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Kaos.Doodles · 09-17-2011, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BanaBatGirl

Watching the professor attentively, Tori raised her hand. "An expression or saying, or an idiom," she quite liked that word, "is just a colloquial or casual way of expressing a bit of wisdom passed down through the ages." She paused a moment to consider how incredibly... Ravenclaw-ish she had just sounded there. Eww.

"So anyway, sayings are dead useful and can be kind of cryptic but cool." She shrugged. "I think they're a great way to diversify one's speech."

Everett wanted to sign but instead he gave a stiff nod to her raised hand. He didn't know what was going to come out of the Bunbury's mouth-OH. It was actually something good. "Correct Miss Bunbury. Idioms are another term, and they do diversify one's speech. As long as the expression is used sparingly"

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Originally Posted by ToxicWings333

Sage listened to her classmate's answers as she carefully wrote out her name on her name card...

Sage Walker
First Year
Gryffindor

Then she thought about the next question the Proffeser had asked, before hesitantly raising her hand...

"Um... a expression is a particular phrase used to express something?"

"Correct! Good description Miss Walker." He nodded, a bit proud that the first years didn't seem too lost.

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Originally Posted by Roselyn

Slytherins...

Taking a deep breath, she let it out slowly, staring at the name plate on her desk as she listened to the Professor. Look at the smaller people? What? Did he mean the goblins? She'd rather not if that was the case. The elves she could. They were small.

Now, what was an expression or saying. Heck, even she couldn't really put that in her own words but she was going to try anyways! First, raise her hand. "It's a type of phrase that a lot people say that has some piece of wisdom or advice in it." Or something like that.

"That's correct. But it doesn't always have to have wisdom or advice in it. Sometimes it could just be someone exclaiming something." Nod nod. Good job otherwise. Everett lowered his tone a bit. "And Miss Flores, please try to control your housemates. It does not make me happy to take so many points from my old house." He loved Slytherin. And these children...so un disciplined.

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Originally Posted by SilverTiger

At least Professor Scabior hadn't entirely discounted her answer. Stella had looked sideways at the Slytherin who had lost points, though. Apparently not everyone had believed the statement that the professor liked taking points away. She probably should have elaborated on her suggestion, though, in case he'd thought she'd only meant the recent tournaments. She was more interested in the first ones, actually, but they'd moved on anyhow.

Raising her hand again, she spoke. "An expression or saying is a phrase or sentence that is commonly heard or known by more than one person. Also, like the head girl said, it tends to be considered as something that gives advice or passes on some sort of wisdom." Technically, even a cliché was an expression, but she wasn't going to add that into her answer. That risked a bit too much for her comfort.

Everett nodded. "Yes! It is commonly heard and usually commonly recognized."

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Originally Posted by HaRoHeGiNeLu

"Ellie." She corrected him. It was just 'Ellie'. And just because he called her answer 'excellent' didn't mean he couldn't be corrected as to her name. No 'miss' nonsense.

An expression? "They're usually easy to remember, too. And something everyone would understand." Little lessons, even, as others had said, but in only a sentence. With nice, friendly words, rather than long, hard words.

"Miss Stone." He repeated strongly. It was an indication that no. He was NOT going to call the girl by her first name. "That is also correct! The are easy enough phrases for people to understand so that they can be used frequently. "

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Originally Posted by MadAlice

Violet had raised her hand, too. "An expression is a particular word or phrase--it's not just a way of communicating something, but doing so in a certain way, usually a particularly good or funny way. And a saying is similar, but I think they tend to be older, expressions that have been around a long time. They're both like idioms."

Had he said that they were around for a long time? He couldn't remember. Either way! "Yes, you are right Blackthorne. They have been around for a while, and sometimes they can be quite funny."

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Originally Posted by Bubbles

This question caused Kennedy to think of all the sayings he's heard through out his life. Mostly from his mom and now from his newfound godfather. He raised his hand and voice what he thought was part of the definition. "A saying is a statement about what often happens in life." That was easy to understand, right?

Hmmm. "Uhh you're getting there. They're not necessarily about something that happens in life but they can be reactions to general things that happen in life." Yes. That was more...fitting.

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Originally Posted by ArianaBlack

Nika grinned rather widely. At this rate Gryffindor could probably catch up to Slytherin before the class ends! She looked at the professor and decided that she actually liked him.

She silently cheered in her head, "Go Professor Scabior go! Take them points away from Slytherin! Go, go, go!" Hehe.

Well it may seem like something Sierra would want, points getting taken away from another house, but Gryffindors need points and fast! They're even losing to hufflepuff and they're a great house and all, but all the years Nika's been at Hogwarts they've been in last. Gryffindor of course came in first, then second to slytherin (which is absolutely not acceptable). Hmph. Gryffindor will come back. They always do.

Right what was he saying again...? Oh yeah sayings? "Well a saying is something you say..." Well her first answer to his first question was a bit blunt so maybe this time she'd elaborate? "To you know show your opinions and stuff?"

"Sort of..but at the same time..no." He didn't really feel like just shutting her down. "You see, usually when you use an expression or a saying, you don't really think about it, therefore you aren't trying to show your opinions. But nice try!"

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Originally Posted by Kimalia

Kimalia raised her hand once again, she had to think about this one, she normally felt comfortable explaining her thoughts with examples."Expressions are more than just a saying, they could be words that are thought to be worth remembering and repeating, typically referencing the past."

"Yes! Except generally you would call them phrases and not words. Just to avoid confusion."

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Originally Posted by Magical Soul

Louisa almost giggled when he mentioned history of house elves... or something like that. Was he serious there, by the way? About knowing the history of house elves? It sounded so.. not convenient to her. No offense to the working lads and ladies.

Moving on. She raised her hand, "Sayings are mostly said in fewer words with bigger meanings." That was her view on that stuff.

Everett blinked. Yes! That was in fact correct in a different..wording! "Absolutely! Expressions do tend to use far less words than the actual meaning behind them but because they are so universal one is able to understand right away."

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Originally Posted by Starbreeze

Muggle history? A MUGGLE!? Eino's jaw dropped. Was this person even qualified to teach History of Magic? Eino's heart was beating so fast it felt like it was going to burst out of his chest. He couldn't believe this. Elizabeth I was one of the most influential magical figures in the muggle world. She was the pioneer of a whole new age of magic! She was one of the first most powerful figures in the muggle world to bring peace to both muggles and magical beings. The professor must have made a mistake. Eino shook his head as he tried to gather his thoughts then raised his hand and answered the question. "It's a saying used to express an emotion." Was that a trick question? He listened around and it didn't seem like it. Easy questions were good, unless they were tricky.

"You alright there Mr. Uronen?" He looked shocked. Or appalled. "And yes, correct. They can always be used as an emotion. A lot of expressions are actually used for pain." Pain was an emotion right? He wouldn't get into that debate.

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSnapesGirl

Vashti positively beamed when her answer was among those the professor had emphasized on the board and called excellent. AND he took points from Slytherin. She liked this professor already.

A definition of expressions and sayings? Hmm... Vashti considered for a moment before raising her hand again. "Certain sayings and expressions can help you describe something or someone. Like..." Oh wait, she couldn't give an example. Hmm... "Like you could describe someone's personality and the way they behave in just a few words with an expression, but if that particular saying didn't exist, you'd have to describe them in another, probably more lengthy way." Hopefully that made sense.

Everett nodded his head. "Yes. In fact some people think that using expressions are sort of the lazy way to do stuff. But it doesn't matter. As long as your point gets across."

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Originally Posted by CreativeAllie18

Adam couldn't help but feel a little proud of himself when the Professor pointed out his name amongst a couple of other students. Go Adam for having a random fascination with the less noticeable people in history...Adam scribbled down in his notes a couple of the other emphasized names that the Professor had highlighted before contemplating the next question.

"I think expressions or sayings can sometimes be useful in teaching morals or lessons to young children. By constantly being exposed to simple expressions or sayings, they're kind of naturally instilled in the child, and those children will remember them later on in life." Adam hoped that explanation was clear enough since the professor didn't really want any specific examples.

"It can be, yes. Although not all expressions are made for children." Some were quite crude.

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Originally Posted by tomewitch

Wizard expressions ? Alright. Beezus hand shot in the air and when it was her time to speak she stood up, "Expressions are conveyed opinions of someone about something which is stated in a short and mystical manner rather than giving a very long explanation about it." That might be it. She was not sure, but maybe.

Nice wording..but again..."Watch out for the word opinions. Some expressions aren't used to convey opinions." But other than that, good!

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Originally Posted by sweetpinkpixie

Kurumi's hand shot up in the air. She had been doing lots of research recently on house elves, trying to figure out what was wrong with them and what would cause them to not meet their own standards. After all, house elves were immensely loyal creatures, so it was odd that they would be behaving in such a fashion. "Excuse me, professor," Kurumi said, knowing that she would be backing up the discussion just a bit. "House elves were first brought to Hogwarts by Helga Hufflepuff. She did so due to the horrible abuse they were receiving from witches and wizards. In bringing them to Hogwarts, Helga Hufflepuff ensured that at least a small number of the house elves would not be living and working in abusive conditions." She paused for a few moments to collect her thoughts. "You could say that this gesture contributed to the house elves fighting back during the Battle of Hogwarts centuries later. Granted, this was probably also connected to them being loyal by nature." And now her hand was going down.

She thought for a moment about how best to answer this one. Defining expression by using express seemed to be a little...redundant? Such airy and complex words were often hard to describe anyway. "I have always thought of an expression or saying as a set phrase that communicates an idea. Sometimes this idea has moral standards and sometimes it is a set of rules that should be followed. Or...sometimes it is just silly." Which she sometimes thought about the Hogwarts' motto.

Everett hadn't expected the cookie girl to answer his question. That was not the point he was trying to make. Was she sure that she was a Gryffindor and not a Ravenclaw. Clearly, she was trying to make him look stupid or upstage him. "Two points from Gryffindor for telling me useless information. I know why house elves are here. I was merely making a point." Which now meant nothing because of her.

"And yes. You are right." Too right. it seemed.

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Originally Posted by hjhm

The teacher was right... Of course. Jonathan listened as the professor began to explain and site helpful examples, and comparison of answers. For the most part, Jonathan knew some of the people he mentioned but not too much in great detail like the ones they have given to him.

Expression? Saying? Hmmm... Jonathan raised his hands. Own words right? He's good at that at least "An expression or a saying is used by people to be able to express what they are deeply feeling." well it does to him. "Also, it's a way of communicating with the listener, for the listener to understand your certain mood." whether it may be sad, happy, angry or crazy.

"Correct! Good job." Expression and express. Yes they shouldn't have been used together in the same sentence but he explained well.

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Originally Posted by May2as

Josephine raised her hand and said "A saying is a phrase you use to say something that is usually common or uncommon, or to teach someone a lesson"

That could work? Hmm. "They can be used to teach someone a lesson but not always." Keep that in mind.

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"If you don't know what an expression is then you should have been paying attention to your classmates answers." He looked around the class. Yeah. Because most of the students understood. "But to be brief, expressions are phrases that are used to express a thought or a feel ing that a person is having...." He waved his hand lazily as he trailed off. He wasn't about to explain any further. Students had answered the question already so clearly they understood.

"Now, what are some examples of wizard expressions. The more creative your example is, the more I'll like you." Yeah. He was being serious.

EDIT: After this we'll take a small break, BUT WILL CONTINUE LATER TONIGHT!

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Kaos.Doodles SS Featured Author Clabbert Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Vaes Dothrak Posts: 19,236 Hogwarts RPG Name: Takeru Asakura Third Year x5 x7	★ BabyQuad ★ PERRY THE PLATYPUS ★ Ern's Fave ★ dangerous with brooms ★ Quote: Originally Posted by BanaBatGirl Watching the professor attentively, Tori raised her hand. "An expression or saying, or an idiom," she quite liked that word, "is just a colloquial or casual way of expressing a bit of wisdom passed down through the ages." She paused a moment to consider how incredibly... Ravenclaw-ish she had just sounded there. Eww. "So anyway, sayings are dead useful and can be kind of cryptic but cool." She shrugged. "I think they're a great way to diversify one's speech." Everett wanted to sign but instead he gave a stiff nod to her raised hand. He didn't know what was going to come out of the Bunbury's mouth-OH. It was actually something good. "Correct Miss Bunbury. Idioms are another term, and they do diversify one's speech. As long as the expression is used sparingly" Quote: Originally Posted by ToxicWings333 Sage listened to her classmate's answers as she carefully wrote out her name on her name card... Sage Walker First Year Gryffindor Then she thought about the next question the Proffeser had asked, before hesitantly raising her hand... "Um... a expression is a particular phrase used to express something?" "Correct! Good description Miss Walker." He nodded, a bit proud that the first years didn't seem too lost. Quote: Originally Posted by Roselyn Slytherins... Taking a deep breath, she let it out slowly, staring at the name plate on her desk as she listened to the Professor. Look at the smaller people? What? Did he mean the goblins? She'd rather not if that was the case. The elves she could. They were small. Now, what was an expression or saying. Heck, even she couldn't really put that in her own words but she was going to try anyways! First, raise her hand. "It's a type of phrase that a lot people say that has some piece of wisdom or advice in it." Or something like that. "That's correct. But it doesn't always have to have wisdom or advice in it. Sometimes it could just be someone exclaiming something." Nod nod. Good job otherwise. Everett lowered his tone a bit. *"And Miss Flores, please* try to control your housemates. It does not make me happy to take so many points from my old house." He loved Slytherin. And these children...so un disciplined. Quote: Originally Posted by SilverTiger At least Professor Scabior hadn't entirely discounted her answer. Stella had looked sideways at the Slytherin who had lost points, though. Apparently not everyone had believed the statement that the professor liked taking points away. She probably should have elaborated on her suggestion, though, in case he'd thought she'd only meant the recent tournaments. She was more interested in the first ones, actually, but they'd moved on anyhow. Raising her hand again, she spoke. "An expression or saying is a phrase or sentence that is commonly heard or known by more than one person. Also, like the head girl said, it tends to be considered as something that gives advice or passes on some sort of wisdom." Technically, even a cliché was an expression, but she wasn't going to add that into her answer. That risked a bit too much for her comfort. Everett nodded. "Yes! It is commonly heard and usually commonly recognized." Quote: Originally Posted by HaRoHeGiNeLu "Ellie." She corrected him. It was just 'Ellie'. And just because he called her answer 'excellent' didn't mean he couldn't be corrected as to her name. No 'miss' nonsense. An expression? "They're usually easy to remember, too. And something everyone would understand." Little lessons, even, as others had said, but in only a sentence. With nice, friendly words, rather than long, hard words. "Miss Stone." He repeated strongly. It was an indication that no. He was NOT going to call the girl by her first name. "That is also correct! The are easy enough phrases for people to understand so that they can be used frequently. " Quote: Originally Posted by MadAlice Violet had raised her hand, too. "An expression is a particular word or phrase--it's not just a way of communicating something, but doing so in a certain way, usually a particularly good or funny way. And a saying is similar, but I think they tend to be older, expressions that have been around a long time. They're both like idioms." Had he said that they were around for a long time? He couldn't remember. Either way! "Yes, you are right Blackthorne. They have been around for a while, and sometimes they can be quite funny." Quote: Originally Posted by Bubbles This question caused Kennedy to think of all the sayings he's heard through out his life. Mostly from his mom and now from his newfound godfather. He raised his hand and voice what he thought was part of the definition. "A saying is a statement about what often happens in life." That was easy to understand, right? Hmmm. "Uhh you're getting there. They're not necessarily about something that happens in life but they can be reactions to general things that happen in life." Yes. That was more...fitting. Quote: Originally Posted by ArianaBlack** Nika grinned rather widely. At this rate Gryffindor could probably catch up to Slytherin before the class ends! She looked at the professor and decided that she actually liked him. She silently cheered in her head, "Go Professor Scabior go! Take them points away from Slytherin! Go, go, go!" Hehe. Well it may seem like something Sierra would want, points getting taken away from another house, but Gryffindors need points and fast! They're even losing to hufflepuff and they're a great house and all, but all the years Nika's been at Hogwarts they've been in last. Gryffindor of course came in first, then second to slytherin (which is absolutely not acceptable). Hmph. Gryffindor will come back. They always do. Right what was he saying again...? Oh yeah sayings? "Well a saying is something you say..." Well her first answer to his first question was a bit blunt so maybe this time she'd elaborate? "To you know show your opinions and stuff?" "Sort of..but at the same time..no." He didn't really feel like just shutting her down. "You see, usually when you use an expression or a saying, you don't really think about it, therefore you aren't trying to show your opinions. But nice try!" Quote: Originally Posted by Kimalia Kimalia raised her hand once again, she had to think about this one, she normally felt comfortable explaining her thoughts with examples."Expressions are more than just a saying, they could be words that are thought to be worth remembering and repeating, typically referencing the past." "Yes! Except generally you would call them phrases and not words. Just to avoid confusion." Quote: Originally Posted by Magical Soul Louisa almost giggled when he mentioned history of house elves... or something like that. Was he serious there, by the way? About knowing the history of house elves? It sounded so.. not convenient to her. No offense to the working lads and ladies. Moving on. She raised her hand, "Sayings are mostly said in fewer words with bigger meanings." That was her view on that stuff. Everett blinked. Yes! That was in fact correct in a different..wording! "Absolutely! Expressions do tend to use far less words than the actual meaning behind them but because they are so universal one is able to understand right away." Quote: Originally Posted by Starbreeze Muggle history? A MUGGLE!? Eino's jaw dropped. Was this person even qualified to teach History of Magic? Eino's heart was beating so fast it felt like it was going to burst out of his chest. He couldn't believe this. Elizabeth I was one of the most influential magical figures in the muggle world. She was the pioneer of a whole new age of magic! She was one of the first most powerful figures in the muggle world to bring peace to both muggles and magical beings. The professor must have made a mistake. Eino shook his head as he tried to gather his thoughts then raised his hand and answered the question. "It's a saying used to express an emotion." Was that a trick question? He listened around and it didn't seem like it. Easy questions were good, unless they were tricky. "You alright there Mr. Uronen?" He looked shocked. Or appalled. "And yes, correct. They can always be used as an emotion. A lot of expressions are actually used for pain." Pain was an emotion right? He wouldn't get into that debate. Quote: Originally Posted by AlwaysSnapesGirl Vashti positively beamed when her answer was among those the professor had emphasized on the board and called excellent. AND he took points from Slytherin. She liked this professor already. A definition of expressions and sayings? Hmm... Vashti considered for a moment before raising her hand again. "Certain sayings and expressions can help you describe something or someone. Like..." Oh wait, she couldn't give an example. Hmm... "Like you could describe someone's personality and the way they behave in just a few words with an expression, but if that particular saying didn't exist, you'd have to describe them in another, probably more lengthy way." Hopefully that made sense. Everett nodded his head. "Yes. In fact some people think that using expressions are sort of the lazy way to do stuff. But it doesn't matter. As long as your point gets across." Quote: Originally Posted by CreativeAllie18 Adam couldn't help but feel a little proud of himself when the Professor pointed out his name amongst a couple of other students. Go Adam for having a random fascination with the less noticeable people in history...Adam scribbled down in his notes a couple of the other emphasized names that the Professor had highlighted before contemplating the next question. "I think expressions or sayings can sometimes be useful in teaching morals or lessons to young children. By constantly being exposed to simple expressions or sayings, they're kind of naturally instilled in the child, and those children will remember them later on in life." Adam hoped that explanation was clear enough since the professor didn't really want any specific examples. "It can be, yes. Although not all expressions are made for children." Some were quite crude. Quote: Originally Posted by tomewitch Wizard expressions ? Alright. Beezus hand shot in the air and when it was her time to speak she stood up, "Expressions are conveyed opinions of someone about something which is stated in a short and mystical manner rather than giving a very long explanation about it." That might be it. She was not sure, but maybe. Nice wording..but again..."Watch out for the word opinions. Some expressions aren't used to convey opinions." But other than that, good! Quote: Originally Posted by sweetpinkpixie Kurumi's hand shot up in the air. She had been doing lots of research recently on house elves, trying to figure out what was wrong with them and what would cause them to not meet their own standards. After all, house elves were immensely loyal creatures, so it was odd that they would be behaving in such a fashion. "Excuse me, professor," Kurumi said, knowing that she would be backing up the discussion just a bit. "House elves were first brought to Hogwarts by Helga Hufflepuff. She did so due to the horrible abuse they were receiving from witches and wizards. In bringing them to Hogwarts, Helga Hufflepuff ensured that at least a small number of the house elves would not be living and working in abusive conditions." She paused for a few moments to collect her thoughts. "You could say that this gesture contributed to the house elves fighting back during the Battle of Hogwarts centuries later. Granted, this was probably also connected to them being loyal by nature." And now her hand was going down. She thought for a moment about how best to answer this one. Defining expression by using express seemed to be a little...redundant? Such airy and complex words were often hard to describe anyway. "I have always thought of an expression or saying as a set phrase that communicates an idea. Sometimes this idea has moral standards and sometimes it is a set of rules that should be followed. Or...sometimes it is just silly." Which she sometimes thought about the Hogwarts' motto. Everett hadn't expected the cookie girl to answer his question. That was not the point he was trying to make. Was she sure that she was a Gryffindor and not a Ravenclaw. Clearly, she was trying to make him look stupid or upstage him. "Two points from Gryffindor for telling me useless information. I know why house elves are here. I was merely making a point." Which now meant nothing because of her. "And yes. You are right." Too right. it seemed. Quote: Originally Posted by hjhm The teacher was right... Of course. Jonathan listened as the professor began to explain and site helpful examples, and comparison of answers. For the most part, Jonathan knew some of the people he mentioned but not too much in great detail like the ones they have given to him. Expression? Saying? Hmmm... Jonathan raised his hands. Own words right? He's good at that at least "An expression or a saying is used by people to be able to express what they are deeply feeling." well it does to him. "Also, it's a way of communicating with the listener, for the listener to understand your certain mood." whether it may be sad, happy, angry or crazy. "Correct! Good job." Expression and express. Yes they shouldn't have been used together in the same sentence but he explained well. Quote: Originally Posted by May2as Josephine raised her hand and said "A saying is a phrase you use to say something that is usually common or uncommon, or to teach someone a lesson" That could work? Hmm. *"They can* be used to teach someone a lesson but not always." Keep that in mind. --------- "If you don't know what an expression is then you should have been paying attention to your classmates answers." He looked around the class. Yeah. Because most of the students understood. "But to be brief, expressions are phrases that are used to express a thought or a feel ing that a person is having...." He waved his hand lazily as he trailed off. He wasn't about to explain any further. Students had answered the question already so clearly they understood. "Now, what are some examples of wizard expressions. The more creative your example is, the more I'll like you." Yeah. He was being serious. EDIT: After this we'll take a small break, BUT WILL CONTINUE LATER TONIGHT!** __________________ {act like you know me, but you never will}__{but there's one thing that I know for sure} {i'll show you} Last edited by Kissing.Doves; 09-17-2011 at 01:02 AM.