OK, we all know about the Order Of The Phoenix. We know why it was formed, who was in it...etc. Let's look at the DA. We know why it was formed, who was in it....etc. Does anyone else notice a connection between Dumbledore's Army?

Dumbledore founded the Order. The DA has Dumbledore's name in it and was founded on a belief in Dumbledore.

Harry and Ron's parents were and still are active members (minus the Potter's). Harry and Ron are active members of the DA.

The Order's mission was to stop Voldemort from gaining power, and eventually stopping him completely. The DA's mission was to teach DADA...and eventually kicking Umbridge's large behind!

There are some, who agrees with me? Or disagrees, I won't destroy them

Katie

I agree with you, I have also noticed so definite relation between the memebers of the DA and the adults in the OotP. When OotP first game out I kept calling it the "Minny Order" (Dr. Evil's Minny Me). hem hem sorry about that. Seriously though, I do agree with you and I think that will come out to be important in this next book.

I think it was sad that the DA didn't come back in HBP, which could just be a ruse by Jo to keep us off our feet, but I really don't see a need for Dumbledore's Army when there's The Order of the Phoenix? I mean wouldn't you essentially just grow up and join into the League? Like in comic books, yes there's a need for the Teen Titans, but when you come of age, you want to graduate to The Justice League, you don't want to be known as a Teen Titan. Dumbledore's Army has the same problem. It was created NOT TO FIGHT UMBRIDGE it was created to subvert her desire NOT TO TEACH proper DADA, which is a message people seem to clearly miss. Jo is trying to say, if you want to learn something right, or you don't think they're teaching you right, go out and learn it yourself. Which I totally agree.

That said, I think if there ever was going to be another Dumbledore's Army it would be like years later, when Harry's all grown up and married with Ginny and their kids had to fight a new threat now do you see why I want a sequel?

So ... I don't expect the DA needs to exist, but if it does come out in DH that would so r0x0rs I don't expect it though

The Otty has stolen my heart once again...

I believe that there was some connection with the DA and the OotP, acctually a BIG connection. However, I do not believe the DA will make in future returns in DH, but that would mean major Kudos to JKR!!

-Sam

I just hope that the former members of the DA have some part in the final book. Even though Umbridge is gone it doesn't mean that they can't help out against Voldy, does it?

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I really do wish however the DA would re-appear in DH, but again, seriously, do we need them? Maybe a new transformed DA ... we really don't know what threat awaits Harry or the other students in DH. Dumbledore's Army all grown up would be cool, but again I say, why not just allow them into The Order?

That said ...

You can bet your socks hogwartsluvr64, that they will play a part in the next book, I mean people are already taking bets on Neville offing Harry which I don't think would be the case how dumb is that? But Neville and Luna and Ron and Hermione obviously will play a role in the fight, and we can't forget Ginny. Dean and the others I don't know ... but I'm sure in their own way they too will fight Voldemort. My personal theory is that the picture on the cover of the American book is going to be the Hogwart's graveyard, which Jo would not let Alfonso Cuaron film in the 3rd movie for reasons she wouldn't say. To date, we haven't seen them, and the term Deathly Hallows ... well holy dead things? Think graveyard ... likely one of the horcruxes is buried there or that's where the final fight will take place and the spirits of Harry's parents or other dead heroes, maybe the founders, will help or at least inspire Harry to defeat Voldemort once and for all. And wouldn't that just be genius? To kill Voldemort in a graveyard? I mean ... someone who fears death so much? I think so ...

Thoughts?

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See Ron is Superman, Harry cuz he's so dark is Batman, and Hermione cuz she's so cool is Wonder Woman and I guess Seamus can be Green Lantern, and Dean Lighting?

I think you might be on to something Ottery... I didn't know about the Graveyard not being allowed to be filmed in the third movie, I didn't think that JKR had any say in what was filmed and what wasn't, but I hadn't thought of that as being a possible location for a Horcrux or the final battle. I think that I (along with almost everyone else) assumed that it would be in the graveyard by the Riddle house, although that explains the arches (which immediately reminded me of the school) I was thinking it was in the stadium where Harry had to deal with the Dragon in book 4.

As far as the DA members just graduating into the Order, I don't think they can do that until they are 17 and I am not sure if Molly would allow them too although it certainly seems like they have seen more action, doesn't it

C'mon Ottery, gimmie some credit. I know very well why the DA was formed (see quote). I did NOT miss that message, the DA's mission WAS to teach DADA.

Katie

P.S. Don't take that for an angry message Ottery, please? I just get upset when people misinterpret .

I would really like to see the DA and DH again. But this time it could be more for pre-Auror training. Headed by Harry who might just have a little DA tail behind him, the DA might end up as a younger version of the Order and they might help Harry fight Voldermort before they are of age

*Ahem* There is a reason that my original comments did not follow a quote since they weren't actually directed at anyone specifically nor in reply to anyone's specific argument but rather to the whole argument period. This would be an example of me replying specifically to your comment specifically.


I hate when people misinterpret me, too. Which is why I hate that you think that my original argument was some kind of personal attack on what you said. I read your original quote and you did indeed say the DA was formed to teach DADA then wouldn't it stand to reason since I didn't reply directly to your comment that I did not intend that part directly at you? Here you misinterpret me. And if I was the getting-upset kind I might be, as it is I'm just correcting you.

Moving on ... back to the discussion.

Yes I really do know everything, and yes I hate it when people imply I meant something I didn't ... I hate it also when they don't get that I implied something I totally implied. I also hate death eaters, and sad endings ... I hope you're reading this Jo ... but moving on ...

I want the DA back too as I already said ... somewhere ... I shouldn't post so much ... but I doubt it. I also think that's seriously going to be a graveyard at the school but everyone seems to think a Deathly Hallow is someone ... so *shrugs* who am I to fight the power of mass mediocrity? *Fires the cannons* We shall see when the book comes out ...

well i am with ottery and partly with alicia.the DA"s ambition was to teach DADA.i think few of the DA members will help harry of course.we all want the DA back but i think that is less likely.well lets hope to find out in the DH

Sorry Otty...HUGS! *gives Ottery and muffin*

Muffins PWN, but I still want to see the DA come back ... I just don't think they will. I mean I think the members will fight alongside Harry and the Order but I don't think they'll be calling themselves Dumbledore's Army ... unless ... if Ginny stays at the school she could ... you know ... maybe keep up with the teaching and gather an army of students who come to Harry's aid at the end of the book ... just a thought ... Thanks for the muffin LyonLover417.

Lol Hugs Otts!

Humm i have just noticed that most of the people in the DA, their parents were in the OotP

^^^ That's true, that might be one of JK's hints that they will be a new order, she has a lot of hints in her books, I read about them in a theory forum thing...

It's a bit like junior and senior scouts.... Most, if not all of the DA could potentially become members of the Order once they graduate from Hogwarts! Dumbledore started the Order, but Hermione started the DA due to the position Umbridge put them all in...it wasn't so much out of rebellion as it was the need for self-preservation...much the same reason the Order was formed. There are definate parallels between the two. It will be neat to see how and IF the DA members will be a factor in the final battle and which ones. The DA was basically disbanded after Umbridge left, but Harry tried to call them together in HBP..the members probably had put up their coins by then, except of course for the two members that loved the DA the most...Luna and Neville, and their possible involvement in the final battle is another discussion taking place right now!

Since the events in DH, I really think that DA could be a new Order! I mean, Jo said that even though Harry, Ron and Hermione didn't graduate [which I think implies they really didn't come back to finish 7th year], Ron and Harry have the top jobs in the Ministry as Aurors[I think...]. And since there really wasn't mention of what the other DA memebers did [except that Neville was a professor, probalby for DADA, and that Luna travels the world in search of new beasts and magical creatures], most of the DA members must've gotten a job in the field of DADA.

I still love muffins!

*fires the cannons for muffins* But I'd like to know where everyone is getting their post DH information ... like Gigi said about Ron and Harry being aurors and what not? Obviously they didn't graduate in DH which is why I think Jo should write a book 8. Yup yup.

But as for the DA ... it still existed in DH, and I'd like to know who all was there and what did they do. I imagine they were trying to thwart the Death Eaters, but how? Blowing up toilets and what not? Did they recruit new members? What was their mission statement?

Because if you remember correctly the original DA had formed to teach DADA since the ministry wouldn't, but ... now where they just fighting? In which case I can see the case for the DA being called 'unofficially' the new order. I could also see the DA members as a group being a 'new order of the phoenix' even after Voldemort is vanquished, they might have still hunted down escaped Death Eaters and what not, like the Nazi hunters after WWII. I wish the epilogue had been more informative ... *grumbles*

^I got the stuff from an interview with JK...no I didn't do the interview, silly! I just saw it somewhere so...yeah...


^I dont' want a book 8 or a longer epilogue...I just want some other book that is totally HP related that tells about what they are currently doing...and that Neville and Luna got married

I want a whole other book, it would be nice if Jo kept writing them, but ... I mean imagine writing a book about the adventures of Teddy Lupin? Now wouldn't that be cool?

How they had to reform a new order ... that would be the members of the old DA, Seamus, Dean, Harry, Ron, Luna, Hermione, Neville and the rest, and their kids could then become the DA, a sort of legend that Dobby would tell them, because he'd still be at Hogwarts only while Teddy, Albus and the others were a part of the DA they wouldn't know their parents had originally formed the group ...

See? Tailor made for cuteness. Draco's kid could even be in the DA then and there could be a whole new dark lord and blah blah blah.

Don't ask me where I get all this genius. I just do. I'm with you Gigi, Luna ran off with Neville, she'd have too ... I mean ... he destroyed a horcrux, heck even Harry couldn't do that in DH. No seriously, he didn't, the only horcrux Harry decimated was the book in COS.