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carola9146 · 08-09-2007, 04:23 PM

The story was somewhat confusing. There were a lot of things going on at the end there. The end brought in the horcruxes, Lily's scarfice, the Deathly Hallows, all of which were needed for Harry to win.

But, Harry didn't need to make a horcrux to live and he never created one.

Voldemort killed Harry and the horcrux inside of his scar at the end of Chapter 34. Because Harry allowed Voldemort to kill him, without fight back, Voldemort destroyed the part of his soul that was in Harry scar. Leaving Harry's soul whole and his own. Dumbledore explains this in Chapter 35 - Page 708 - US edition.

Harry can live only while Voldemort lives not because of a horcrux but because of Harry's blood and Lily's magical protection.

Voldemort used Harry's blood to create his living body. Harry's blood with Lily's protection is inside both Voldemort and Harry. Using Harry's blood was a mistake. Voldemort's body keeps Lily's protection alive thus keeping Harry alive. Voldemort instead of destroying the bond he shared with Harry the night he regained his body in GOF, Voldemort doubled that bond when he returned to human form. Bond one was the horcrux scar, bond two is the love protection Lily left behind. The horcrux scar was destroyed but Lily's bond is still there!

Now, when Harry willingly died to save all of those he loved at the end of Chapter 34 TWO importanted things happened other than the scar horcrux being destroyed.

ONE: Harry created his own - "new" blood protection. That is why none of the DE's or Voldemort's spells could hold against those people who continued to fight against Voldemort & the DE's whenr Hagrid brought back Harry's believed-to-be dead body from the forrest (Chapter 36). Harry explains this to Voldemort in Chapter 36 - page 738 to 743- US edition.

TWO: Harry became Master of the Elder wand and Master of the Deathly Hallows. Basiclly, Voldie not "really" killing Harry allowed this to happen. Voldemort failed to master Dumbledore's wand (really the Elder Wand) thus leaving Harry as the true master of the Elder Wand.

After Harry dies and visits King's Cross this is where the story shifts and Horcruxes become less important and Hallows take the center stadge!

Harry became Master of Death when he willingly allowed Voldemort to kill!

Harry was the only person (the one in a million according to Dumbledore) that was able to reunite the Deathly Hallows (the stone, the cloak and the wand) and become their true master.

Why? Because Harry didn't want to use their power for himself - to save himself - or to gain power like Voldemort but more importantly because the true master of death does not run away from Death but accepts it.

Harry was then given the choice - to say dead or to come back. Harry came because of the blood protection but was armed with the "power the Dark Lord knows not" - knowledge and truth! That is how Harry was able to survive without a horcux and defeat Voldemort.

Eventhough Harry did not have the Elder wand in his hand Harry was true master of the Elder Wand because he disarmed the wand's last owner - Draco. Harry had disarmed Draco and took his wand weeks ago. Draco was the master of Dumbledore's wand (the Elder Wand) because Draco took the wand from Dumbledore in HBP and planed to kill Dumbledore. That was when Snape killed Dumbledore instead. Snape could never be master of the wand because Dumbledore planned for Snape to kill him. This was another mistake Voldemort made. He thought Snape was the wand's Master and that is why he killed him. Voldemort didn't realize that just holding a wand isn't enough - the wand chooses the wizard. Dumbledore's wand (the Elder wand) reconginzed Draco as it's master NOT Snape.

Harry was able to gain control of the the Elder Wand because he had Draco's wand. The Elder Wand chose Harry over Voldemort when they both issued their commands on page 743 of Chapter 36. That is why the Elder did Harry's spell and Voldemort's spell was turned back at him.

Harry survived in the end because of
1) the accidental horcrux scar;
2) his mother's protection
3) his knowlege of the Deathly Hallows

It's still confusing (I have no idea how this will work for the film and not be) but I hope this helps!

08-09-2007, 04:23 PM	#2 (permalink)
carola9146 Chizpurfle Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Southern NJ Posts: 717	The story was somewhat confusing. There were a lot of things going on at the end there. The end brought in the horcruxes, Lily's scarfice, the Deathly Hallows, all of which were needed for Harry to win. But, Harry didn't need to make a horcrux to live and he never created one. Voldemort killed Harry and the horcrux inside of his scar at the end of Chapter 34. Because Harry allowed Voldemort to kill him, without fight back, Voldemort destroyed the part of his soul that was in Harry scar. Leaving Harry's soul whole and his own. Dumbledore explains this in Chapter 35 - Page 708 - US edition. Harry can live only while Voldemort lives not because of a horcrux but because of Harry's blood and Lily's magical protection. Voldemort used Harry's blood to create his living body. Harry's blood with Lily's protection is inside both Voldemort and Harry. Using Harry's blood was a mistake. Voldemort's body keeps Lily's protection alive thus keeping Harry alive. Voldemort instead of destroying the bond he shared with Harry the night he regained his body in GOF, Voldemort doubled that bond when he returned to human form. Bond one was the horcrux scar, bond two is the love protection Lily left behind. The horcrux scar was destroyed but Lily's bond is still there! Now, when Harry willingly died to save all of those he loved at the end of Chapter 34 TWO importanted things happened other than the scar horcrux being destroyed. ONE: Harry created his own - "new" blood protection. That is why none of the DE's or Voldemort's spells could hold against those people who continued to fight against Voldemort & the DE's whenr Hagrid brought back Harry's believed-to-be dead body from the forrest (Chapter 36). Harry explains this to Voldemort in Chapter 36 - page 738 to 743- US edition. TWO: Harry became Master of the Elder wand and Master of the Deathly Hallows. Basiclly, Voldie not "really" killing Harry allowed this to happen. Voldemort failed to master Dumbledore's wand (really the Elder Wand) thus leaving Harry as the true master of the Elder Wand. After Harry dies and visits King's Cross this is where the story shifts and Horcruxes become less important and Hallows take the center stadge! Harry became Master of Death when he willingly allowed Voldemort to kill! Harry was the only person (the one in a million according to Dumbledore) that was able to reunite the Deathly Hallows (the stone, the cloak and the wand) and become their true master. Why? Because Harry didn't want to use their power for himself - to save himself - or to gain power like Voldemort but more importantly because the true master of death does not run away from Death but accepts it. Harry was then given the choice - to say dead or to come back. Harry came because of the blood protection but was armed with the "power the Dark Lord knows not" - knowledge and truth! That is how Harry was able to survive without a horcux and defeat Voldemort. Eventhough Harry did not have the Elder wand in his hand Harry was true master of the Elder Wand because he disarmed the wand's last owner - Draco. Harry had disarmed Draco and took his wand weeks ago. Draco was the master of Dumbledore's wand (the Elder Wand) because Draco took the wand from Dumbledore in HBP and planed to kill Dumbledore. That was when Snape killed Dumbledore instead. Snape could never be master of the wand because Dumbledore planned for Snape to kill him. This was another mistake Voldemort made. He thought Snape was the wand's Master and that is why he killed him. Voldemort didn't realize that just holding a wand isn't enough - the wand chooses the wizard. Dumbledore's wand (the Elder wand) reconginzed Draco as it's master NOT Snape. Harry was able to gain control of the the Elder Wand because he had Draco's wand. The Elder Wand chose Harry over Voldemort when they both issued their commands on page 743 of Chapter 36. That is why the Elder did Harry's spell and Voldemort's spell was turned back at him. Harry survived in the end because of 1) the accidental horcrux scar; 2) his mother's protection 3) his knowlege of the Deathly Hallows It's still confusing (I have no idea how this will work for the film and not be) but I hope this helps! __________________ Pay attention to your dreams - God's angels often speak directly to our hearts when we are asleep. Last edited by carola9146; 08-09-2007 at 04:29 PM.