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08-20-2010, 04:00 PM
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| | Bundimun
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| Death of our Beloved Characters We have witnessed a lot of deaths in the Final installment of HP... Particularly, the death of our Beloved characters: [*spoiler warning!] Alastor Moody
Dobby
Fred Weasley
Remus Lupin
Nymphadora Tonks
Severus Snape
Were you satisfied about how they died? D'you wished their death should have been cleared in the story somehow? D'you think it's worth it? Or perhaps JKR should have just let other characters to die instead of them?
Feel free to post your reactions here! UPDATE: I've just noticed that my thread must be in the Flourish and Blotts area, cause I'm pertaining to what had happened in the book.
So now, being part of the Ollivander's page, just also include your thoughts on how they should show the deaths of those characters when the film comes out.
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08-20-2010, 07:37 PM
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| | Crup
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No, they ought to be dead. That makes the story beautiful. But, did they kill of Hedwig or not in the movie?
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08-20-2010, 07:48 PM
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I think there are no battles without sacrifices..
But I was hopping that Harry and Snape talk to each other before Snape passed out.. 
I mean after Harry knew that Snape was a good man.
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08-20-2010, 07:56 PM
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I think that if they didn't die then nothing would be the same (not to be obvious or anything)!! If they hadnt died then there wouldnt have been much to cry at
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08-21-2010, 03:07 AM
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| | Bundimun
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I do agree with you guys.
I think it's really one of the things that made the whole story very dramatic and epic. Without these characters being killed, we won’t be able to appreciate everything in the end. It’s these deaths that gave spice in the storyline.
I was just sad and disappointed about the death of Lupin, Tonks and Moody.
It feels very unfair for me to know that they didn’t got a chance to see Moody’s body anymore. Apparently, he was just gone. While on the part of Lupin and Tonks, they should have at least shown how the couple were killed, they should have put a little of it somehow. I was very shocked that they were just found dead in the book. Very frustrating to think that they were missed somehow. I just wished that we got to see most of them before they bite the dust. Quote:
Originally Posted by neaped No, they ought to be dead. That makes the story beautiful. But, did they kill of Hedwig or not in the movie? I was also thinking about that, because there's a part from the promo pics wherein Harry had let go of Hedwig. We will know what really happened when the film is already out.
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08-21-2010, 03:55 PM
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Tonks was my favorite! Why did she die, and Lupin too with the baby just arriving  But you forgot someone on the list. Colin Creevery died too
I think they said Harry let her go but then she comes back to rescue them or something at the end and she dies then.
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08-23-2010, 11:29 PM
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| | Puffskein
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I really didn't like the thought that Fred or Lupin died. Hogwarts is changing.
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08-24-2010, 12:45 AM
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| | Puffskein
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I really didn't like the thought that Fred or Lupin died. Hogwarts is changing.
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08-24-2010, 03:46 AM
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| | Bundimun
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Originally Posted by EmilyMalfoy Tonks was my favorite! Why did she die, and Lupin too with the baby just arriving  But you forgot someone on the list. Colin Creevery died too
I think they said Harry let her go but then she comes back to rescue them or something at the end and she dies then.
Thanks for reminding me about Colin Creevey.
But apparently, let's just wait for the film to come out for us to be sure if they have included Colin.
I've just noticed that my thread must be in the Flourish and Blotts area, cause I'm pertaining to what had happened in the book.
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08-24-2010, 03:01 PM
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WHAT ABOUT HEDWIG?!?!?! me loves Hedwig  I cried when Hedwig died ... and when Snape died and whe Fred died .... I cried a lot during that book
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09-28-2010, 11:23 PM
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| | Puffskein
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Okay, so the battle needs to be a big, action-packed, insane production and I will be satisfied with nothing less. As the movies are allowed a little creative wiggle-room to deviate from the books, I would really love for them to donate a bit of screen time to show some of the more meaningful death scenes. Make it so that even the viewers with no preexisting connection to the characters (not into the books) really understand the emotional gravity of the situation. I'd definitely make a point to show Tonks and Lupin's death scene. Make it something that really tugged at your heartstrings. Something that let you know that they were in love until their last breath.
Another one that they would definitely have to give a little time to is Fred. He's one of the closest to being a main character that dies in this film. It would be completly irrational to not show that death scene. Another one that tugs at your heartstrings. Show George reacting. Make 'em bawl like little babies.
I'm not going to say anything about Snape because there's very little way that they could keep the movie true without making a show of his death scene.
All I know is that if they don't give Fred, Tonks, and Remus their propers in this film, I will be severely disappointed.
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10-03-2010, 04:17 AM
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| | Doxy
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Unfortunately, the final part of the series just wouldn't be a brilliant, climactic end to the story without some tragic deaths of much-loved characters. That being said...
...I would give anything in the world for the Weasley twins to make it through unscathed.  I still feel a big hole in my heart knowing that the twins are permanently separated. (A bit dramatic, yes, but completely true.)
The other deaths were really tough to read, but probably necessary in the long run -- except perhaps that of Lupin and Tonks, who I kind of wish had made it.
As for the movie portrayals...they'd better be heart-wrenching. That's all I'm saying. Do the books (and characters) justice! |
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10-03-2010, 04:39 AM
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The deaths of Hedwig and Dobby broke my heart!!!!!!!!  They were such good friends to Harry, but it was heartbreakingly beautiful.
Moody didn't really phase me, to be honest...I never really got the good side of his personality for some reason. However, I was bawling into my pillow for Remus. He was such a great guy, and he and Tonks had just became parents! NOOOO, now poor Teddy is all alone!  Lupin was so fragile, yet so strong, and extremely brave, I couldn't take it.
Colin Creevey, the poor guy just wanted to fight! He was a strong member of the DA and he deserved to fight. It was so unfair, he never hurt a fly.
Severus...Snape.
I'm getting a little teary thinking about it right now. He was a great man inside. I should've seen it coming, the Sev/Lily thing. Extrordinarily brave, so compassionate (when he was young) even though his parents weren't quite so supportive, and an excellent potions master/defense against the dark arts professor.
If the films don't make me cry into my popcorn, I will be very disappointed.
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10-10-2010, 01:04 AM
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10-11-2010, 03:14 AM
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my mates and i were talking about this today and how Fred's death effected us the most because we got to know Fred really well. It us more then if it was George (sadly) because Fred spoke more in the book making us closer to him.
The fact that Remus died was horrible because he was the last of the Marauder and properly my favorite one at that. and as well as Tonks dying leaving poor little Teddy bdy himself is really sad.
but Severus death was horrible.... he was always my favorite and i felt closer to him though out the series.
i think they always kill off the best characters its sad =(
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10-26-2010, 07:47 PM
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While i am one hundred percent excited for this movie i am very upset because i know when i was reading the book and Fred died i had to put it down so in the movie its ganna be horrible so me personally i just wish they would have made at least him stay alive cause i luv him  <3 And then to kill off snape just after they give you the whole insight on his side its horrible. and Dobby....i better stop here because i could go on forever about how much i love these characters and how much i wished they would not be gone.
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10-30-2010, 02:24 AM
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| | Ghoul
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Originally Posted by AurorPrince We have witnessed a lot of deaths in the Final installment of HP... Particularly, the death of our Beloved characters: [*spoiler warning!] Alastor Moody
Dobby
Fred Weasley
Remus Lupin
Nymphadora Tonks
Severus Snape
Were you satisfied about how they died? D'you wished their death should have been cleared in the story somehow? D'you think it's worth it? Or perhaps JKR should have just let other characters to die instead of them?  I wish Fred didn't have to die. He was practically family to Harry throughout the series...like an older brother role model. Also, with Remus and Nymphadora dying and they made Harry the godfather of their son that was awesome. I jusy wish the could have lived because I could see Lupin being almost a "father fiigure" to Harry just like Sirius was.
I'm almost 100% positive that I'll cry when I see Dobby die. He was just such a great little house elf..Especially in the books because he was noted more in there.
Snape dying made the book. As much as I didn't wanted anyone to die, he was the one that needed to to make the book. If he didn't die Harry would have never got his memory so the 7th book wouldn't have been the same. Snape was a great guy and died for a good cause. Plus the memory made it seem like that once Snape agreed to being death eater and spy for Hogwarts it was almost like he knew he would have died sooner or later. So it wasn't as much as a sad death as I thought it would be.
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11-18-2010, 10:52 PM
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| | Ghoul
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I disagree with most people here. I would have loved it far better if Moody and Fred lived. I hate thinking half the characters died.
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11-18-2010, 11:01 PM
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Ive never read the books but have read up on the last movies and what is supposed to happen both in the books and in the films. I would say i have no problem with who dies only that i think Snape's exit is a bit lazy in terms of redemption for Severus. I know Harry ends up using his name for one of his own children but the final moments seem a bit odd to me when he wants to look Harry in the face. I suppose it just depends on what he says to Harry at that point and if it makes sense in the end.
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11-19-2010, 10:46 AM
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Moody's death was so insensitive! They could have at least spent a few minutes to show how he dies, and give him a nice speech. Hedwig's was okay, I suppose. I mean, even though it is just an owl and it dies helping Harry it felt so fast and like they just wanted to show the reason for the owl's absence in the rest of the movie. However, Dobby's death was beautiful. His speech as a free house elf and on friendship was very well done, it definitely made him justice. I still wish he hadn't died, but at least it was done beautifully. I cried like a baby.
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11-19-2010, 01:54 PM
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Did it show in the movie when dobby died?!?
When i read it in the books i cried....I cried alot during the book and i probably will during the movie to.
RIP:
Alastor Moody
Dobby
Fred Weasley
Remus Lupin
Nymphadora Tonks
Severus Snape
Hedwig
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11-20-2010, 04:38 AM
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I think all of those characters should die as stated in the book because it shows the reality of what war is all about... nobody is prone to survive horrible war...
You mentioned Colin, i have not seen him in the movies since COS and instead they showed Nigel in the rest of the movie.. i bet you 1 gallon ( i dont have any LOL) that Nigel will die in DH2!!
Whatcha think?
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11-21-2010, 12:16 AM
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To the original question - Didn't JKR spare Arthur's life in OOTP, and in replacement, killed off Tonks and Lupin. That annoyed me when I found out, the wizarding world needs more metamorphmagi and werewolves.
To the movie question - Nat Tena said that Tonks is only shown laying down dead, like in the books. I would like to see the battle between her and Bellatrix and what 'went down'. Also, I wonder if Remus is seen dueling Dolohov?
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11-21-2010, 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by ronluvhermione I think all of those characters should die as stated in the book because it shows the reality of what war is all about... nobody is prone to survive horrible war...
You mentioned Colin, i have not seen him in the movies since COS and instead they showed Nigel in the rest of the movie.. i bet you 1 gallon ( i dont have any LOL) that Nigel will die in DH2!!
Whatcha think? I could see it  Colin to me in the books represented the innocent characters who died--he was just always so carefree and always eager to help the cause, and in the end he paid for it with his life. Nigel is a bit like that in the films, and I could see them using him to represent the same thing in the final movie. Quote:
Originally Posted by Kounuctla To the original question - Didn't JKR spare Arthur's life in OOTP, and in replacement, killed off Tonks and Lupin. That annoyed me when I found out, the wizarding world needs more metamorphmagi and werewolves.
To the movie question - Nat Tena said that Tonks is only shown laying down dead, like in the books. I would like to see the battle between her and Bellatrix and what 'went down'. Also, I wonder if Remus is seen dueling Dolohov? I thought it was Fred who died instead of Arthur? I could be wrong, but I thought I read somewhere that JK always knew ONE of the Weasleys was going to die, and instead of Arthur, she chose Fred. I'm not sure but I thought that's what I read.
I was VERY pleased with how Dobby's death was portrayed, and I really hope Snape's death will be given the attention it deserves. I think it's really important to show EXACTLY where his character's intentions really were, so I expect plenty of Snape memories in the second part
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11-21-2010, 01:23 AM
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pretty sure i cried the hardest in the theatre when dobby died
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