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QueenPhoenix · 10-04-2011, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Trish

Penny consulted her text book again looking for the characteristics of 2 and 8, making note of them on her parchment..

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Penny thought about number 2 first - it contained Harmony, human/human magic .... then about number 8 which contained complex thought and reasoning, Authority and movement..

Then she had a thought - it was probably wrong, but it was worth a shot.. She put her hand in the air..

"Professor, looking at both characteristics... I think maybe the 28 part of the series of numbers suggest mind power effects the curse which hold the basis of the box - One needs to be of strong mind and of course magical, but then they must have thought and reasoning with Authority in order to break the curse on the box!", lowering her hand again...
She knew she was wrong - but she had to try.

"Not exactly..." Fina said, but at least she was trying. Today's topic wasn't the easiest to grasp and she knew that not everyone would figure it out.

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Originally Posted by jesifur

Jesifur raised her hand tentatively, "I think maybe the numbers 2 and 8 tell one that they must be a magic human with self mastery in order to work the spell." She hoped she was on the right track, Arithmancy was hard.

"Well no, but close." At least she picked up on the human part.

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Originally Posted by pinkphoenix

Listening to everyone's answers, Orr bit her lip as she thought about the numbers 2 and 8. Looking at their characteristics, Orr realized that the 2 has to do with relationships, unity, and human magic. While 8 had to do with authority and success. That was easy, she thought to herself-- 28 probably represents wizards or witches because of their relationship with magic and their success in manipulating it. At least that is what made sense to her.

Looking back at her parchment

She saw that the number is the basis and together with 080 which meant that nothing would happen as per the Prof.'s explanation so that meant that...

Orr raised her hand, "I think that 28 indicates that the spell will affect wizarding folk because of their relationship with magic but I don't understand why nothing would happen--does it mean that the spell won't work for them or that the box won't open? I just don't quite understand that part..." She trailed off. Why did she open her mouth? She was clueless about how the numbers worked together.

"Yes and no. The two stands for humans, so this part of the spell is not particular to wizards alone..." However, that didn't mean any random muggle could be put at risk. "Nothing would happen if no magic or physical contact is made with the cursed object. Because therefore nothing is done to provoke the curse that's on the object."

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Originally Posted by Starbreeze

Eino raised an eyebrow. "Oh... okay." He turned to the Professor and considered asking her if he could assist the Hufflepuff boy to the infirmary. Clearly, something was wrong, maybe he had consumed some strange food or maybe all of the numbers were getting to his head. Eino hesitated. He didn't want to interrupt the professor or the class, and the boy was... tolerable. Strange, but tolerable. Eino nodded in response and kept quiet until the professor spoke again, because he really didn't know how to reply to that.

Soooo 2 and 8 together would say something about the spell? He quickly flipped through the pages, trying to find out which characteristics to look for, since there were many. Energy numbers? Life path? Core numbers? Destiny Numbers? Hart's Desire?!?!? He wanted to pull out his hair! He almost raised his hand, but he didn't have anything to say, he didn't have anything to say, so he kept it on top of the table. General Meaning of numbers? He searched for the numbers 2 and 8, and after combing his hair with his hand, he raised it and spoke. "Uh, it means it will unite the material wealth with the collaboration of magic through self-mastery successfully..." He finished rambling and looked up at the professor.

Yeah, he was dropping Arithmancy.

"Not quite..." This was a hard topic in Arithmancy; having to keep track of the LARGE variety of number characteristics and such. But Fina was sure someone would figure it out. Evelyn? Kurumi? Vashti?

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Originally Posted by FireboltAvis88

Alyssa was disappointed that her attempt at answering the question was wrong. "I guess we're back to square one again," Alyssa sighed to herself. She thought about the significance of the characteristics of the numbers 28 and knowing that despite the fact that THIS answer was going to be probably off target as well, she raised her hand and answered.

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"Studying both the characteristics of each number, could it be that the spell affects the behavior of the object. For the spell to take effect, magic needs to work in harmony and unity with the object and the caster whose intent is to keep the box closed. The box will not open for anybody, not even another's spell, unless the original spell caster wants it to?"

As Alyssa sat down, she felt really discouraged about ever excelling innthis subject. "I so suck at this!!" she thought to herself. "I'm so sorry, Professor Hadley. I've let you down,"she silently apologized to her House Mistress.

"Behaviors yes... I'll go with that one, but not the behavior of the object..." Fina smiled at the young Hufflepuff; she was young and the brunette knew at some point or another, the twelve year old would get it. Might not be for another year or two, but she would. This was advanced stuff and the fact that she was trying, meant a lot.

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Originally Posted by FearlessLeader19

"The 2 and 8 tells us the caster must work in harmony with fluid movements of wand movements when casting the spell?'' Jory said frowning at his text book.

"Movements... yes. We'll go with that too." Fina smiled, slightly mysteriously. Though it wasn't quite what she was looking for just yet.

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Originally Posted by Harry174

Simon looked at Eino and was wondering why he was quiet, maybe he was ill or maybe he was just sad about something he was about to ask when suddenly the Professor asked something about 2 and 8 and he had no idea so said the first think that came into his head. "It means that the person who was it will get the best luck ever and win 3,000 Galleons on the Lottery."

"Mister Simpson." Fina said, hearing his idea. "Where do you get anything about winning the lottery from these numbers?" That was an entirely DIFFERENT concept in Arithmancy and one that was foreign to even her.

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Originally Posted by nups21

Ira was getting a bit bored and confused by all the number characteristics! Before today, she hadn't even the idea that some numbers would be the cause of stunning her! Now what had the professor asked? Oh right, about effects of 2 and 8 on the spell. She looked at her notes and thought about it.

"Professor, 2 signifies harmony and relationships and collaboration, while eight represents success and organization. So maybe 2 and 8 in this curse mean that to break it, there needs to be a successful or united collaboration. I mean, it has to be a combined effort, all in harmony with each other."
Ira hoped that she had got her point across. She didn't want to be seen as babbling something.

"Not quite..."

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Originally Posted by ortalismusicoh

Move on? Couldn't Josh already see Ness was focused on the Professor and that she had stopped listening tom. She ignored him and walked back to her desk taking a seat trying to concentrate more. This Arithmancy was just too confusing, not something she really understood well. If only she was capable of reading minds then she'd understand the whole thing or at least she'd look like she understood everything.

All Nessie understood so far was that whatever those numbers were when divided they explained the spell on the box...or something like that. She looked at her text book trying to search for some sort of answer seeing as she obviously couldn't read the professor's mind for an answer.

She raised her hand when she thought she sorta had an answer. "Well the number 2 is showing that you have to use collaboration for the spell and that you need a relationship with magic." She just kept on rambleing she didn't even understand herself what she was saying. "Then the number 8 is that you will need to be authorized to open the box...and I actually have no idea what I'm saying." Ness felt her cheeks go red. She didn't mean to say the last part it sorta blurted out, she felt really embaressed and stupid.

Authorized? What were these kids on about? Did they think you needed permission to work with NUMBERS? Silly students.

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Originally Posted by anolan807

"Now professor now this is just a guess, but I had just read something in my other class and the 28 or the 2 is making me believe that your wand and your words need to be in harmony. So could it maybe be rune magic that is keeping the box locked?" Minerva wasn't sure, but seeing the meaning of the numbers she thought maybe she would try.

"This is not runic magic, but just simple knowledge of number characteristics." Very simple too was this spell on the box.

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Originally Posted by tomewitch

She looked from the box to Professor Hadley. The numbers were the key to the curse. But numbers weren't friendly so it was a very big problem for her. However, she was doing her best to prove that she is trying to understand. "Professor, could it be that it affects human's reasoning ?" That was the best she could think of as she looked at the numbers characteristics. Oh, well.

"Humans... yes.. not so much human reasoning though," but something else about humans this affected.

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Originally Posted by sweetpinkpixie

Somehow, thinking about all the numbers, Kurumi had gotten herself turned upside down and sideways over the spell. No matter, at least she was still somewhat on the right track in thinking about the first two numbers.

Kurumi glanced back down at her notes. 2: Harmony, unity, relationships, collaboration, duality, humans/human magic... 8:Authority, finances, business, success, material wealth, self-mastery, complex thought/reasoning, fluidity... SEE! Humans and human magic! THEY DID NEED A HOUSE ELF TO HELP THEM OPEN THE BOX! She was sure of it.

Anyway, the 080 signified no movement. A light bulb went on in Kurumi's head - hopefully the right sort of light bulb.

The smile on Kurumi's face brightened even more as she looked back up at Professor Hadley and raised her hand. "That it affects living humans and human magic? Whenever someone tried to touch the box, or use another spell on it, they were hit with a stunning spell...literally their movements were stopped because of the spell cast on the box." Did that mean that perhaps...dead humans wouldn't be affected by it? That was kind of a morbid thought...

"Yes! Yes!" Fina said, animatedly. "You're on the right track by mentioning their movements were stopped!"

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSnapesGirl

Oh! She'd gotten it right? Awesome!

So now they had to figure out what the two and the eight said about what the spell affects. Movement seemed obvious since that was a key part in what the eight said about what the spell did. So for the two..."humans/human magic" stood out to her. Up went Vashti's hand again.

"It tells us that the spell affects the movement of humans when they try to use their magic?" So they'd need to find some different way to open the box.

Or more simply put by the sixth year Ravenclaw... "Precisely! The spell affects the movements of humans! The 28 doesn't show the magic part, but a different part of this number shows that..."

"So we have the basis, 28, which says that spell affects human movement. And the core, 080, which says the spell causes target to have no movement." Professor Hadley went over in review, just to catch some of the students up to speed. "The next part of the spell, which is the range says how the spell is activated. Which is to say, what sets off the spell. This number grouping is 527, so what about these numbers sets off the spell?"

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QueenPhoenix Formerly: PhoenixRising Quintaped Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: in my head [GMT-6] Posts: 59,353 Hogwarts RPG Name: Ayden Diggory-Keighley (#07ad01) Hufflepuff Third Year Hogwarts RPG Name: Levi Draguar (#062807) Ravenclaw Fourth Year Hogwarts RPG Name: Kara Walsh (#aa1506) Gryffindor Sixth Year Hogwarts RPG Name: ?? Slytherin Hogwarts RPG Name: Bailey Crawford (#bb04bc) Hufflepuff Seventh Year x12 x8	❄ Chasing Waterfalls & Wonder ❄ \| Mama Badger \| Eva's Soul Sister \| An OG™ \| It's all in the Numbers Quote: Originally Posted by Trish Penny consulted her text book again looking for the characteristics of 2 and 8, making note of them on her parchment.. Text Cut: characteristics 2: Harmony, unity, relationships, collaboration, duality, humans/human magic 8: Authority, finances, business, success, material wealth, self-mastery, complex thought/reasoning, fluidity, movement Penny thought about number 2 first - it contained Harmony, human/human magic .... then about number 8 which contained complex thought and reasoning, Authority and movement.. Then she had a thought - it was probably wrong, but it was worth a shot.. She put her hand in the air.. "Professor, looking at both characteristics... I think maybe the 28 part of the series of numbers suggest mind power effects the curse which hold the basis of the box - One needs to be of strong mind and of course magical, but then they must have thought and reasoning with Authority in order to break the curse on the box!", lowering her hand again... She knew she was wrong - but she had to try. "Not exactly..." Fina said, but at least she was trying. Today's topic wasn't the easiest to grasp and she knew that not everyone would figure it out. Quote: Originally Posted by jesifur Jesifur raised her hand tentatively, "I think maybe the numbers 2 and 8 tell one that they must be a magic human with self mastery in order to work the spell." She hoped she was on the right track, Arithmancy was hard. "Well no, but close." At least she picked up on the human part. Quote: Originally Posted by pinkphoenix Listening to everyone's answers, Orr bit her lip as she thought about the numbers 2 and 8. Looking at their characteristics, Orr realized that the 2 has to do with relationships, unity, and human magic. While 8 had to do with authority and success. That was easy, she thought to herself-- 28 probably represents wizards or witches because of their relationship with magic and their success in manipulating it. At least that is what made sense to her. Looking back at her parchment She saw that the number is the basis and together with 080 which meant that nothing would happen as per the Prof.'s explanation so that meant that... Orr raised her hand, "I think that 28 indicates that the spell will affect wizarding folk because of their relationship with magic but I don't understand why nothing would happen--does it mean that the spell won't work for them or that the box won't open? I just don't quite understand that part..." She trailed off. Why did she open her mouth? She was clueless about how the numbers worked together. "Yes and no. The two stands for humans, so this part of the spell is not particular to wizards alone..." However, that didn't mean any random muggle could be put at risk. "Nothing would happen if no magic or physical contact is made with the cursed object. Because therefore nothing is done to provoke the curse that's on the object." Quote: Originally Posted by Starbreeze Eino raised an eyebrow. "Oh... okay." He turned to the Professor and considered asking her if he could assist the Hufflepuff boy to the infirmary. Clearly, something was wrong, maybe he had consumed some strange food or maybe all of the numbers were getting to his head. Eino hesitated. He didn't want to interrupt the professor or the class, and the boy was... tolerable. Strange, but tolerable. Eino nodded in response and kept quiet until the professor spoke again, because he really didn't know how to reply to that. Soooo 2 and 8 together would say something about the spell? He quickly flipped through the pages, trying to find out which characteristics to look for, since there were many. Energy numbers? Life path? Core numbers? Destiny Numbers? Hart's Desire?!?!? He wanted to pull out his hair! He almost raised his hand, but he didn't have anything to say, he didn't have anything to say, so he kept it on top of the table. General Meaning of numbers? He searched for the numbers 2 and 8, and after combing his hair with his hand, he raised it and spoke. "Uh, it means it will unite the material wealth with the collaboration of magic through self-mastery successfully..." He finished rambling and looked up at the professor. Yeah, he was dropping Arithmancy. "Not quite..." This was a hard topic in Arithmancy; having to keep track of the LARGE variety of number characteristics and such. But Fina was sure someone would figure it out. Evelyn? Kurumi? Vashti? Quote: Originally Posted by FireboltAvis88 Alyssa was disappointed that her attempt at answering the question was wrong. "I guess we're back to square one again," Alyssa sighed to herself. She thought about the significance of the characteristics of the numbers 28 and knowing that despite the fact that THIS answer was going to be probably off target as well, she raised her hand and answered. Text Cut: characteristics 2: Harmony, unity, relationships, collaboration, duality, humans/human magic 8: Authority, finances, business, success, material wealth, self-mastery, complex thought/reasoning, fluidity, movement "Studying both the characteristics of each number, could it be that the spell affects the behavior of the object. For the spell to take effect, magic needs to work in harmony and unity with the object and the caster whose intent is to keep the box closed. The box will not open for anybody, not even another's spell, unless the original spell caster wants it to?" As Alyssa sat down, she felt really discouraged about ever excelling innthis subject. "I so suck at this!!" she thought to herself. "I'm so sorry, Professor Hadley. I've let you down,"she silently apologized to her House Mistress. "Behaviors yes... I'll go with that one, but not the behavior of the object..." Fina smiled at the young Hufflepuff; she was young and the brunette knew at some point or another, the twelve year old would get it. Might not be for another year or two, but she would. This was advanced stuff and the fact that she was trying, meant a lot. Quote: Originally Posted by FearlessLeader19 "The 2 and 8 tells us the caster must work in harmony with fluid movements of wand movements when casting the spell?'' Jory said frowning at his text book. "Movements... yes. We'll go with that too." Fina smiled, slightly mysteriously. Though it wasn't quite what she was looking for just yet. Quote: Originally Posted by Harry174 Simon looked at Eino and was wondering why he was quiet, maybe he was ill or maybe he was just sad about something he was about to ask when suddenly the Professor asked something about 2 and 8 and he had no idea so said the first think that came into his head. "It means that the person who was it will get the best luck ever and win 3,000 Galleons on the Lottery." "Mister Simpson." Fina said, hearing his idea. "Where do you get anything about winning the lottery from these numbers?" That was an entirely DIFFERENT concept in Arithmancy and one that was foreign to even her. Quote: Originally Posted by nups21 Ira was getting a bit bored and confused by all the number characteristics! Before today, she hadn't even the idea that some numbers would be the cause of stunning her! Now what had the professor asked? Oh right, about effects of 2 and 8 on the spell. She looked at her notes and thought about it. "Professor, 2 signifies harmony and relationships and collaboration, while eight represents success and organization. So maybe 2 and 8 in this curse mean that to break it, there needs to be a successful or united collaboration. I mean, it has to be a combined effort, all in harmony with each other." Ira hoped that she had got her point across. She didn't want to be seen as babbling something. "Not quite..." Quote: Originally Posted by ortalismusicoh Move on? Couldn't Josh already see Ness was focused on the Professor and that she had stopped listening tom. She ignored him and walked back to her desk taking a seat trying to concentrate more. This Arithmancy was just too confusing, not something she really understood well. If only she was capable of reading minds then she'd understand the whole thing or at least she'd look like she understood everything. All Nessie understood so far was that whatever those numbers were when divided they explained the spell on the box...or something like that. She looked at her text book trying to search for some sort of answer seeing as she obviously couldn't read the professor's mind for an answer. She raised her hand when she thought she sorta had an answer. "Well the number 2 is showing that you have to use collaboration for the spell and that you need a relationship with magic." She just kept on rambleing she didn't even understand herself what she was saying. "Then the number 8 is that you will need to be authorized to open the box...and I actually have no idea what I'm saying." Ness felt her cheeks go red. She didn't mean to say the last part it sorta blurted out, she felt really embaressed and stupid. Authorized? What were these kids on about? Did they think you needed permission to work with NUMBERS? Silly students. Quote: Originally Posted by anolan807 "Now professor now this is just a guess, but I had just read something in my other class and the 28 or the 2 is making me believe that your wand and your words need to be in harmony. So could it maybe be rune magic that is keeping the box locked?" Minerva wasn't sure, but seeing the meaning of the numbers she thought maybe she would try. "This is not runic magic, but just simple knowledge of number characteristics." Very simple too was this spell on the box. Quote: Originally Posted by tomewitch She looked from the box to Professor Hadley. The numbers were the key to the curse. But numbers weren't friendly so it was a very big problem for her. However, she was doing her best to prove that she is trying to understand. "Professor, could it be that it affects human's reasoning ?" That was the best she could think of as she looked at the numbers characteristics. Oh, well. "Humans... yes.. not so much human reasoning though," but something else about humans this affected. Quote: Originally Posted by sweetpinkpixie Somehow, thinking about all the numbers, Kurumi had gotten herself turned upside down and sideways over the spell. No matter, at least she was still somewhat on the right track in thinking about the first two numbers. Kurumi glanced back down at her notes. 2: Harmony, unity, relationships, collaboration, duality, humans/human magic... 8:Authority, finances, business, success, material wealth, self-mastery, complex thought/reasoning, fluidity... SEE! Humans and human magic! THEY DID NEED A HOUSE ELF TO HELP THEM OPEN THE BOX! She was sure of it. Anyway, the 080 signified no movement. A light bulb went on in Kurumi's head - hopefully the right sort of light bulb. The smile on Kurumi's face brightened even more as she looked back up at Professor Hadley and raised her hand. "That it affects living humans and human magic? Whenever someone tried to touch the box, or use another spell on it, they were hit with a stunning spell...literally their movements were stopped because of the spell cast on the box." Did that mean that perhaps...dead humans wouldn't be affected by it? That was kind of a morbid thought... "Yes! Yes!" Fina said, animatedly. *"You're on the right track by mentioning their movements were stopped!"* Quote: Originally Posted by AlwaysSnapesGirl Oh! She'd gotten it right? Awesome! So now they had to figure out what the two and the eight said about what the spell affects. Movement seemed obvious since that was a key part in what the eight said about what the spell did. So for the two..."humans/human magic" stood out to her. Up went Vashti's hand again. "It tells us that the spell affects the movement of humans when they try to use their magic?" So they'd need to find some different way to open the box. Or more simply put by the sixth year Ravenclaw... "Precisely! The spell affects the movements of humans! The 28 doesn't show the magic part, but a different part of this number shows that..." "So we have the basis, 28, which says that spell affects human movement. And the core, 080, which says the spell causes target to have no movement." Professor Hadley went over in review, just to catch some of the students up to speed. "The next part of the spell, which is the range says how the spell is activated. Which is to say, what sets off the spell. This number grouping is 527, so what about these numbers sets off the spell?" __________________ ___________________You should take your little finger and just point it in the mirror. ________________________________________Baby, maybe you're the problem ✯