours is pretty good, considering what all is left in the DH book. In the first movie they went through pretty much over half of the book, and it was two and a half hours long. The only things that are really left for the last part is Gringotts and the Battle of Hogwarts. As I see it, the building up to Gringotts (talking to Ollivander/Griphook, give a little montage of the trio preparing, the nice little moment with the announcement of Teddy's birth) would probably only take about 10 minutes, 15 at the most. Breaking into Gringotts would probably take about 30 minutes. The Battle, I think, would probably take about an hour to convey properly, so 60 minutes. Then, at most, 5 minutes for the epilogue. Adding all that together (15 + 30 + 60 + 5) would give us about 1 hour and 50 minutes. But two hours sounds so much better than 1 hour and 15 minutes, so the added scenes and prolonged scenes from the book will give us at least a few minutes more so we can have a longer movie. So I think the changes can actually be pretty good, at least in that aspect
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04-13-2011, 03:01 PM
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I think it will be fantastic
I think we have to see the film first before we can write down
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04-15-2011, 11:15 PM
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It will be good, but some of the changes are seriously ticking me off.
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05-06-2011, 05:01 PM
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I disapprove of some of the changes...
If the final battle between Harry and Voldy is changed for location is everyone else(all the rest of the hogwarts students who were fighting) going to see it? The book had them in the great hall fighting and everyone was surrounding them watching. And that's when they realised that when harry 'died' he had casted the same spell/charm on everyone at hogwarts that his mother did when she died for harry.
I know that regardless of how many changes I like or dislike I'll still be in love with the movie.
I just wish they wouldn't change so much!
I thought the whole point of having two parts of deathly hallows was so they could make the longer movies WITHOUT changing hardly anything!?
ONLY 2 hours for part 2?! I could watch it for 10! Ha jk, well no not even kidding.
I also thought Ron & Hermiones kiss was sopossed to be in the room of requirement or either right before or after that scene?!
I'm really mad that they aren't having Luna take Harry into the Ravenclaws room and now he's only going by himself. I really wanted to see him stun Amycus for spitting inMcGonagall's face!
ALSO McGonagall vs Snape!? WOOT WOOT. That'll be a great battle to see.
SO STOAKED TO SEE IT.
I just hope that after all the changes it'll still be epic. I mean it is the last one..so the changes they're making must have to make the movie extremely epic. |
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05-06-2011, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Slytherin's Talon Hate it. I'm starting to hate Deathly Hallows. What about Wormtail? Does he die? Wormtail will not appear in Part 2.
What really ripping me apart is Snape is not killed by Nagini just like that. In fact, it's more brutal. Voldemort will slash Snape's throat with his own spell; Sectumsempra, using the Elder Wand. Then, Voldemort asks Nagini to finish him [Snape] off using Parseltongue. The scene when Nagini attacks Snape will not be shown, but Snape's screams will be heard and his blood will spatter on the Crystal House window while the trio watch in horror.
I don't think I can handle my emotions when that happens.
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05-06-2011, 06:19 PM
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I'm sure how I feel about some of the changes. J.K rowling wrote the book the way it is for a reason....
But we'll just have to wait the 69 days to see it!
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05-06-2011, 08:37 PM
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Wow....those are a lot of changes. I'm sure it will still be good, though. |
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They should have made it longer by including the scenes that they cut.
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08-12-2011, 12:58 PM
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Thats a lot of changes but i wish they would have left it just like the book like in the shrieking shack not in the boat house
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08-15-2011, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by suninthesummer34 Thats a lot of changes but i wish they would have left it just like the book like in the shrieking shack not in the boat house
I agree. It's more poetic really in the Shrieking shack....where Snape could have been seriously injured or died as a child, where he ran to protect Harry from the so called dangerous Sirius Black, and then where he went to die. It's full circle.
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08-19-2011, 01:27 PM
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08-23-2011, 01:57 PM
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there were a few changes in the book to film, but it didnt take away the amazing magic. the film was epic, it had everything harry potter fans wanted for the last film. i cried for about, 3 days after seeing it the first time, and the 2nd time, even longer. even my dad cried at it. it really shows the emotions..its just the best finale.
and about the time, i really did want it to be longer, as i didnt want it to end, but at the same time, it was a good time to end on..
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