Come in here to talk all things theory about The Man. Does he know where more Horcruxes are? Why exactly does he trust Snape? And was his death planned?

All that and more...

I think that his death was planned but what I was wondering was this. In the first or second book there was a minor mention of the scar on Albus's leg of the London underground. Do you think that JK would put something like that in the books and not use it anywhere else?

That is definately something to think about, that map. As we all must have read by now, we know that JK has taken our man from us in one way, but, as Harry told Tom in the Chamber, "He will never be gone as long as there are those who are loyal to him!" This, I know is the truth! Dumbledore's influence and knowledge will remain a strong influence in the last book. This influence will be a big factor in how Harry finally defeats Voldemort, whether he helps guide Harry to the Horcruzes or whatever, we will see it, I am certain!

I definitely agree that he will not truly be gone from Hogwarts, because there will always be some people who are still loyal to him there. I think his death was planned with Snape, and my theory on why he trusts Snape is that he and Snape have an Unbreakable Vow. Something to the effect that he will always remain loyal to Dumbledore and do what he asks, no matter what, and not return to Voldemort as a loyal servant.

As for the map, I really don't think that it will play a role in the last book, but that's just me.

Yeah...not truely gone....but I am not sure about the death being planned bit....

Why don't you believe the death wasn't planned?

Because the book says that harry saw something in Dumbldore's eyes that he had never seen before - fear (or pleading or something like that)....anyways....i am convinced Snape is evil

I'm not sure I think his death was planned. Sure, he had fear in his eyes, but he was facing a wand and an evil Snape, but it might of been real fear, if only for a second. He didn't want to die, but knew that if he did Harry would be fine in knowing Dumbledore would always be around.

Now, we all know what happened in the cave, but was was he re-living? was the potion a memory that was bewitched to drink? I personally don't think so but it's something to think about. Oh, and the words he was saying "Make it stop..." or something like that; it must of been something truly painful for him to cry that. Maybe the liquid in the pensieve-looking bowl was part posion, part memory.

Yep, I'm the queen of making up strange theories

Hehe....well, I have to disagree with you that Snape is evil. But could that fear just be the fear of whether Snape would follow through? Dumbledore, I don't think, if scared of dying. But he's scared about the war and it's outcome, and though he trusts Harry, does he think that Harry is ready to take this on as his war now?

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Originally Posted by Health Nut

Now, we all know what happened in the cave, but was was he re-living? was the potion a memory that was bewitched to drink? I personally don't think so but it's something to think about. Oh, and the words he was saying "Make it stop..." or something like that; it must of been something truly painful for him to cry that. Maybe the liquid in the pensieve-looking bowl was part posion, part memory.

I've always wondered what exactly that liquid was, and why it made Dumbledore cry out like that. At first I just thought it might be an awful drink, but maybe it is forcing him to relive some kind of memory. Something from his childhood that we don't know maybe?!?! Or perhaps it's a reverse of the Mirror of Erised. Makes him see his worst fears....

Actually, I don't think that the theory is strange at all! And this IS fantasy we are talking about....the strangest ideas could one day seem soooo obvious!

I think you are right about the potion...it must be something painful which made Dumbledore behave......the way he did.

There was something that he relived that hurt him but it was never really explained. Do you think that Dumbledore had a wife and child and if so what happened to them? I think that he protects all the other children at Hogwarts because maybe he could not protect his own. That is one of my many weird theories. Dumbledore placed his important memories inside the Pensive. So what happened to it after Dumbledore's death and does his memories remain. Will he some how comunicate with Harry through the Pensive?

I think Dumbledore's gonna communicate with Harry but not through the pensieve, through his portrait. I think Dumbledore could be off assistance in the final book by giving aid to Harry like clues or helping him solve things and also, maybe he'll be able to go into other portaits and see things. Phineas Nigellus was able to switch from his portrait in the Headmaster's office to his portrait at Grimmauld Place. I'm not sure if Dumbledore ever had a wife and kids. I think that JKR wouldn't mention it anyways because not many people care much and it would just make the book longer by going into all his details. I think McGonagall was the closest thing to a wife Dumbledore ever had. Or Madame Pomfrey. I'm pretty sure Dumbledore liked her.

I wonder what other places have portraits of Dumbledore? Like Phineus' portrait was in the Headmaster's office and at the Black house, and others had portraits at the Ministry and at St. Mungo's.

I don't know but I would guess that Harry will have difficulty locating them in his search for the Horcruxes. Dumbledore could have a potrait at Grimauld Place Sirius's old home does belong to Harry now. He could have the portrait moved from one of the other locations and brought there so that he could have easy access to Dumbledore. Plus where Phineus will not listen to Harry I think that he respected Dumbledore enough to help him though. Do you think that Dumbledore saw the outcome of the war before he died? He always seemed to know things before anyone else did.

I think he knows that Voldemort will get defeated. Whether he knows if Harry will survive, I don't know. I think he has high hopes for Harry, but I'm not sure if Harry will survive or not. But moving his portrait would be a good idea, especially now that McGonagall is headmistress now. And it would be in the Order headquarters, too!

The books don't say much about Dumbledore's family. All we know is that he has a brother and that is about it. I read somewhere something that hinted that Dumbledore may be a descendent of Godrick Gryffindore. We know he was in the Gryffindore House as a student....what are your theories here?

It would tie a lot of loose ends together if DD was GG's heir. plus, then their would be two lines to the founders of the school. But I don't think so, because that would be something to boast about on the chocolate frog cards. Unless it is a secret that Harry finds out about in the last book.

I don't think that he is, just because a lot of people expect it. JK doesn't usually use obvious clues that a lot of people expect to happen, at least for something this big.

I haven't expected that, mostly because I don't have any expectations, I go with the flow and read the book when it finally comes out... Besides, I don't think I've been surprised that much by J.K.'s book, maybe, again only because I don't expect anything.

But I think it's realistic, why not? He owns GG's sword too, I don't know if that's a coincidence, I might have forgotten something but...

And again, not everyone needs to know that DD is GG's hair. THe chocolate frog creators could be as clueless as the Daily Prophet journalists.

Ooo, I was so excited to se JK updaiung her site. I have new theories bouncing around about the invisibility cloak now We never did find out why Jamer's gave it to him before he died, there could be many reasons. What if James gave it to Dumbledore because he knew Dumbledore would make it stronger, maybe it's not just an invisiblity cloak, what if it has more powers we don't know about, to help Harry out more? Dumbledore could of done something to it, it would help Harry out in the end.

Ha. How''s that for a thoery

I have to agree with Oona's earlier post that something bad might have happened to Dumbledore's family and that is what he might have been reliving down in the cavern! All we know about his family is that he has a brother, Aberforth, and from what it known, he doesn't sound too stable....that charge with the sheep? Something disturbing and tramatic might have happened that affected them both. And it probably had nothing to do with Voldemort, but that other dark wizard, Grindelwald. He might have attacked and killed most of Dumbledore's family and that drove him to defeat the wizard in 1945 and to plot so strongly against Voldemort later. It could have been a wife and children, it could have been his parents and siblings, or even both, knowing Dumbledore's great age. Harry could remind him of himself and what he went through, which could be a motivating factor in his determination to help Harry! Any thoughts?

I had never thought much about the invisibility cloak before. I just figured James had given it to Dumbledore when he figured out that Voldemort would be coming for him and Lily. He knew that Dumbledore would pass it down to Harry. But now I have all of these thoughts running through my head as to what it can do! I agree with Health_nut. I believe it has some kind of special powers that can help Harry out. I know there's a theory going around that says it's a horcrux, but I really doubt that. I am truly surprised, though, that this invisibility cloak has some kind of crucial importance to the series. It makes me even more anxious for book 7 to come out!!!!!

Here is a link that proves my theory about Dumbledores death being unplanned wrong.

Severus Snape:
The Unlikely Hero of Harry Potter book 7

P.S. I don't agree with the RAB and Harry being a Horcrux bit.

'Harry won't die' says literature expert

This one is quite intresting as well.

I love reading those. Here's another one that is devoted to DD

Dumbledore is not dead

I've read this one over multiple times, but I find the more I read it the more I want it to come true. I'm going to find a couple more links, but the site I linked has way more that I haven't even gotten into. It's a good read.

I liked the one about Snape, though I do agree to disagree about the RAB thing. Maybe. Hehe....I don't know. As for Harry being a Horcrux, I'm not convinced of it, but I'm not knocking it out as a possibility. I think I've read the "Dumbledore Isn't Dead" one, but we all know that he really is dead now. But I love reading what some of the most devoted HP fans have to think, because I could never come up with theories like that! cedsgirl, I'm going to post a link on the SSFC to that one article you just posted, but I will most certainly tell everyone that you told us about it!